A lot got fixed after our initial "please no Kumos layout on Subeta" shock. In panic we posted on the news comments, here: ">https://subeta.net/forums.php/read/943519/Legacy-Layout-Messed-Up/3/ , and anywhere we sporadically had access to. I thought, it might be helpful and cleaner, to start a new one, with Subeta back up (fingers crossed). Other people will hopefully post their findings and opinions - and they are usually better at wording & explaining than I...

QUICKSTOCK Thank you for reverting back to our circles on shop quick stock!

Please, make the order alphabethical again - how are we supposed to find the items we want somewhere else than the main choice we took in probably 250 items otherwise?!

Keep, Donate, Delete was visually split by a vertical line from the rest (at least I believe it was)

We need the "Stock Items" button at the bottom again, because once done with singling out items from top to bottom, we do not want to have to scroll all the way back up. (remember, we addressed having to scroll a ton on every Kumos page? Most of us don't like ;-) )

I personally do not need - nor like an extra "Confirm Quick Stock" button (as opposed to the "you're about to delete...", which is good because mostly not intentional but a misclick). That just disturbs my flow, costs extra time. Don't know, how others think about it...

Nothing pressing, but still:

Challenger page https://subeta.net/games/battle/challenge.php The writing (challenger stats) is a tad bigger and readable now. Still the challenger pics, their stats (underneath each other again, please) and the battle pet choice are much too small compared to before and the huge "start battle" buttons.

https://subeta.net/pets.php

Alignment of pets is weird now - depends on pet's name length, I guess 1 in a row, 2 or 3 - hodgepodge

• oops, this has been changed again, now they are all one under the other. It used to be 2 in a row

Kind of the same problem on Spend Experience Points

And there still are huge bars and writing all over the place - if you are used to a certain look for many years, it is startling when in game flow to all of a sudden open a page and have things "jump" at you.

Why is there a "close" button on the account search window?

Yeah there used to be/supposed to be a divide between "keep/donate/delete" and the rest in quick stock, can confirm. I rely on it a lot and it throws me off that it isn't there at the moment xD

Kissing still does not work on Legacy. The button in the events does nothing now! Not even a change to say "kissing..."

I can't load my pets page on Legacy. It just times out! I've tried a few times. They do load on Kumos, however, so there's that I guess. I have 73 pets if that's important.

Aaaaaaand the potion lottery hasn't picked a winner in days, I'm assuming since Friday? I toss in a megaticket every day and the number of tickets I have hasn't gone back to "0" in a while!

Since we were unable to access the site for at least 2 days, through no fault of our own, does anyone know if our Bathhouse streaks will be restored?

In one of the updates, Keith posted, that would be taken care of - people probable need to file tickets. And wait a while for response, because it's going to rain a ton of tickets, I fear.

I think/hope, Keith is getting some sleep after this very long bumpy ride and a very busy WE. He'll probably send out an update in a while.

Im having a problem with the Dark Matter Dice game. 2 days ago I went and collected my score and now the game is gone. All I see in there is the creature but no game to play.

I still have the Kumos-ish layout on the entire site, when will this be fixed?

oh hey i was gonna post something along these lines, nice!! some less pressing visual issues i'm still seeing after the rocky past few days on legacy are:

• miscellaneous instances of certain text (and entire pages, with pets.php which was thankfully fixed <3 ) displaying as columns

• sometimes in addition to above, text "spilling out" of containers (like the "Posted by SubetaTeam" in various updates

• random separation of symbols into an additional line/div, such as pets' gender symbols outside of pets.php as well as account type icons (the lil blue/gold dudes)

• stat bars on individual pet profiles are VERY much spilling out of their bars (displaying as like 3x the height of the actual bars) which is, admittedly, very funny to me........ don't flatter me subeta i know my pet isn't THAT powerful teehee

• a LOT of lists/images being weirdly justified to the left!!! this seems to affect most dailies' pages and a bunch of previously-centred images, though shopkeepers seem fine!! the games page is especially easy to notice because now everything's misaligned

• certain menus/tables are messed-up rn; the pet income breakdown has no visible table now for separation and the buttons for pet training are now invisible too (though the text itself is still visible and functionality remains, thankfully)

and this is the most inconsequential of them all probably but the sidebar container is now just kinda chopped-off at the end

this isn't comprehensive at all so there's definitely stuff i'm missing :'D hopefully it's helpful at least orz thank you for working so hard

Pets page layout fixed, thank you!

Well, I guess it's time to leave Subeta after 18 years. I'm not into Kumos, not if it ruins legacy Subeta. So sorry.

I know, exactly, how you feel. A lot of us were shocked, when this hit us on Saturday. Keith explained that this mostly was due to him cleaning up tons of redundant codes and he worked all weekend to clear that, fixed important issues and therefore Subeta is no longer running on good will and power tape, but came out so healthy, that the "fast as can be" move to Kumos is no longer mandatory.

As I said before, MOST of Subetas pages are actually back to "normal" already and you definitely should no longer see a lot of Kumos Style around. It must be caching, if you do. Everything left is being worked on and this thread is meant to point out, what still needs to be looked at.

User shop quickstock needed a fast mending to be available at all but is also being reverted. It's a LOT of work for a single person with a regular job and so far has been happening REALLY fast. But not everything can be cured and rewritten within the wink of an eye.

Give it a few days!

The item use infos are huge, don*t even fit onto the screen.

Quest result page: "Back to xxx Quests" button is also too big, as is the "AND" in the reward list.

                                                            Game Room

Arcade

Burrero Basket Bonanza

Cybill Sledding

Flight Simulator

Gravedigger

Matlal's Jewels

Net Gain

Pirate Panic!

Spectrail

Street Team

The Bug Game

Ziara Raceway

Battle

Battle Coliseum

Battle Quests

Chance

Balloon Popping

Caliph's Tomb

Card Crusade

Coin Machine

Crypts

Dark Matter Dice

Decanter of Indestructibility

Dirty Matty Drinking

Fishing

Ice Fields

Leviathan Harpooning

Mallarchy Pond

Mind Reader

Potion Lottery

Random

Ring Toss

Rock, Paper, Scissors

Ruffie Raffle

Safe Crack

Scratchcards

Slots

Stargazer

Stealth Bomber

Underground Fishing

Collection

Beanbag Collections

Bobblehead Collections

Minion Zoo

Pastry Collections

Plushie Collections

Pumpkin Collections

Sticker Album

Tile Collections

Trading Card Collections

Treasure Maps

Mind

2048

Balloon Sweeper

Blackout

Bluff

Bones

Divine Discs

Item Scramble

Mazes & Mahars

Memory

Mystic Spindles

Pete Says

Reflection

Saheric Slide

Seashell Spotter

Subeku

Subeta Tiles

Thimblerig

Miscellaneous

Item Drive

Item Hunt

I am still getting the games in a vertical layout after the maintenance myself I tried to copy them here to show you but all it will show is the names of the games in the form I am getting them but the images which is vertically (Up and Down) not Horizontally (Across) like they should be will not show up. I got the message today about the bath house streak visits being saved after maintenance but today I tried to go to the bath house it told me I had already visited today but I hadn't and the rift told me the same thing which once again I hadn't until I went today to try to visit there. The quests on the dashboard on the left side are not registering for me as being done but I did them as well as Shinwa (Still not telling me it was completed, which was) But after I did the quests it was showing that the number of quests was done as well as Shinwa on the inside of the quests themselves for example (The Library quest itself 1/15, outside on Dashboard 0/15) but I did get the items and Sp's for finishing the quests. Other than those problems everything else seemed to be working ok for me for the time being.

I agree with you, it's sad. I've been here just over 17 years, and am still debating whether to throw in the towel. I dislike the whole Kumos idea immensely.

Nothing is working. The layout is awful. The current event is a wash out. The frustration is just....not fun :(

I agree on the layout :/ Where are the QoL features that Legacy has? Like the main shop list in the left-hand sidebar or the Special Events/Dailies sidebar on the right side of the main page? What even is the point of getting rid of those? I don't want to HAVE to click through a bunch of drop-down menus or go to the world map just to do things that are literally 1 click away on Legacy.

Also I haven't been able to subscribe ALL MONTH - every attempt has just taken me to a blank page. At this point, I'm wondering if it's even worth it anymore.

These features are missing for you on Subeta now after the downtime? It's still all there for me!?

https://subeta.net/games/battle/stats.php?view=opponent&id=132

battle statistics is mega bloated, too. From header to grid & numbers. If you look at the size of the "Total" font, this is still bigger than was used for the whole grid (I still have an old one open, so can compare) I only have 20 pets, so they can easily fit into screen size on the old layout, while on the new I have to do a constant up and down srolling to see, who has yet to battle whom and count, if all of them are there.

Forum size has also grown again?! https://subeta.net/forums.php/forum/285/

Correct, there is no option for me to put the main shop list in my sidebar - I have the option to put MY shops in the sidebar, but not MAIN shops - and the right-hand widgets are all very much gone. Even after a hard refresh.

(I am also moderately annoyed by the fact that there are TWO links to my profile, in the sidebar and in the header, and the bloody clock is a widget now instead of being in the header where that second profile link is located, but that's neither here nor there)

Can confirm it works now! It didn't do anything the last time I clicked it before I made my post. It doesn't have a popup anymore, but it has the confirming text on the event box itself, so I'm happy not to have to use Kumos for that anymore xD

But I also just hard refreshed and the coloured buttons are now back, so I might start getting the popup again lol. I still definitely have bits of the mixed kumos/legacy layout or just weird layout issues, but that might not be entirely fixed yet anyways, though it does look better than it did. It's things like the site background and when I visit the bathhouse page, the image is shunted to the left almost against the sidebar.

Also, the quote box is HUGE.

i mean it'd be extremely tedious (and kinda impossible for some cases) to link every instance where i'm seeing these issues, so 😭 (like idk how i'm supposed to link the sidebar container getting chopped off at the bottom)

here, though, a pet profile showing off the left-justified minion image, weirdly-div'd AND justified gender + account icons, and bars spilling: https://subeta.net/petinfo.php?petid=6040014 (assuming you're seeing the same as me of course; i have no custom css and i am on firefox)

dailies with left-justified images: https://subeta.net/explore/shengui_guo/bathhouse/pools.php https://subeta.net/explore/shengui_guo/dara.php https://subeta.net/explore/shengui_guo/ujin.php https://subeta.net/explore/job_agency.php

• all of the questgivers, it seems

and https://subeta.net/explore/job_agency.php?view=collect_all has the missing table (and an additional bit of weirdness where bonus-boosted stats would display twice)

def still some things i'm missing but i get the feeling that these are mostly linked to the same root issue

Adding onto what SighFi wrote, this page here also has the top two images shoved to the left side-

https://subeta.net/subetapedia/pet_combos.php