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Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

You can look at shop search to search individually each item, and price them manually.

Otherwise, no. It's a gold account perk, it's there for people to want a gold account.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Judi
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thank you for the answer, I appreciate it. I guess i will be signing in once a year to reserve my names and thats it. I used to be a big cash shop spender on here and I probably would have again. But being forced into it this way grates. Even in your inventory you can wave a mouse over the items and get a rough idea. Until it changes I wont be spending another cent here or playing again

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

You are not forced into anything. Until like, 2 years ago, maybe three, you didn't have lowest prices written in shops, you had to either copy/paste from the autopricer page, or use shop search.

I feel like you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Gold Accounts must have perks, otherwise, no one would buy them if they just give the same experience as a normal account. There is a lot I disagree on with staff, but this is not one of these things, to be honest.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
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He-man_769

If you're never coming back then why are you hoarding names?

This board makes me feel all sorts of things I can't say due to targeting rules.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

For people who missed the original post

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Is there any way to see the current prices of items you have in your shop so you can price them please?</p>
<p>I have had gold accounts forever and this is the first time I have been without. I find it hard to believe this site wouldnt allow you to see item prices in your shop since this is where you price them. If thats really the case the site is pretty much useless for me. I dont want more than one page open to price items</p>
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This is pretty much what was said. I didn't notice OP deleted their first post.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Kevin
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Wuf

Remember the shop wizard who wouldn't even tell you what the real lowest price was? Now that was bad.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Remember when the shop wizard was glitched even more, and took frozen accounts into calculation, so we were undercut by users who haven't been on site for months

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Frost
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Unpopular opinion alert!

I'm a lazy fart and I really wouldn't mind it if the lowest prices were displayed at all times like they are when you have a GA.

At this rate, I only price my shop once every... 2-6 months. It's not because I can't buy a GA, I have one in my vault and I have the 3 month GA loyalty totem from months ago. It's because of two reasons:

  1. I can't be assed to manually price. Open 30+ items in shops search, dick around with other tabs, accidentally close my shop tab while I'm closing the shop search tabs I no longer need, and then ragequit. It happens even when I pin the shop tab, I'm just that skilled and coordinated. :|
  2. I don't really need (or want) the GA for anything other than the pricing, manual or autoprice. I'm not as invested in Subeta as I used to be, so I don't care for 80% of the GA perks. Following that, I feel pressured into doing my bonus quests and trying to make the most of the GA without wasting it and feeling like an ingrate twit after.

Pretty sure there are more people who hoard items from questing, vending, restocking (or all three) in their main shop until they feel like buying a GA and dealing with all of the perks you don't really want for a whole week (or more) just for the sake of pricing your shop more easily.

tl;dr - I am lazy and I would like prices displayed while you're pricing your shop. Adding it as a pricy, timed account buff (possibly in the BB, hinthint, make that place interesting) would be cool and beneficial without devaluing GAs. It would also bring something interesting as far as buffs go. That feature's been neglected so badly, it's not even funny.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
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Wuf

here or on neo, cuz I feel like that has happened in both.

let's get rid of GA perks and make a GA medal only give you a gold icon.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Here!

Also what, no, a gold icon is a perk. We cannot have that here. Everyone in blue, bro.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Lirikai
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I'm confused how spending a lot in the cash shop equals a conclusion that gold account perks should be open to everyone, that seems opposite to me. If someone spends or has spent a lot in the cash shop, is it that much harder to budget a bit on a gold medal?

Also, CSC can be bought with sP. Prices are up, yes, but it can be done if the gold perks are that important, and that CSC can be used to buy a gold medal when needed.

Edit: Sure, it absolutely would be convenient for just about everyone, but I don't see the site dis-perking this perk if people buy gold accounts specifically for it. It's earning the site money.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
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Sure, it absolutely would be convenient for just about everyone, but I don&;t see the site dis-perking this perk if people buy gold accounts specifically for it. It&;s earning the site money.

Pretty much this. Every single gold account perk would be convenient for the average user. More vending, more quests and such, but you need to have reasons to keep a GA useful.

This is an excellent point there. Well done, , you get a cookie.

Besides...If you only need to autoprice once in a while, and none of the perks are convenient...this is pretty much what the 1 week gold account medal is for, right?

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Frost
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idk, putting it somewhere as a buyable, limited account buff wouldn't kill GA sales much? Make it a once-a-month thing that only lasts for an hour or two. Make it an sP sink. Make it a time + effort sink (possible Major Drills reward?). Or all of the above. A little taste of what a GA offers without losing the site profit. "Here, you can buy this account buff now and price your shop a little more easily for a super limited time, or you can buy a GA and get ALL of these cool perks that help you price your shop EVEN MORE easily! :D"

Yeah, it would bring up the whole "but XYZ is a GA perk and it should totally be available to regular users! :c" thing. If I remember right, a similar discussion stemmed from the clusterfuck that were extra pet slots. Those too were a big selling point for GA medals and now you don't need a GA to use your pet slots.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Lirikai
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That's an interesting idea, and I really like the creativity of it, but isn't a week long GA also an SP sink in a manner of speaking? Also maybe a little bit easier to manage than a two hour window once a month?

If the site's willing to create extra loopholes for access to this perk outside of a GA, then sure, why not? But shop price is one of the things that I maintain a GA for, so...I don't know. I can see it both ways.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Thing is, a lot of people who had GA just for pet slots stopped buying them. Decrease of profit there. I know this, I stopped buying GAs because, well, I only used it for pet slots. Or to activate a loyalty box.

Removing pet slots from GAs was a good idea, because it steamlines pet slots, and we no longer have to write a novel to explain the difference between temporary and permanent pet slots. I appreciate the idea, and it makes everything concerning pet slots so much simpler.

We don't need less reasons to buy GAs. We need more. And, stripping away exclusive features one by one is not a good idea. Even if it's for a SP sink.

Sometimes, if you want convenience, you have to go and walk the extra mile and get a GA. Otherwise, what are GAs for, if we just make seeing prices in shops a SP sink, and then later, autopricing a SP sink (if that wasn't requested 50 times since i joined....)

Where does it stop?

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Frost
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Not entirely. You don't remove the sP from the system when you buy a GA from user shops (or when you buy CSC from users), you just give it to another user in exchange for the CSC/GA. The sP stays in the system, it just changes hands.

I know, but it didn't change anything about the fact that buying a GA (and thus spending sP or real money on one) was required if you wanted to use those sweet sweet extra pet slots. Subeta sort of twisted your arm into spending sP/cash if you wanted more pets. I realize it's not the same situation, but having a little (user-earned, limited) taste of what a GA offers to users might entice more people into buying them.

Definite no on the autopricer being a regular account thing. :P That one's just too convenient. With this, you still have to manually enter the prices even if you can see the current lowest on your shop inventory page. Plus, messing the price up while entering it is easy. The people that are too lazy to try and plow through a couple dozen pages of items in their shop in an hour or two wouldn't benefit from this idea.

Like I've said, I could activate a GA, but I don't use any of the features other than the displayed price, autopricing and extra quests, so it's a wasted GA overall, even for 1 week.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
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Wuf

you can already get a free GA every year from loyalty boxes and the 1 year member achievement. if you don't use the other aspects of a GA, but you use it for autopricing, that alone is worth it. a GA is a broad spectrum convenience purchase, if you don't use all of them, well not everything applies to everyone.

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displayed price, autopricing and extra quests

those are probably the biggest perks for everyone who gets a GA. not wasted.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Like I&;ve said, I could activate a GA, but I don&;t use any of the features other than the displayed price, autopricing and extra quests, so it&;s a wasted GA overall, even for 1 week.

I activated 1 week GAs to get a new pet, or activate a loyalty box. I proceeded to do nothing else with it. Not even quest(yeah, more mindless clicking. so fun). Maybe I'd autoprice, like once. Maybe.

I already find GAs useless. And it sucks, because I'd like to find them useful, but...they have like 3 cool features. Autopricer/shop prices in shops, more quests and reduced training time.

Aside from that...who buys a GA for the time reduction for random, or more mind reader games?

Yes, it sucks that you have to waste a GA, but what would suck even more would be the site getting less money (it can barely get its objective bar half full most of the time) from GA sales.

If Subeta was actually very profitable, I would be sure, why not, it's not like Subeta is not swimming in money. But, we're talking about a site who can barely make its daily objectives, and yeah. GA needs to be as appealing as they get.

We're wednesday, we had new collections monday, and yet, we're at 32% at 2pm. I'm going to look at how it goes over the next few days, but it seems to be low, for a start of month.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
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displayed price, autopricing and extra quests

those are probably the biggest perks for everyone who gets a GA. not wasted.

True enough. :P I'm still in the mindset of "paid account privileges are superspecial and you should use them to the max".

I went to check the actual GA perks thanks to this topic and we don't have them displayed anywhere on the "Buy a GA" cash shop page. I had to dig in the Help forum for more information. Wow.

The extra wardrobe layers perk was also made obsolete with V3 allowing you to buy layers with sP. So... The only really big selling points of the GAs are actually the displayed price, autopricer and the quests. :/ And some other minor conveniences that may as well not be there at all, like the GA forum, extra items per giftbox and the bonuses to games. Yeah... that kind of shines a whole new light onto this.

Feb 3, 2016 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

https://subeta.net/cashshop.php?act=gold

You have to hover over the icons to see the specifics of the perks, but they're indeed in the cash shop!

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