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May 6, 2014 11 years ago
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So I just started training my pets and it's becoming a hassle to go through and put each pet into training individually. I wish there was an option where I could select what area I wanted to train each pet in their drop down menu and then just scroll to the bottom and click on a "train all" button, just to gain back some sanity here.

Even when they're finished training it's still a pain in the butt going through every pet individually, and it doesn't make much sense to not have an option to just throw them all in there at once. I mean, I AM paying for this, no?

May 6, 2014 11 years ago
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I'm pretty sure staff has already said that this wouldn't work because of different training times and stuff.

May 6, 2014 11 years ago
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I wonder if there's a way to code something like "Train all pets for 24 hours", in which each pet would be enrolled into however many classes their respective level allows.

Sort of like a group Autotrain enrollment.

May 6, 2014 11 years ago
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Yeah, I think it's been said that the differing training times would cause issues for a Train All option, so I don't think that'll happen.

And a group autotrain would be a total disaster. Autotraining by itself is bad enough, but if you could train 20+ pets for 24 hours with just one click...It'd throw the entire battle system out of whack to have that many pets growing that fast.

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May 8, 2014 11 years ago
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Well i would love is as I train all of my 11 pets but I must agree with Archer - it might cause some problems :(

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May 8, 2014 11 years ago
Hylian
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Aelwyn

I don't really see how this would be difficult to code, just exclude the pets already in training.

May 8, 2014 11 years ago
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Unless your page loads super fast, there's usually enough time to click on the "finish session" button on the training page, for each pet, as long as you move fast. You don't have to let the page load for each pet, then hit back, and repeat unless you really care to know how many points you got from a lesson.

When putting them into training, same thing, click the train button for each pet in each training tier, and on the last one, let the page load to where it says its in session and asks if you want to set an alert. Personally, I set the alert, then go back to the training page and repeat fast-clicking on training.. and it works pretty well for me and all my pets.

I'm not sure if I explained myself clearly, though, sorry

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May 8, 2014 11 years ago
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It'd be good if we had something like quickstock for training. The pets in rows on the left, columns going down for each stat, and check boxes for each for autotraining and alerts. It'd motivate me to train my small pets army a bit more.

May 8, 2014 11 years ago
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No. Does not support.

Each pet has its own personal set of code, corresponding to what's being trained and how much time they have left. Since each bit of code is a little bit different, combining them would be difficult and server draining if not altogether impossible.

And what about users who have trained pets to specific stats? Or what about when a pet is right at a new training time (which affects the amount of EXP in the battle shop thing now) and the only thing to train on that particular pet is Level? Either way, this "umbrella training" would be a function they couldn't use, temporarily or no...

"Quick stock training" (as suggested) would be more functional if there was a way to code it. If anything like this just had to be put in place, this would be my choice.

That said, it is all unnecessary.

There are three ways (that I know of) to make it easier to put multiple pets into training. One is the "click the next pet's button before the page reloads" method which never worked for me, because my internet is too fast. The other two methods I use regularly... If you have a mouse with a roller in the middle, you can click it and it will open the page in a new tab. You don't have to get in a hurry, just keep the main training page open and middle click each button. You also can use CTRL + left click to perform the same task. When you are ready, just go through the tabs and add alerts/send it back the updated main page/whatever. Mind you, it's not "the system did it for me" easy, but the options are still much faster and easier than working with each pet individually.




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May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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I feel like there's some kind of misunderstanding here...

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<p>Each pet has its own personal set of code, corresponding to what&;s being trained and how much time they have left. Since each bit of code is a little bit different, combining them would be difficult and server draining if not altogether impossible.

It'd be the same thing as the shop stock page... You can chose different actions for multiple items.

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And what about users who have trained pets to specific stats?

Then you would still have that option as I suggested that you would individually select which area you wanted to train each pet in. Not that they would all have to train the same things, at the same level, at the same time. So you would still have the option to lvl specific stats.

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Or what about when a pet is right at a new training time (which affects the amount of EXP in the battle shop thing now) and the only thing to train on that particular pet is Level?

Then you would train that pet in lvl and then another on strength, another on whatever, etc. etc. And, yes, even with the coding it could work, otherwise we'd only be able to train one pet at a time or train in one area at a time, which is obviously not the case.

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That said, it is all unnecessary.

Clearly it's not. There is a provided ease of function, as well as decreasing the amount of lag each user might experience by having to load multiple tabs, or continuously go back and forth. What's unnecessary for you may not be for someone else. I don't need insulin, but I can appreciate it's benefit to others.

As for all the chit chat about alternate ways to do it, I'm well aware. I'm not a 99 year old woman on her first computer. I'm a 24 year old college student for god's sake. The point is that I'm proposing an alternative to that.

Funny thing is, I remember when I used to be on here a while ago, before returning, people suggested a "shop search" button on the quest pages and everyone kept saying things like, "just open a new tab and copy/paste", "just highlight and right click to search in a new tab.", etc. etc. I also remember people saying how "unnecessary" it was. And now, it's something I wouldn't ever want to have to quest without. Just because there are other ways to do things doesn't make them the most efficient way to do them. And what couldn't be done years ago is much easier to accomplish now.

I'm just offering up an alternative to the repetitive annoyance that is currently the training page. Besides, I just got into training. I've never been much into it before, and it'd be nice if there was an easier way for newbies to get going. Hell, they can even make it so you can only use that option if your collective pet tier is under a certain point.

May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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Just because I don't support your suggestion doesn't mean I don't understand your perspective. (I didn't realize that was unclear. I apologize if you took offense.) One of the wonderful things about this site is that I can peacefully disagree with you and express my own opinions.

To address some of the points you brought up (under spoiler because it's a long post otherwise):

I would appreciate it if you read it all carefully before responding... Thanks! Useful and necessary are not the same thing... Further (more info in the last paragraph under spoiler) ease of training is, in fact, unnecessary and nothing on this website is comparable to using insulin. My mother is diabetic and is one step away from having to use insulin. My father used insulin for several years until he passed away from lung cancer in 2013. Insulin is a life-saving medicine and people who take it absolutely need it. (Obviously, I personally don't appreciate the comparison.)

I only mentioned the alternative methods for the sake of any user who is unaware of the other options. I did not ping you. There was no assumption on my part as to whether or not you were aware of the alternatives.

I would like to point out that the shop search thing is not entirely comparable... The shop search code was easier to implement, partly because there are less variations of the code on the respective page. At most, the code affects four items and I don't imagine it would be as much of a server drain as the training page, which is undeniably more complex. Also, the quest pages were arguably more annoying to users in general, since there is a larger percentage of users who do quests than there are users who train their pets. Also, as a battler, there are other aspects of the site relating to the battle realm that I much rather see addressed by the programmers. (Multiple weapon sets being at the top of the list. Personally I would find that more useful.)

I do understand that you would like training to be easier. (It is much easier than it used to be, with the alerts and auto-training and battle quests, not that it makes any real difference now because as a new battler you weren't around for the slow, annoying process it was before the changes. A lot of users didn't bother with training their pets back then. I could also point out that we didn't used to have an armory and we had to equip and un-equip our weapons from each pet we wanted to battle with. That alone dissuaded some battlers from having more than one battle pet. Maybe the fact that I was around for these improvements makes me less likely to be annoyed by the training page.) Also, I did mention that I would be okay with the "quick stock" version if the staff implemented it. If they could implement it... There remains the question of whether or not it is even possible, especially when you consider crazy pet people like me with 30+ pets, which are all on that page even though I'm not training them all.

I hope all of this helps you understand my perspective even if you don't agree with it. You are welcome to voice your disagreement, as long as you don't get rude about it, but I may not respond if I don't feel like it will serve any real purpose. I do try not to rehash the same points over and over again.




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May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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Ahem, I don't think was being rude. Since when does pinging someone = rude? They were just using the quote feature which usually includes pinging the user it quoted. Also my grand father and father are diabetics and also use insulin and in no way did I find that comparison offensive at all.

If we just dismissed most of our suggestions and problems as "too difficult to code" then this site would probably not be here. Not supporting something because of coding issues really does not make sense at all.

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Maybe the fact that I was around for these improvements makes me less likely to be annoyed by the training page
Yeah I'm an older user that was around for this as well and it still seems unnecessary to me to click all 20 of my pets to train them.

I am all for a train all quick stock option.

May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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I was afraid that would be misunderstood. I didn't really think that she was being rude; I just don't want it to get to that point. I worry because she and I clearly have differing opinions. Does that make sense? (Clearly not the best wording in my post above but... I wasn't sure how else to put it. Probably shouldn't have mentioned it at all. However I did... So hopefully the backlash won't be too bad. -sighs-)

As for the statement that you quoted, it specifically references me and why I don't find it as necessary as I might have otherwise. I can see that most (all?) of the other posters here are older battlers who are expressing their support, so it's obviously not a shared opinion. That's why I tried to make sure I used words like "I, me, my" in those portions of my post...




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May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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Aelwyn

Yes, I do understand now. You know with text, there is no way to convey emotions at all. :x

May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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I was under the impression that staff said this basically wasn't possible technically. Even if it was, it seems like it would be a pretty low priority. I think coding it would be more trouble than it's worth.

May 9, 2014 11 years ago
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I like the idea of a quickstock-like page for training. I don't know if it'll ever happen, and I'm ok if it doesn't, but it's a neat idea.

Right now, I just use TabSubmit for Firefox (I think you can do this in Chrome without an add-on?) and click through all the training buttons to open each one in a separate tab, add alerts to the pets that need them, then close all tabs. It's a little messy, but it's faster than doing one at a time.


May 12, 2014 11 years ago Official
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Just noticed we have a duplicate thread in Pet suggestions and that board was first. I'm locking this one, but feel free to go post on the other board :)

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