So, this is my first CW, so I really need as much feedback as possible!

pinging # cwcritique since this is now finished. Rip it apart, people. I have decided to keep all of the designs as-is and see if I can get accepted and, if not, I will add more little personal touches. note to self: adjust color on male tepig/female oshawott

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Interest/Preclaim: Oshawott:

1. Armageddon
2. Hetalia

Snivy:

1. Armageddon
2. MapleRose

Tepig:

1. Armageddon

WOW I love them both the detail is amazing, the thing I see and I am not an artist or anything is that it isnt subeta quality although that is a general statement its saying the color doesnt look like something subeta themselves would release, ALSO can we preclaim slots? I love both

Absolutely, I don't see why not. (: Thank you for your feedback, too! Would you like a ping tomorrow when I make Tepig?

oh my god they're beautiful :o If only i had CSC haha! i'm not sure how hair would work with them, maybe that's something to look at? idk. good luck anyway! :)

yes please

eeeeeeeeee Snivy hoodie!! put me on the interest list please :D

Some critiques/suggestions:

• the shading looks awesome, but the line looks a bit inconsistent, it's a bit thin on the right side
• I like the design, but remember you need to have at least 4 changes from the original to get it approved, and I don't really see many changes.
• I'm not sure if it's intentional that the bottom of the hoodies are slanted and so flat like that, it looks a bit lopsided. You can reference , since it's about the same length, see how it's rounded at the sides?

These have a lot of potential, as the shading is reminiscent of 's work into the Shy Candle Hoodie and Shy Neon Candle Hoodie, which I believe are also Pokemon tribute items. I really hope I will not sound rude with the following feedback, because I really do not intend to be rude when giving critique. I just want to help and make artists release their items without a lot of denials, as I've tried to submit my own art for custom wearables, and found that I kept getting a lot of denials for them.

Possible things staff may consider:

• Shaky or inconsistent lineart. I am not saying that your lineart is shaky or inconsistent in itself, but staff loves to pull this card for items with similar outlines (which have thicker vertices, or have very defined "dynamism" in lineart and outline flow. ;__; It works beautifully in your regular art style, and I love how you keep your distinct "optical flavour" in your items. However, the next possible staff denial will explain what I will mean.

• Lineart is too thin.

If you're using Photoshop and other similar art programs, 2 pixels is a good, solid outline width to take note of, if you're working on the regular HA base (125 x 250.) You can easily adjust this if you are working on a much larger base. If you use SAI, I will recommend 2.3 or 2.6 pixels instead, and 4.55 pixels (pen tool, density 8595, semi-soft - or explore on brush settings which are not too sharp, yet not too soft,) if you're using a base twice as large as the regular HA base. Generally speaking, MOST accepted custom wearables have consistent outline width, but the inside lines can be much thinner than those outside it. Those with varying/coloured lineart are often grandfathered exceptions which have been accepted before a lot of the current custom clothing guidelines have appeared.

• Shading/artwork does not meet Subeta quality in general. (Shading must have between 3~5 layers.)

I love the way you shaded the hoodies, I really do. I am positive that the chance you'll get this is VERY low, if you'll address the previous possible denials I have mentioned. You might like to look at the existing Pokemon-tribute hoodies to have a good starting point. Subeta-style will cater to having a bit of the artist's original style come out, but I will admit that it can tend to be limiting to a certain degree and extent. The Snivy hoodie might go fine, but you might need to revise the shading on the Oshawott hoodie by just a bit.

I wish you the best of luck with these, as they look LOVELY! I may commission you for hoodies someday, should you be open to such an idea! :"D

No, the slant was intentional. I was just trying to make them look more fitted. Now that I look at it it is a bit awkward. Thank you. (: Does the need for changes still stand when they're so obviously distorted into clothing? Since I really only used elements of the Pokemon and not their entire original designs. Added you for Snivy interest.

Not at all. Feedback like your's is what I was hoping for. (: I know these aren't close to ready for submission. Yeah, the lineart is something I definitely need to address. I used a 3px (in photoshop) brush at 100% hardness to line a large version of the HA base but I guess that will need to be 5px thus forth.

Hm.. do you think it would fix it if I made the base color of Oshawott a bit lighter? I have four layers of shading there but maybe they just aren't distinct enough.

Thank you! And sure, I'd love to take a comm from you in the future.

One question to you: does the shape of Oshawott's hood bother you at all? I think I need to round it out a bit more.

I think you still need changes. They might be more lenient about it when it's distorted into clothing, but I have seen someone's Totoro hoodie getting denied because it's too similar to the original. I suppose you could file a ticket and ask to be sure. The changes don't have to be huge, just slight marking changes/ shade of colour changes would be fine (you just have to list them out when you go to submit the item). You can look at some other Pokemon-based clothing to see what's been done.

Umbreon - addition of the moon near the neck, ears point down, no eyes, more rounded ears Raichu - ear shape, whiskers, marking on top of head, no lighter stomach area Snorlax - greener base colour, the V shape on the head is more rounded, stomach area doesn't reach to neck, ears more rounded Banette - eye colour/shape, horns, teeth colour, darker base colour Vaporeon - ear shape different, neck ruff shape different, lighter colour on stomach, more greenish base colour

Some are closer than others. For Snivy, you can do things like changing the colour of the neck bit, removing the stomach lighter area (or change the shape), change the shape of the yellow area around the eyes. Anything that you can list as changes, however small, will help you get it through.

I like them all :) would like slots for each

Can you put me on the interest list for the Oshawott hoodie? I don't like very many of the new Pokemon, but Oshawott is awesome. :3 Also, I thought that Pokemon only went up to 5 generations, not 6... actually I'm pretty sure...

Sure, thanks so much. (: oh wow lol you are a savior lmao. I play competitive pokemon, like... daily and I can't believe I did that. Herp cubed.

~ I'm not an artist but have had clothing commissioned, and what I see that they might get you for is the left breast on the HA of the male (our right), looks like the female version so you may need to flatten that out a bit more on the male.

[edit] for spelling error

The lineart on the outside hoods of the Oshawott and Snivy hoodies looks a bit thin. The lineart on the Item images are also rather thin, especially on the outside.