My pet is 3k away from cap and it is time I decided on a few stats so I do not have to spend a lot on leeches haha. Need a bit of help/opinion cause I am awful at this stuff.

Only one pet so would like to beat bosses and challengers.

I am down to my last stat to decide on - Strength. I have a budget of 20k stats. I am trying to figure out if I wanna go:

11k Health, 9K Strength 10.5k Health, 9.5k Strength 10K Health, 10k Strength

Strength damage per icon as follows: 9000 = 22.59 d/i 9500 = 23.21 d/i 10000 = 23.81 d/i

Based on the stats I can see most people choose between 10 or 9k in strength.

I get that most people like to hit hard with the 10k strength - but I don't want to be on 10k health as I think I need a bit more than 10k as buffer. Plus, say I do 200 icons @ 9500 strength vs 200 icons @ 9000 strength the difference is 120 damage. The difference between 200 icons @ 1000 strength vs 9000 strength is 244. So overall not that much of a difference.

I don't think I want 10K Health, 10k Strength simply because the health buffer and the decreasing gain for the addition 500 stats.

Which leaves me with:

1. 11k Health, 9K Strength
2. 10.5k Health, 9.5k Strength

For those with 9k strength pets do you find this enough? For those with 10k health is it enough?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!!

Honestly the difference is pretty marginal. You gotta remember most weapons have a heal cap at 10k hp too. I have a dumb build and do just fine so honestly it’s whatever you feel like.

Honestly, as long as you pick a HP greater than 10K and a SPD less than 9002 the rest of what you do with your stats really doesn't matter much at this point.

I keep my STR at 7499 and I do enough damage and was 6th damage per battle (known) in the recent jelly war.

22.6 vs 23.8 DPI at ~140 icons average is a difference of about 180 damage per turn out of about 3160 damage total. It's about a 5% increase.

Performance-wise its pretty negligible. Even me having 17.3 DPI I think the only challenger I have been lmited by was pre-nerf chronochrone.

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Right now Talon stats look like this: Health: 9630 / 9630 Strength: 9963 Defense: 9963 Speed: 5425

I am working on getting them to look like this: Health: 10000 / 10000 Strength: 10000 Defense: 10000 Speed: 5000

Just because I like how the numbers look :D

Im a planner so if i dont have a goal it annoys me hahaha yea there are a few weaps than can heal above the cap too. I just want a lil bit extra for buffer.

why do you like hp over 10k? for me - i feel that the benefit of 500 stat points in str is less beneficial than 500 hp. I know you keep your str there at under 7500 for the staff.

Your comments do affirm my thoughts about the 10k/10k split not being for me. im just trying to pick between the following now. 1) 11k Health, 9K Strength 2) 10.5k Health, 9.5k Strength

Yea mind eraser is awesome. I am going to have just one capped pet so I dont want to be too low on speed for future para challengers. Only place where I could sacrifice more stats would be def (Possibly lower by 1k in future if needed) and use those stat points towards str/health. Looking at mind erasers stats makes me feel that 10.5k Health, 9.5k Strength, may be a solid choice for my pet.

nah nice yea my speed and def goals a diff to yours but those numbers are very pretty

Keep in mind that no matter the build, 35K stats is plenty to beat any challenger 10 times

If you're only getting your speed up because of para, note that you'll need at least 8751 with the two challengers we have now. Honestly, out of all, this feels like the biggest waste of stats. You could get 10 wins without. Not that you get anything for those wins, not even bragging rights, the HSTs are hidden.

In your specific example tho, I'd go for more HP over strength. It has more benefits besides healing

[edit] If you take all the pets that have 10 wins or more on para RB, you'll notice that not only none of them can crit para rb, but also that only one can crit para buttwings. Two thirds have speed at 7k or less. If you take the 2 capped pets on Subeta that could crit Para RB, you'll notice that neither has a single win on that opponent.

Because I think it gives you more of a buffer which gives you a better shot at surviving longer. While that is pretty marginal, the other stats are even more marginal.

Where the main benefit of STR is shorter battles, but most challengers are probably only 2-3 clicks shorter and at this level and it doesn't significantly speed you up. If there was more of a HST community chasing the small challengers where you would need 50-60K wins to get to the point where it might be interesting then STR would be very powerful.

Really all of this detailed talk about what your final build would be really only matters if you are going for HSTs

noted thanks and good points, im gunna lower my planned speed and shove it onto my health and str.

haha I am so fickle, I think it is good to plan for HST in case I change my mind later.

I'm probs gunna go

7 Def 7 Speed 11 Health 10 Str

Thanks both. Thoughts?

I’m not saying you can’t , I’m saying getting speed this high for this reason is not a thing.

If it's a choice between strength and health, then I would go with health. You will never have enough strength with the current cap limitation to make battles end quickly when battling the toughest opponents. More health to last longer is always more critical. Your build looks solid. Honestly, unless you do something ridiculous like 25k defense 2.5k strength/2.5k speed/5k health minor changes to builds don't make a difference. There will always be some opponents that are easier than others, but no one you can't beat.

noted thanks!