Please, read this news post if you haven't, to understand the main context of this complaint.

Subeta currently has two "Community Guidelines" in place: 'Don’t Be That Guy' and 'Be Patient'. In theory these guidelines should be understandable enough to be able to have quaint times in Subeta. However, these do not take into account subtle messages, or "passive-aggressiveness".

These community guidelines are seldomly enforced in several interactions with other users, specially when they are being 'passive-aggressive'. The posts made on the news comment section reek of this very same passive-aggressiveness I am talking about. However, if one where to point out WHY someone is acting passive-aggressiveness and overly cruel, they would be the ones penalized instead for 'witch hunting' or 'escalating issues / fanning the fires'.

To remain civil at all times is to remain a victim when others aren't acting in the same way as you are. When you are forced to keep level-headed behavior when other users can outright say stuff like "I would punch somebody in the face already" is not a welcoming environment. When people say 'indirect attacks' or simple are passive-aggressive, without addressing you personally, it just affects your whole view of the community as a whole, as well as the moderators and people who are supposed to enforce this. And I would list the users I believe are doing these actions intentionally just by those posts alone, but I would most likely get into trouble due to breaking Community Guidelines. Aren't the original posters of such posts equally guilty of breaking rules themselves? It seems like the rules currently in place prevent perceived victims of such attacks being able to speak out, while the 'passive-aggressive' people are unpunished.

I implore anyone within power to read this that they consider a change in moderation or rules. Many users hide themselves under the guise of passive-aggressiveness, instead of being honest.

I think it’s the other way around actually. People have to resort to passive aggression, subtlety, and off-site comments when calling out other users’ behavior because it’s the only way to not break the Community Guidelines. I wish we were able to be honest and speak our minds more freely when we think someone is being ridiculous, but this is the best way to help the community remain peaceful.

When you don’t like how someone is treating you, you can always talk about with them about it via comments or sMail, or even block them. One of the risks of making your opinions public is that you aren’t free from the consequences of your speech. People will have reactions to your opinions, some of which you may not like, and that’s just something we all have to accept. To circumvent this, I take time to think about my words before posting so I can get my idea across in a productive way. It’s like debate class; you want to get people on your side, not against you.

As a final note, you can always look for lends on Borrowing & Lending for Achievements!. I am usually a lender there, but haven’t been active on the site much recently due to stuff going on IRL. As a frequent user of that series of threads over the past decade, if you are patient, you will be able to find someone that can lend you for free if you can’t afford something. Everyone there is always helpful.

If you ever feel someone is breaking the community guidelines you can submit a Ticket so a User Administrator can review and step in, if necessary. Keep in mind that there are limited staff in comparison to users, so not everything can be reviewed in real time. People also have different interpretations and tolerances, so if something does make you feel uncomfortable you need to let the right people know.

Another thing to note is that not all staff are UAs, so you don't make assumptions just because they post with a red bar (i.e someone from creative department).

Of course, as just like anywhere else online, you have to be sensible about what you say, how you say it, and where you say it. People have just as much freedom as you to respond with their own opinion.

honestly, it sounds like you're getting your panties in a knot over people in that news post replying to you. if you have a problem with how people interact with you, you can just simply ignore or block them. not everyone has to always play nice or be honest with you because you want them to.

staff cannot force people to be honest in their postings or to not use passive-aggressiveness or sarcasm. that would be limiting and a turn-off for most of the userbase if it suddenly comes out that staff are trying to force people to act a certain way.

I tried my hardest to remain civil and respond to everybody, but apparently others can just say "I want to smack you" when I am just giving my opinion. I do not think I said anything out of place, and even the very same staff member Amber responded to me in a calm and orderly fashion, taking into account everything I said. If I am bringing my complaints to the public now, is simply because I think "ignoring and moving on" will not change any of this. Also, I considered messaging some people, but doing so could be interpreted as "harrasment". Likewise, you never know who is ignoring you first. I haven't found myself in need of using the 'ignore' feature of Subeta ever, and I would rather not have to because we can solve these issues together, if we just were to communicate.

You are indeed right that it goes both ways. Users have to 'hold back' so much that they end up looking like 'fake' people. We are all adults here, and I think that maybe rules should be tweaked to reflect that. I would like to edit my original post to include your particular message, if you don't mind.

I understand what you are saying and you are indeed correct in saying that not every staffer can (or should) be the one giving them warning. It is really the best course of action, tho, to go around and report everybody? When you can instead bring light to the perceived systematic issues and try to fix them in the first place.

i understand that, but because you come at someone in what seems a calm and rational manner to you, doesn't mean they'll do the same in turn, especially if they read your tone differently than you intended. tone is hard to convey accurately over the internet.

also you cannot force people to communicate with you, you cannot force people to act how you think they should act or respond.

blocking and moving on would solve more of your problems than trying to communicate with people who are obviously antagonistic toward you.

The block function is very useful in trying times such as these.

I see what you both mean, but when people are being antagonistic against me, even when I am giving my hardest to be constructive, impartial and 'professional', one just has to ask... Is it because of me? Did I do something wrong? When such questions arise I, personally, want to know why. I want to know what did I do to deserve such scorn. Specially when I believe that I was as civil as I could be. It's something frustrating.

Am I inadequate? Maybe I did say something dumb without thinking? How can I know if they are people just being antagonistic, or if there's something wrong with me. How can I do self-reflection if not for people telling me so?

Honestly, trying to remain civil is hard. If someone blocked me for my personality when I am NOT being like this, I wouldn't bat an eye. But in this situation, well. I don't know if my posts are coming off as impartial and clean anymore tho...

When I saw this thread posted I assumed it was more about the rules in general, but now I can clearly see it is about you.

You might benefit in accepting that some people just don't like you. You aren't entitled to a reason and the same is true in real life. Learn this and move on.

I mean, in a way it is kinda about me, to be honest... But as added on her post: The same is true the other way around.