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Feb 22, 2012 14 years ago
Oh My Shinwa, we thought
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Like many of us cw artists have been moaning about, the cw submissions team will give a bulleted list of what we should fix, and some of the time we're not sure what they're talking about. I see a lot of the same questions being asked, so I think we should put together a general list of common things to troubleshoot.

This would be in no way a substitute for what the staff hands down, nor would it be an official guide to making cws (cuz that's the staff's job... cough) but since making tickets is kind of like a hit or miss with the "Sorry we can't really help you"-s, we should at least band together and get something down, yes?

Plus I see a ton of people pinging for crits with the same questions.

Quote by I D E A S,
a beginning list of troubleshooting bullet points since the tickets aren&;t super helpful to us :&lt;</p>
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Pillow shading may mean that you&;re shading too uniformly from your lineart. [insert example]
It may also mean you don&;t have a definite light source, so a light source that is directly between the viewer and the object. This is not desired. Try fixing your light source coming from the top left corner of the image, as this seems to be the most common placement. Light source tutorials here: [/link/] [/link/]
A lot of the time, I see pillow effect slapped on overlays that have lineart that isn&;t thin enough or tapered enough around ends [insert example]
Quote by OH GOD THE "STICKER EFFECT"
Yes, we get it, your lineart is super dark around the outside and not enough on the interior, and we want to compare to items already on-site that have this. What do we dooo? I might suggest a dark purple or dark brown to put some thinnish (but matching the exterior in width, using eraser to taper freely hanging ends) lines &;round the insides. This is kind of tough to handle and I see it more as a case-by-case issue. Usually, I think the staff is looking for more detail definition in the interior of the overlay. However, watch out from making your details &quot;pillowy&quot;
Another possible reason for getting the sticker effect is not following any contours for shading, ie shading straight, like (see those white glare shade? that&;s characteristic of stickerrss)
Anybody want to add to that?
Quote by SOFTSHADED...? (vs Cell-Shading)
Soft-shaded can mean a lot of different things, but the main point is that it&;s not as cell-shaded as the staff would like. Cell shading has pretty defined shading grades, so if you are not using the &quot;traditional&quot; methods of cell-shade, you need to make sure your pen/brush tool is set to 100% opacity so your whole layer of shading is even and doesn&;t have feathered edges. This is also helpful to do when making erasures on your shading layer. [insert links to several cell shade tutorials]

Awesome related things: accepted and denied examples

Resources: lighting/shade guide 1

Other artists' input and addition to general troubleshooting would be AWESOME

@ raichu @ hoar is this worthy of pinging # cwcritiques ?

Feb 22, 2012 14 years ago
MapleRose
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This is a great idea. I had no idea what they meant by "pillow shading" X.x I thought it's an extension of "softshaded"

I don't know if you've seen this thread yet, but it has some examples of rejected vs accepted images



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Feb 22, 2012 14 years ago
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well, that's what I gather from seeing the posts being labeled "pillowshaded" because some of them are properly cellshaded, but still look very... pillowish.

thanks for the link! There's not too many examples on there yet, but it's pretty good to keep track of these!

Feb 23, 2012 14 years ago
The Doctor
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You're very spot-on and accurate with a lot of these, especially pillow shading; thank you for explaining it more clearly than I ever can with my atrocious English!

I'll also add things about lineart and colour bleeds, which seem to be other major issues. While colour bleeding may refer to literal colouring beyond the lines, it's more technically the phenomenon of the relative colour of an area being different, due to the colour in the area opposite it "bleeding" to give a different relative colour.

Nonetheless, I think this would be a good idea!

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Feb 23, 2012 14 years ago
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Thank you! I've had a professor compliment me on my descriptive skills, but I always feel bashful about asserting myself//speaking out//putting myself out there. \shrugs

I haven't seen so many people post about those issues, but then again I haven't been a close observer of the cw trade for a very long time. Could you write up something, maybes? And possibly add to what I already have in the OP?

Idk, I'd like to get everything together before anything debuts to the larger public.

I'll come back later to add examples, also to ask people if it's okay to use their previous attempts as examples.

Feb 23, 2012 14 years ago
The Doctor
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You're very much welcome; judging from your posts, you really do have that gift for writing. The only thing I could seem to write decently would be formal reports or "scholarly"/academic-toned work (which might actually be a good thing for my major!)

I'm actually working on it; I had a draft up for a while, but we just had a power outage, and I forgot to save everything, of course.

That's a good idea; I really do hope people will give you consent for using their previous attempts/denial messages/custom wearable revision progress as examples! I'll probably edit the "rule" post for CWCritique with a link to the resulting thread as well.

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Feb 26, 2012 14 years ago
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lalalalala separate post.

hmm... so should a separate post be made? actually, you [@ hoar] go ahead and create a new thread once everything has been proofread and edited and revised (yes in that order XD)

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