As someone that vends with her wizard tokens on a daily basis, 250 items/500 tokens as a limit leaves me with 100-200 tokens to spare. It also doesn't really make me enough of a profit in my shop to easily meet my wardrobe and gallery goals. I am not suggesting completely getting rid of it (although that would be amazing!) but maybe raising the limit to 500 items/1000 wiz tokens per day? That way people would ultimately spend their tokens and get a lot more profit from what they vended...the economy would not suffer from a slight raise like that, no matter what people are probably going to say about it in opposition.

TL;DR - Raise the vending limit from 250 items to 500 items ASAP. We as users would totally appreciate it!

(because I know you'd want to put your two cents in)

The unlimited vending on the weekends just seems like a ad idea, especially if people just start hoarding till the weekend.

I don't mind seeing a raise in the daily limit, as long as staff keeps an eye on the prices of items being vended, and makes sure we don't get back to square one with worthless items.

I'm gonna say no to the weekend no limit as much as I'd like to spend 10k all in one day :p. I do think raising it some would be a good idea however, I think 500 sounds fair. :3

- That was someone else's suggestion but I had told them one thing at a time XD I mentioned it in reference to my own suggestion though. Starting off by doubling what we can get now would be great, and like you said - as long as it doesn't put us back into low values on everything it'd work! - thanks! That's my thought as well. 500 items/1k tokens per day is not bad at all. I would not expect for the limit to be completely gone because like klassikal said, that'd reduce the value of things and that's not really what I'm suggesting.

Yea I totally agree, the way I see it the limit should be not so high above what you make for doing all the wizard quests per day. This way people can spend all their quest tokens from that day all at once, but its also enough that people will start to think maybe it wouldn't be wise to spend them all the token shop may stock,BHH,etc. I see it as also high enough that user that have higher numbers are able to dip into their reserves after using all of that days quest tokens.

- Exactly! I wouldn't want it to be any higher than 500items/1k tokens per day - just enough to kinda cover each person's token winnings/proceeds from the Wiz. :)

Unlimited vending, even if it's temporary would still go against the whole reason why vending restrictions were even put into place. Not going to support that, at all.

However, if the daily vending limit is raised, I would like to see the cost of vending to go back to 4 tokens/vend like it used to be.

I actually really like it the way it is now to be honest, I'd rather not see it changed and for things to deflate. I much prefer the way it is now to when we had unlimited vending, and I just find it more worthwhile and enjoyable with the current limit.

- I would have to disagree with you there. I would like it to stay 2 tokens/vend and have it raised to 1000 tokens/500items from the 500 tokens/200 items it's at now. I realize that part of why many may be against this is because it'll make those uber-expensive legendaries/super-rares that come out of the machines more common. It would actually help others become wealthier and not just a small percentage that know how to work the system no matter the vending limit, so to me raising the limit is not a bad thing but raising the cost per click/item is. That would defeat the purpose of raising the limit again. I feel like this low limit keeps the majority of users from really reaching their goals and getting those items they want and lets users that are already insanely wealthy get that much richer from the rising prices of items and such. Raising it as I suggested WITHOUT raising the cost per vending machine click would help people be able to meet said goals and STILL keep prices rising and not ruin the economy.

I just feel like those that wanted this change in the first place may have wanted it so they could make more max profits and hold others down and that it wasn't "just to save the economy" to some. Not you Nathaniel, but others I think.

- I see what you're saying, it is nice - I'll grant you that - but I just personally think 250 items is a bit low a limit at this point.

Fair enough, (: for me personally it's a perfect number but we're all different after all.

250 might be low, but I think 500 is high.

300-350 would be better

I don't support doubling the vending limit. If anything, I think the limit should stay the same and the wiz should just give out less tokens. I think it's a bit silly that a player can spend 10 minutes doing their wiz quests, and then another hour spamming a button to generate hundreds of items every single day, and still have tokens left over.

There's other ways to make millions of sP per day on Subeta without crashing the economy for everyone else, I don't think there's really a need for this.

I actually like the way it is now. I'm an avid vender and vending has been the main source of my income. However, the cap forces me to be active in RSing again which we all slack on.

Am I missing something? The only time I get the potential to get more tokens than I can vend in a day is on Wizard WSQ and I don't think that should be the basis of a suggestion, especially since non-GA users only get 450 tokens a day max on a WSQ Wizard Quest, so even then they use up all their token vending if they want to. And I don't see how upping the limit is going to get you more profit. More items are going to be released daily and drop the value of them. To be honest a raised profit will be gotten from raising it back to 4 tokens like suggested.

Honestly, if the goal of this is to make vending give better profits (and using up Wiz tokens) I think upping the token amount per vend and having like a rotational stock similar to how the MC works would be the best. Maybe keeping a constant stock of items staff don't mind dropping below 100 sP or something, but as long as items restock in main shops Questing should still be doable.

And Honestly (this is kind of a serious question) does anyone actually using vending as their main source of income? Like I think the "rich" people are rich from different methods. [edit] lol Apparently they do! :)

I'm sitting on over 18k tokens, so I wish they would raise the vending limit because I, personally, have nothing to use them on as I rarely catch the Token Shop restocks that happen.

I certainly wouldn't say go back to unlimited because some things that really didn't have much value have seen some rise in price again, which is nice. However, I feel 250 is so, so low. I wouldn't double it, but I'd love 350-400. I love vending, it's what I do. Not even so much for profit. I just like vending and seeing what I get each vend. It was something I'd randomly do while waiting between restocks or during events, waiting for timers. Sucks I can't do that anymore, but it is what it is. Just wish it could be raised a bit.

I have to agree with Nicholas. Any increase in the cap, no matter how small, would result in a flood of new items that need to be used up somehow, and while it might not drive rares down to 100 sP again, there would still be some deflation. I guarantee that users are making just as much or more sP as they were before the vending cap was implemented. You no longer need a shop with 30 pages to make two million a day with one autoprice.

I do say all this as someone who isn't big on vending (I have issues with paying attention long enough), but as a restocker who is making astronomically more money off the handful of items she restocks daily. My shop has three pages in the back end, and I've made four, five, six million in one day off of things I picked up from various shops. I'm sorry that some people have lost unlimited access to what they feel is a fun activity, but I'm not sorry for what that restriction has done to the economy! :P

You could try playing Slots? you don't get something for every single click, but you can make plenty off of the slot items when the Recycle Beast decides to ask for them. Either hoard them and stock up on the points yourself, or sell em off for tons. Plus, slots coins are common enough that you usually make money in the long run. Not an amazing amount, but I've make over 100k just in coins once I'd taken into account what I spent playing.

I wouldn't mind a cap raise, as long as it's not too much, but unlimited on weekends just seems a bad idea as everyone would just hoard until then :/

However, I agree we are still far from being completely rid of massive deflation, so raising the cap is risky. The problem is, while I'm not crazy about vending, the deflation on wizard tokens has been bothering me ._. It has gone from over 3m/1k in user shops to less than 1m/1k right before the last TS restock. We're suddenly back to a situation where people have built giant token stashes and don't have anything to spend it on, which I could see becoming a problem. I'd actually like to see more TS / oracle restocks (or a really expensive way to buy BHH stuff outside BHH, except weapons), but I would be ok with a bit of cap raise or even some WT quest nerfing (which I'm sure would be an impopular idea, lol).

As someone sitting on ~30k tokens, I do wish we had something to spend them on, but I don't think doubling the vending cap is a good idea. A slight raise maybe, but not doubling.

And I'm also confused on how you guys supposedly earn more than you can vend in a day? Even with a GA, 15 quests x 20 tokens each + the 50 bonus at the end only comes out to 350, and 250 vends is 500 tokens?

Don't forget that you can also sell your tokens as another form of profit. Sure, they don't sell for 3m sp/1k tokens but profits are better than sitting tokens. There are still ways to make profit from extra tokens. Users trade items for tokens often, too. Vending and token shop aren't the only options.

I don't even reach the limit of 250 since I don't do that much vending so I don't mind the limit at all. I personally feel like they should increase the price of a vend since tokens are dropping in price. We can't just shove a ton of (suppose to be rare) stuff in the Token Shop every time tokens get to 10k per 20 pionts. :/