The discussion in this thread has led to wanting:

1. A flat 50% off the TC slot price for transferring slots.
2. A bonus % off for GA users.
3. A TC slot buying discount for GA users.

There has also been a lot of discussion on the organization of the Single Slot Transfer and (GA) Mass Transfer pages. has made mock-ups of what these pages could look like to be easier to use, based on her own ideas and other user suggestions.

For the Single Slot Transfer Page:

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Ok so this is super quick and on paint, so it is not the greatest. But for an individual transfer so all slots going just one place this is what I was thinking.
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<p>So the bottom text will auto-populate based on the selection. But it will only list pets you can move and how many you can move.

For the Mass Transfer Page:

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<p>So the last two columns will be auto-populated as well as the bottom text. Essentially everything that is TC Change -# has to equal TC Change +#, if not you get an error. But at least now you can see what the new total is. Other UX changes could be like highlighting a number that is too high in the remove section to show the person they pulled more then they could. Or that transfer button doesn&;t show up until the numbers work out. Or only turns blue when it is feasible otherwise is red/grey whatever. Lots of fancy things that could be done potentially.

It does feel like buying another brand new TC slot. I'm glad they added this feature which was asked frequently, but the savings aren't phenomenal unless you move hundreds of TC slots. I think the major reason why it cost that much is so that people don't move all the TC slots away from pets in the pound and then put them back.

Buy: 1 slot x 50k each 5 slots x 45k each = 225k 10 slots x 40k each = 400k 25 slots x 40k each = 1m

Transfer: 1 slot x 40k each 5 slots x 35k each = 175k 10 slots x 30k each = 300k 25 slots x 30k each = 750k

I get where you're coming from. I've bankrupted myself a few times trying to divvy up slots between my pets. It is marginally cheaper though, as pointed out, so if I have a pet with excess slots I do use it from time to time, as opposed to just buying more outright.

But I'm also glad it's not free. It could very easily lead to people adopting pets from the pound just to strip them of their slots. But also the cost I think works as a check - at least for me. It makes me think twice about whether I really want to move the slots or not. Otherwise I could do mind-numbing perfectionist things like spending all day trying to even out my pets' slots perfectly (not saying I don't do this anyway, but at least I have to stop when the money runs out!)

User posted this on the thread I made here

As an sP sink, moving slots is dumb. Please, remove the price, and let us move as many slots as we so desire. There's no advantage about this, and you can make it so that pets are 30 days locked (just like they are when it comes to battling!)

Having it as a SP-sink does serve a purpose. It takes SP out of the economy. Having you double-pay for something is definitely not convenient and it does seem to be a 25% reduction. I would be in favor of reducing the price by another 25%. Therefore transferring slots is half the price of obtaining new ones. But I would not be in favor of them being free. I am also for not letting you move slots until 30 days of owning a pet to prevent people just siphoning slots off other pets. Grab a few pets from the boards that have large TCS and then adopt only to grab the slots.

You're paying for the convenience and ability to mass transfer slots. Don't like it? Then pay full price and just get the slots yourself. I don't see why one should benefit 100% from another's work to add slots or RE's.

The people who pay for these slots are not the same people who control the mass influx of sP in the economy. In fact, I would go as far and to say that the people who usually buy pet treasure slots already pay enough with all the other features that make you sink money. If we probably look at the standing of people who take care of such details like pet slots, they are probably not even among the top 1000 richest users. I think it's a bit unfair to want to charge this people in particular. It's a mean move.

As someone who works on their pets and therefore within your group of people, I don't see why I should be entitled to move TC slots around for free. I pay to have more pet slots, I pay to have custom overlays, I pay to obtain stats. If I want low id pets, specific names, or specific birthdays I tend to pay to change the names around. What makes TC slots different? They are one of the cheapest things to change because it is a set price and there are more than one way to purchase them.

So long as you generate SP outside of selling items from your shop, there needs to be ways to take it out the system. This is one of them and it is not even that much you're right. TC slots could be a hell of lot more and then yeah that would be unfair. But they are max 50k a spot. If I want to have a top pet in whatever means is important to me such as reading for Permanent then yeah I should have to pay for it.

I think having the discount be 50% of the price of a full slot would be a nice compromise. Along with the requirement to own a pet for 28 days to prevent this being abused. But having the TC slots be free to move (with the 28-day requirement) would make for a nice GA perk, especially for pet people, but that's my two cents. :X

fwiw, it's not much of an sP sink if people don't really use it due to the pricing (see also: Pirates vs. Islanders antique shop). The tc slot transfer pages also lowkey make me uncomfortable and antsy with how everything is laid out, but that's a different thing entirely and I have no idea how to begin making them look less messy. :'|

I agree with this. A reduction would be great but as mentioned we don't want it so cheap that people are taking advantage.

You don't see it, but I do: -I already paid for those slots before hand. If I change my mind, I shouldn't be punished for that. -The random event might give a slot to a pet who doesn't needs it. In this case, what would have been an amazing freebie becomes a hassle and stress. You are seeing this as some kind of "rich person perk" only. At least I need tons of pet slots, but I get a bit mad when the random event give them to random pets. The game already has of things that involve money sinks, like the Ether deletion achievement.

It currently does have a discount but maxes out at 25%. I am fine with 50%. Having the wait period is also fine and dandy but I still find it a hard sell on why it should be free just because you waited.

I do agree with you that the TC slots page is messy. Especially if you have a ton of pets. What I think would be a good compromise is if the discount wasn't a sliding scale based on how many slots you move. It is a flat 25k a slot to transfer them around. Then instead of drop downs, just a input of how many slots you want to move from each pet. With a Max button to input whatever the amount is to leave them at the standard 3. The pet on the top of the page is the one receiving. At the bottom of the page it calculates the total number of slots then x that by 25k and it gives you the total cost to move.

If you adopt a pet those slots attached weren't yours. If there were a way to designate that pets you created and still hold had free TC slots transfers fine. But to retroactively be like well I adopted a pet on such and such date and it already had 35 slots, then I paid for 125 over the years. Now I don't want that pet to have a TC so I want to move 152 of them leaving the 3 original ones for free. You moved slots you never paid for anyways. Same thing with the REs ones. It is a random nice perk. If it hits a pet you didn't like well then at least you only pay the fee for transferring it instead of having paid for that slot and transferring it. It has nothing to do with a "rich person perk" which I honestly don't understand what that even means. They were paid for to be applied to a specific pet. Now I am paying for the ability to remove it and transfer it to another pet. It used to be where we could not move them at all and had to rebuy them all. This was the compromise. I am agreeing it should be a little cheaper. I am just not agreeing it should be free.

I think GAs could def use more pet-related perks (not everyone trains their critters!), so that's why I brought it up as something that could potentially get pet people to spend CSC on a gold account. If the TC transfer isn't going to be free, then another XYZ% discount on it for GA users could possibly tempt pet people into buying GAs (the site does need more real $$$ to stay afloat).

TC slots don't exactly contribute to the economy in the same way as items do; you can't sell your TC slots back for some quick sP, afaik, and you are not allowed to sell pets. Once you buy TC slots, that's it. You can't get that sP back.

I'm fine with either the sliding price scaling or a firm price tbh. I have no stance on those as of yet (and I'm a little bit too tired to weight them in detail now), but I do want to figure out a way to streamline those pages. x( It's just so uncomfortable to use!

100% with you on GA perks for pet people, more incentive to spend CSC. Those are just separate from this board but I could throw some down with you at another time. So you are saying for GA users an additional discount on TC slots. In terms of TC slots and SP yeah the whole point is they are an SP sink. You can't sell them back, but now we have the option to transfer just still a price attached. It is a very minimal minor SP sink but we need sp sinks. We can further reduce the sinking power of it with transfers but still should have to pay to move them around.

Well for the idea I had in mind which when I get on a laptop to make a quick mock up for you, a fixed price is just easier than the current sliding scale.

There is a current discount but it doesn't feel like much. It kicks in more so for pets with larger TCs to move from. And to do 25 at a time is annoying too. Fixed at 50% off regardless how many you move just makes math easier and feels better.

Yes like that only then prettier and with the cost at the bottom. Now I am gonna mess with it and see if it calculates based on the sliding scale

Paying for slots makes more sense now with the putting a block on transferring slots from new adopts, having a way to pull sp out of the economy, and -- sigh, I guess paying for the feature (sarcastically begrudging). BUT I fully agree that a set 50% off would be a good compromise.

And a further discount for GA users would be nice too~ I also have been wanting some more GA perks for pet people, but I have less than no idea what those would be?? So let me know wherever this future board will be~!

As for the actual transferring, the bulk transfer page for GAs that mentioned is the only one I've used. I think it could use a little +/- at the bottom next to your total slots so you can tell how many you need to move still. Other than that, maybe a little sprucing up, but I think it's fine really.

I still haven't made a mock up because I ended up with a migraine last night that is continuing. But the mass transfer page is still like not so user friendly. I will eventually make it. But I was thinking select the pet you want to get the slots. So picture of that pet current number of slots + ___ (populates the number you selected below from others) Then list like they currently have but take out the minimum stuff. Literally just be Max # you can move from that pet. If you can't move anything then that pet shouldn't be listed. Little buttons or just a Max button. And then at the bottom the cost. "To transfer ___ slots to (pet name) will cost _______ SP" and a transfer button

Not a problem at all~ I hope your migraine goes away swiftly! ❤

I kinda like being able to reorganize all of them at once, but I will wait to see your eventual mock-up before I say anymore. (It would probably just lead to more confusion, lol.)

Ok so this is super quick and on paint, so it is not the greatest. But for an individual transfer so all slots going just one place this is what I was thinking. In your case, if I am understanding correctly, I have another thing in mind but I don't have the time to do it right now.

So the bottom text will auto-populate based on the selection. But it will only list pets you can move and how many you can move. The current page I understand what it is telling me about the minimums and such but it's not so user friendly if that makes sense?

EDIT: hahaha I totally have a migraine I can't math. That does not equal 69 slots. I will fix it again some other time.

That looks so much nicer than the current individual transfer page~ Super interested in what you have in mind for the mass transfer page!

Lol, I didn't even check the math, so it doesn't matter much. All the numbers are there so we get the point. :)