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Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
Jovi
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It would be really really really convenient if we had some form of user tagging on Subeta, as people name change a lot and I basically forget who people on my friends list/forum groups even are. What I would like is basically how Discord does it. A lot of people put their previous usernames on their profile, but a lot of people don't, and it gets really confusing.

  1. It increases user accountability (you can't just be a jerk and name change and be someone new)
  2. Less work on the user's end keeping track of everyone.

Ideally, we would get an editable field in the hover box for each user that is only visible to your own eyes.

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Unless my memory is lying to me, the site had a thing once upon a time where your previous username was automatically listed on your... profile, I think?

Butyeah. 👍 I can see being able to leave notes for yourself for your own friends coming in handy. Especially for huge groups, commissions, etc.

Possibly automatically list your friends' former usernames only on your friends list page? People don't always make a topic after they rename.

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
The Royal
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some people rename to escape associations though, so i see it being slightly problematic in that sense, not allowing users to have 'clean slates' some people dont want to be tracked, ive changed usernames to escape some.... bad users back in the day so i gotta say, i dont support this. its oddly invasive and, imo, unnecessary. you could just simply ask a person what their previous un was if its that much of an issue

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Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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This is an idea in the back of my mind for ages now. It's be lovely to have a way to make notes about users to keep track of birthdays, old usernames, gifts, past interactions etc that are associated directly with their accounts. It only needs to be 100-150 characters or so. In my mind, the trophies section on the hover would be removed (we can include that on profiles, it doesn't do much repeating it on the hover) and be replaced with an editable text box (although I'm not sure how possible that would be coding-wise/how the hovers would work with that type of editing).



Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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As an option people can enable for themselves, to show their previous names? Sure, why not. As something forced on all users? Absolutely not. Feels very much like a breach of privacy to me as renaming can often be for more reasons than simple vanity.

I'm also against the idea of being able to write "notes" on users, that seems really creepy to me. The last thing we want is to start facilitating stalker-ish behaviours. Again, if it's something that can be willingly enabled by a user, and not something that's on by default/enforced for all users? Sure. But otherwise, it's a no from me.

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Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Quote by Dice
This is an idea in the back of my mind for ages now. It&;s be lovely to have a way to make notes about users to keep track of birthdays, old usernames, gifts, past interactions etc that are associated directly with their accounts. It only needs to be 100-150 characters or so. In my mind, the trophies section on the hover would be removed (we can include that on profiles, it doesn&;t do much repeating it on the hover) and be replaced with an editable text box (although I&;m not sure how possible that would be coding-wise/how the hovers would work with that type of editing).

if this is implemented (and tbh i rly hope it doesnt) i think the user being tagged/noted should be aware of whos doing it because this is such a drama instigator it makes me uncomfortable that people would keep tabs on other users, and have it unmoderated. like people could write vile things just because they dont like said user and the user tagged would have no idea

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Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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i'm with and on this one q v q

if someone wants people to know their previous un's, they will make them public. if someone doesn't then i don't think it's fair to make it publicly accessible

besides you can link people with their user id anyway so keeping track of people (say, for crediting art for instance) isn't all that hard imo

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Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
Jovi
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I understand that some people don't necessarily want to be found, or don't want their previous UNs to be linked to their current ones, which is why I prefer just a self written note system, not an automatic addition of previous UNs to the hover or something.

Mostly, I think that this is basically something that we can already accomplish with the current notes widget (I could record userIDs and what my interaction with the person was), so site integration would just simplify the process, not facilitate anything thats not already possible.

Anyways, its just a thought for user convenience, I suspect it would be a big hassle to implement and our hovers are pretty crowded already, so theres that thought P:

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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There's a notes feature in the gift lists page where you could do this as a slightly more out of the way but still onsite option.

But yeah, given that we have the userid sCode now to help keep track of people and that this is entirely possible to do on your own with or without that....I don't think it's that big of a deal? I definitely don't think anyone needs to be notified of a quick note someone makes about them, even if they want to keep that information onsite (somewhere private on their own account, like the notepad widget or a gift list). I don't know that I like the idea of cluttering up the username hover with it, but I'm not against it per se

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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No Support.

No matter what your username is, your userid stays the same. If someone knows you well enough to track you for site-purposes say you did art for them or they for you, credits for that art (or writing or coding etc.) should be linked by userid anyways. If someone doesn't tell you their new username and you didn't need to know, then it's nothing they particularly wanted you to know. Maybe just maybe you should leave them alone.

Don't they stay in your Friends if they change their username? I don't remember.

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Quote by Solsticesprite
Don&;t they stay in your Friends if they change their username? I don&;t remember.
They do, but that's not helpful if you can't remember who they were previously. Not every friend is a super-close-talk-every-day friend that you'd definitely notice if they name changed

And for what it's worth, just throwing it out there for perspective that I name changed recently and directly notified exactly no one about it (granted, I switched back to my previous UN so it's not super drastic but I had the in-between one for over a year, so). It'd probably be doing me a favor if someone else were keeping track on their own of what my username was supposed to be since I didn't let them know

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Quote by Solsticesprite
If someone knows you well enough to track you for site-purposes say you did art for them or they for you, credits for that art (or writing or coding etc.) should be linked by userid anyways.

That's just it...they're not usually linked by userid, unless there's a code for it nobody told me about. I had to file a ticket to track someone's new username down so I could credit an overlay to them. And I wouldn't say you know someone well enough when you just have one thing drawn/written/coded by a person.

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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I agree with those saying privacy trumps making it easier for other users to track you. If someone really wants to make the effort to be stalkerish they can do that with userIDs and stuff not designed to do that onsite (gift list, notepad, etc).

yes they do, I've recently had a couple of friends change names and it confused me because I was wondering who these strangers were on my fav friends list.

[edit] The code exists: [userid=INSETNUMBER]

There are several ways to find their userID and we should be using that when coding profiles.

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
Solsticesprite
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thank you!

Maybe it should be part of the whole selling works for hire Rule of Subeta that you should link by UserID where credit is due?

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Sucre

[userid=] Shows up like [userid=609816]

But the code is relatively new

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
Prussia
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Hondashi

ooh thank you, that's what happens when you disappear for 5 years.

it probably should be the rule, but I don't know how they'd enforce it tbh.

Excuse me while I go edit all of my credits now. <3

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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I don't think this would make people any more stalkerish than they already are, or enable the behavior you don't want any more than the notepad widget does. It's not hard to keep track of a user via user ID or the combination of pet ID and adoption dates. And without much trouble you can always keep a doc or text file if you were bent on keeping track of various people for any number of reasons- not all of them creepy or troublesome. If the tagging is only visible to the person making the notes I'm not even sure what the issue is since it can't turn out like writing on a bathroom stall where everyone can see what was written.

But I guess I'm just indifferent to the idea? It seems most handy for your friends list. Friending is mutual, so both parties have already agreed to things like being able to see activity feeds.

Come to think of it, I'm a little surprised we don't view user profiles by ID already. We can view pets both by name and ID.

Apr 26, 2019 6 years ago
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Just because people can already be creepy and stalkerish and invasive of privacy is not, in my opinion, a valid reason to make it easier for them to do it. If it's really that important for somebody to keep track of a user's ID then the tools are, as you say, already available. But by making this sort of functionality built into the site itself, that's basically just validation for all the people who do these things out of malice. I've seen first-hand how much drama can spark from stuff even more benign than this, and the last thing we need is more reasons to be suspicious of eachother.

And honestly, if you notice a name on your friends list who you don't immediately recognise, there is a very simple solution: Ask them. If they're on your friends list then they're most likely not going to be opposed to you dropping them a line to say "Hey, what was your username before? We haven't spoken in a while." And if the person in question is somebody you speak to often enough, you probably don't even need to ask.

The whole "notes" system that's been suggested is another nest of vipers on its own. Just because it's "private" to the user making the notes doesn't make it any less creepy (I'd argue it makes it more creepy, in fact) and while it certainly has its positive applications, like keeping track of artists and stuff, I feel like these are not worth the potential for abuse. We don't need a way to facilitate grudges or stalking.

I understand the motive behind this suggestion, but it's simply too easy to turn into something nasty. That's my perspective.

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May 5, 2019 6 years ago
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I'm fine with it. I have people on my friends list who I have no idea who they are because I have not been around as much lately. It'd be real handy if I could just type a quick note to remind myself after another hiatus who anyone is. I could do a google doc, or like said, the notepad widget. But this would be more convenient and simpler.

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