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Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
Lovely
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Saggitarius should only require you to have a certain amount of sp on hand when you accept a quest. Once you are questing it's pretty frustrating if you buy the items he is looking for and it puts you under the amount you need to have on hand to turn the items in.

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I expect a certain amount of sP to be put into my quests. Sadly, you just can&;t provide that.

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Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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MacLachlan

I know Sarah won't even allow you to access her quests after you achieve a certain amount of sP, I don't know why it was never applied for Saggi.

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Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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I know Sarah won&;t even allow you to access her quests after you achieve a certain amount of sP, I don&;t know why it was never applied for Saggi.
It was, but if you're just above the threshold and you dip under it after buying the items he wants, you can't complete the quest. You just get the same error you would if you weren't already on a quest and visited him without enough sP.

I don't know if there's really a quick fix for this, besides just. letting you complete the quest you're already on. I don't know if Saggi has a price cap on the items he'll ask for, so it may or may not even be possible to set a secondary, higher cap to allow for this. But it shouldn't be impossible to make the sP back from other quests within the time limit either, unless you saved Saggi for last and the sP you made is what put you over the threshold in the first place

Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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I've always thought it was silly that you can get locked out in the middle of a quest. It doesn't make sense to me as a game mechanic, and it seems like it would be a really simple fix.

if(user.sP > min || quest.isActive){ justLetMeFinishMyQuestUghComeOn(); }


Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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It is how rich people do act towards plebians, though.

The reason you can still do Sarah's I thought had to do with new accounts being able to do them anyways.

Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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It is how rich people do act towards plebians, though.

Okay, but what does that have to do with the quest being broken?

I don't know if it's possible to do it this way (I know nothing about programming). But it seems to me that, once you've accepted the quest, he should just check to see if you have the items rather than how much sP you have.

If that's not possible, I guess one way to work around it would be to play some games until you've earned enough sP to get back over the threshold again. Can still see how that would be a hassle though.

Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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you are presuming what you mean to prove is true, before you have proven it. In order for something to be broken, it has to not work as it is intended to work.

Saggitarius' quests are meant to work that way.

Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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Honestly what I've found is that the quests take into account what you have on hand as well as what's in your vault. I've gone in to do his quests with 500k on hand but 30mil in my vault and had no issues, but the one time I emptied my vault to buy something I'd been saving for I ran into this the very next time around.

I do, however, think they are broken in the sense that if you start the quest and have the items you get locked out of him if buying those items sets you below his threshold. My go to has always been quickly running to do a Sarah quest since the threshold is the same, because completing one for her more often than not puts me back above the Saggi threshold and I can go turn that one in but it is still an annoyance for sure. I'm not sure how easy this would be to fix, though, since I'm not a coder, but it's at least worth looking at in case it is an easy fix that's been overlooked or some such.

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Jun 25, 2019 6 years ago
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Yeah, I agree. It's kind of dumb that Saggi sends you on a quest once you're rich enough, but as soon as you spend some of that money to buy quest items for his quest and dip below his sP requirement, he goes all "BEGONE, PEASANT! I care not for your quest items, you are 500 sP short of being wealthy enough to behold my glorious visage."

I'm poor because of you, Saggitarius. You arrogant, snobby, handsome devil. :P At least let me finish the "very important" errand you've sent me on, sheesh.

Jun 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Crotchety

I find this annoying too. However, in my experience the max he tends to ask for is about 70K in user shops. So max amount you can be out is ~140K (and its generally less) and you can make that in less than 30 minutes with other quests and/or games like Caliph's Tomb which are pretty quick.

Frankly, I just make sure I have 1.75M before I start. But I have run into this when I'm not paying attention.

Jun 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Rakumel you are presuming what you mean to prove is true, before you have proven it. In order for something to be broken, it has to not work as it is intended to work.</p>
<p>Saggitarius&; quests are meant to work that way.

That's all fair, but you didn't actually answer my question. =) I'll rephrase it: What does a fictional rich person's attitude have to do with the issue OP brought up? Or, more specific still: Why would a fictional rich person's attitude justify not doing anything about the issue OP brought up?

It could very well be that there's a good reason the can't-finish-quest issue we're all discussing is in place. I just don't think that "because lore" is a good enough reason.

Now, if you believe that staff has other, more urgent bugs to fix and don't need to waste time on this one, or that this isn't a problem with the quest so much as it is poor planning on the users' part, OR that this issue is easy enough to work around that it doesn't need to be fixed - those reasons I can understand and accept. I don't think it's very sympathetic to someone who's temporarily locked out of Saggi's quests because maybe they were in a hurry and did their math wrong, or something like that, BUT I can accept the reasoning.

But leaving this quest as it is because elitism exists in the real world? Sorry, but unless someone can convince me otherwise, I refuse to accept that as a legitimate reason.

Jun 26, 2019 6 years ago
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It is how rich people do act towards plebians, though.

Ah yes, I remember that one time my boss sent me out for coffee and then locked me out of the building before I got back. That was a fun day.


Jun 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Saggi should only be checking this when you're not on a quest, and he certainly has a way to know if your quest is active. I don't know what's so complicated or objectionable about fixing this.

Edit: Let me illustrate Did you finish all your Saggi quests? No Are you currently on a Saggi quest? No Then check if you have more than 1.5m.

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