I made a bug report for Lumi, but the image file was too big for the upload site and I don't remember where it even was I was trying to submit it... and, since it didn't interfere with much, except for the tree and the gift swapping (gosh, I sound like Grinch - "these aren't important parts!" - well, being money- and time-poor, they weren't my top priority :D ), what with the lot of "we're working on this and that bug" in Subeta news, I didn't pursue it.

Not sure now is any better - database migrations and all - but I found myself utterly locked out of any celebrations besides the floating flowers, so I'm gonna try again.

Linux. Firefox 75, under protest and by accident, I wanted to stay at 45-ish or so. Visually, it boils down to "Turn off CSS/webpage styling. See how each icon is the size of a barn? That's what I see, which makes further research and screenshooting a bit hard to do." Even zooming out doesn't work for half the icons - and text becomes definitively unreadable.

Here, not a full page in screenshots, but a representative sample, at zoom 80% (full size makes for about 2.7 of the widget buttons in the height of a page): [IMG]https://images2.imgbox.com/e5/a1/9ouz0B0v_o.png[/IMG] The left panel moves about, presumably trying to do what a left-hand "menu" frame was doing in the olden days - to keep the menu (here - widgets) always on-screen. Can't close or "Dismiss" it, due to...

...You see, styleless pages are not quite the "locked out of events" I meant. I like 90-es looking websites, I'm not phased by a little (or a lot) of visual wonkiness! When Melody was in, the stylesheets were similarly bad, but at least I got the prizes and the "Regular" achievement - the basic functionality kinda worked.

"Locked out of events" means that in new VIP, the buttons behave like they aren't attached to a thing. Just like the widget buttons - I see the "clicked" texture-animation of a button, but nothing happens. Nothing in the browser console when I click, either. So, no new strands, no old strands, but no errors to report.

This seems to appear in the console when page loads, though: 23:40:49.125 SyntaxError: invalid identity escape in regular expression flux.min.js:1 23:40:49.125 SyntaxError: invalid regular expression flag s app-CO3mTCgc.js:8:81875 23:40:49.219 ReferenceError: Livewire is not defined vip:3554:13 https://kumos.subeta.net/explore/underground/vip:3554

I wanted to say that at least I can lurk in the forums and bite folks with what I have, but no. All biting moved to Kumos forums and in that neck of woods avatars (and, presumably, "Bite me" buttons) hide below the sidebar events list. Or maybe "Bite me" needs me to be wearing the right skin, or to be signed up at VIP? I'm hazy on how that worked last year. I just know what it's like this year, i.e., no biting for me since I see no bitey buttons.

Wardrobe is OK, funnily enough, despite being the "New system", too - I can change skins just fine and show off the strands I have. Kumos domain, however, dislikes my browser. The usual answer is "just get a new browser, silly, and whoever heard of machines with just 8 gigs of memory?!", but I've heard that hereabouts is not utterly against backwards compatibility ;)

Oh, and the button to make widget bar smaller is actually a one that works. Even narrow, it covers the width of an avatar.

It looks "exactly" the same on Opera and Seamonkey!

I told so at the very beginning of Kumos and Keith acknowledged. I'm so happy, your screenshot is a ton better than mine back then! ">https://subeta.net/forums.php/read/939065/Testing-NPC-Reputation-Quests/7/

The other day it looked the same on Firefox and I was freaking out, that it wasn't accessible on that browser anymore, either, but that was resolved soon and was a programming error. https://subeta.net/forums.php/read/943178

I was kind of happy, thinking, now Keith had experienced it himself, knew the culprit and would/could make Kumos usable for other browsers as well.

But no.

For Lumi, for example, at the very bottom of the page, things were visible and the buttons for choosing year and "collect" worked. Tedious and hard to follow with everything squished to the left side, but usable for doing it once a day.

But now the button for choosing a kissing group does not respond...

It's really vital to make Kumos accessible on other browsers, that work perfectly well for everything BUT Kumos. Otherwise a ton of older users are locked out of/cannot play on Kumos, once Subeta gets shut down.

I'm not happy to have to play on a different browser than my preferred one, it is more tedious, but it works, though much slower.

If you don't mind my asking: Why do you want to use such an old version of Firefox? That one will soon be 6 years old. Browsers do get some bloat, but they also get security updates, so personally I'd prefer updating to a newer version at some point. Though I've seen some operating systems on which a newer browser cannot be installed anymore. But with Linux that should be less of a problem than in Windows? Since Windows version upgrades require certain hardware, but Linux seems to run on a lot more hardware? There's also a portable version for Firefox if you don't want to install anything.