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Jan 4, 2022 4 years ago
The Helper
BlueLeafeon
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Abbigale

The training center and the first few battle quests just aren't FAST enough when the highest level opponents have stats near 5000. ._.;;

Jan 4, 2022 4 years ago
Oh My Shinwa, we thought
Wesker
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Verdugo

The stronger your pet gets, the more battle quests and non battle quest opponents you will be able to beat. All challengers drop a lot of experience in the first 10 wins so if you have a lot of challengers unlocked, you can gain stats by fighting them all. The quickest but also most expensive way to get stats fast is to buy stat boosters. There is no limit on how many you can use per day so you can buy and use as many as you want.

Jan 4, 2022 4 years ago
The Helper
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Abbigale

My tier 4 pet is the strongest pet I have, and even then I can only really beat the first ten battle quests--and that's IF it doesn't select something stupidly strong for the 10th one.

Stat boosters can help, but I'm not sure which items those are... Should probably go looking.

The challengers don't really drop enough experience, in my opinion. 50 experience isn't much when your pet's stats START at 125 minimum to raise. I don't really understand the experience stat on the challengers page, but I never get that much when I beat them... Is that because I'm too strong?

Jan 4, 2022 4 years ago
Oh My Shinwa, we thought
Wesker
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Verdugo

The first 10 is about right for a T4 pet.

There's a list of stat boosters here: https://subeta.net/forums.php/read/903702/

The battle chat has a lot of useful links you can check out for help.

Experience is relative to opponent difficulty. Easy opponents give the least where impossible opponents give the most. You will get the max experience on win 10, then only a small amount for each battle after. However, opponents do drop loot after 10 wins (except for cash shop challengers). Opponents can drop either amulets or tomes, depending on difficulty, that can be used to raise stats. The small amount of experience also adds up. You can beat an easy opponent 50 times past 10 wins and get 500 exp + x number of battle tokens to buy boosters in the battle shop.

Jan 4, 2022 4 years ago
Paramnesia
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Vallenorix

You can also unlock secret challengers to have more to challengers battle. How to get them should be in one of challenger guides sticked or in the first page of battle chat.

If you don't mind spending CSC, auto training can also speed things up. You are more likely to get 2 or 3 points per class than with regular training and it will train while you are asleep or otherwise busy and unable to flip courses.


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Jan 5, 2022 4 years ago
Paramnesia
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Captain Beatd0wn

The way to go faster is to train unevenly, and then you can get through battle quests much faster

I would completely stop training both defense and speed for a while until you hit like 2K HP and 1.5K STR

The earliest BQs heavily reward having more HP, and then around tier 6-7 it starts to reward you for having more STR and more HP, and then once you get to Tier 9 and 10 is when you start being rewarded for having defense. And then when you are capped, speed starts to become useful.

I think an easy ratio to follow would be 4HP for every 2 STR for every 1 Def you train.

Then once your doing all 30 BQs in a day, then you can start to even out your stats a bit more.

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Jan 5, 2022 4 years ago
The Helper
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Abbigale

That actually makes a lot of sense. I've been training all stats perfectly evenly, and that is probably my biggest problem. I'll start dedicating more training into attack and HP, then.

Jan 7, 2022 4 years ago
frederick
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spend experience from challengers and battle quests on health then strength. If you're spending sP and csc, consider working on Abbigale's intelligence and buying/making/winning her good scrolls. Between high health and high intelligence the early game can breeze by.

This is a stupid waste of resources, but this pet is tier 4 and can beat the first 20 battle quests. It relies on being able to equip five end game healing scrolls and being able to take a couple hits. In no way do you need to do this to succeed. It's just an example of how you can push your pet's progress through stat allocation. I think TheSovereign does something similar by building a pet around defense instead of just eating the damage with a high health pool.

Jan 7, 2022 4 years ago
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Abbigale

I have been working on Abbigale's intelligence, but it's a slow progress. Hard to remember what all I've read to her by this point haha. Thank goodness there's a search function on your pet's "Read Books" page.

Gale Force seems like a nice spell, but it seems unobtainable for me at the moment. I can only acquire medium tokens. Abbigale is at the point where the autotraining sessions are only giving her 14 lessons, but the ability to keep going when I go to bed is nice. (And since someone said that there's a higher chance of getting more stat-ups with them, I've been doing them anyway.)

I heard some stat boosters are tier-limited? I keep getting eggs, but the subeta wiki says they're tiers 1-3 only? The topic on the forums doesn't say anything about that, and neither does the item description...

Jan 7, 2022 4 years ago
frederick
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Eggs are the only boosters restricted by tier (I think..). For reading, try making a subetalodge account and making a list Abbigale's books read. You can then search by unread and sort by price to make finding new, cheap books much faster and simpler. TheSovereign has put together a scroll guide that can help you figure out scrolls. Right now something like Lights of Sprites would work well, but it requires that you either beat Eclipse, Pock Saper and Riscors and Will o Wisp 200 times each, or buy the scroll pieces from other players.

Jan 7, 2022 4 years ago
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Abbigale

Quote by frederick
Eggs are the only boosters restricted by tier (I think..).
For reading, try making a subetalodge account and making a list Abbigale&;s books read. You can then search by unread and sort by price to make finding new, cheap books much faster and simpler.
TheSovereign has put together a scroll guide that can help you figure out scrolls. Right now something like Lights of Sprites would work well, but it requires that you either beat Eclipse, Pock Saper and Riscors and Will o Wisp 200 times each, or buy the scroll pieces from other players.

I think I had an account on the old subeta lodge, but I guess I'll be needing to make a new one, since this is under a new address and new owner?

Do their stats keep getting stronger after beating them 10 times? I haven't really checked... EDIT: yes they do. This'll be fun...

Jan 7, 2022 4 years ago
frederick
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They do keep scaling, though I think Eclipse is the only real challenge due to the no healing. Take it in chunks and don't burn yourself out!

Your old account on Subetalodge should still be there- Mine transferred just fine.

Jan 7, 2022 4 years ago
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BlueLeafeon
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Abbigale

Ah, I see my account is still on there, but I don't remember the password and the reset email isn't coming into my box... Oi. Probably that thing where gmail is blocking the email from coming in. Guess I'll do that later. For the time being, time to go beat up some low-level opponents until I get bored.

Feb 2, 2022 4 years ago
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As a returning player, reading this thread was super helpful! I wasn't sure where to spend my EXP and now I have a goal :D Good luck with yours!

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