So first off excuse me for my ignorance, I've been on a three-year hiatus so I'm relearning some things...I was wanting to get into making some CWs but got a tad confused about the batches and unlimited amounts. What is the difference between selecting unlimited vs batches of ten? Is there a price difference? I understand that if you choose 10 that you get 10 added to your account which you can sell, but what happens if you want 10 more? Do you pay the same amount again (ie you pay 5000CSC to make a dress and receive 10, and to get 10 more do you pay 5000CSC again?) What happens if you choose unlimited?

Also could someone enlighten me to what CI means? I've seen it around the forums but can't figure it out. XD Thanks all and if there's a big fat thread somewhere that answers all these questions please forgive my inability to find it and direct me there!

When you do batches yes you pay to create each batch. I'm pretty sure batches are five items now? In any case, you do have to pay or syndicate the cost of each batch. Most users use batches to limit the number of their item on the site to increase it's desireability as the buyer knows few other people will be able to get a copy.

Being unlimited didn't used to exist. Unlimited means you create the item and it goes directly to your CW shop and as many items get created as users are willing to buy from you.

1 batch = 5 items = 2,500csc (for a dress, smaller items costs less) You have to pay 2,500csc for each five items. Unlimited means you can get as many copies as you want, but if you limit it to 20 items (4 batches), you can't make more than 20. You can also submit directly to cash shop, it's cheaper, you get a copy and it will be unlimited in your Cash Shop CW Shop.

also CI stands for custom item! The CI of this item is a movie reel:

Alright, so first of all, the CI is the item image for a CW (I think it stands for Custom Image?).

The batch limit you select on the upload page is how many total copies you can ever release of a CW. So if you select 10, those are the only 10 you can get. Unlimited means there's no limit on the number of items you can buy. If you limit the item, you have to go by multiples of 10 even though the batches currently go by 5. But yes, you pay that same 2500 CSC (or less, depending on what category of item you're submitting) for each batch. Or, on the second page, you can fill in usernames of other people who have claimed slots for your item, and they'll get an event to go pay for their part of it (so like wigs are generally slotted at 700 CSC each now, maybe occasionally still 600, but whatever price you go with, you'd fill in the usernames and your price, and you'll owe whatever's left after those people have paid, or you'll get the leftovers as profit).

If you commission an artist to draw your item, they generally will also get a free copy of the item as part of that, so you may have to split up your copy and the artist copies between batches to get them paid for unless you want to pay part of it yourself. (For example, if I sell a wig at 700 CSC and fill two batches of 5, I can put the artist's username in at 0 CSC in the first batch and my username in at 0 CSC in the second, and I'd get 300 CSC profit from the each batch).

There's a separate option from unlimited which is direct-to-Cash-Shop. THAT is where an item goes directly into your CW shop. It's cheaper, and you only get one copy from submitting, but the rest will go in your shop and you can set a limit on the number of copies and change the price from there, but the item will be submitted as unlimited by default. You can only change how many copies are showing in your shop, or you can retire the item and never sell more.

Thank you all so much for the information! So if I want to start my own CW shop for people to buy from, I would front the 2500 CSC myself and earn it back by getting sales from my shop (I'm assuming if I choose this method I can advertise my CW shop on the appropriate forums?), and then if I choose it in a batch of 5 I just need to get 4 other people to purchase slots and help pay the cost of submission? And then if I wanted to release another batch (assuming I didn't put a limit on them), I would get 5 more people to purchase slots, correct?

Yup, thats it! If you chose the "direct to cash shop" option you will have to pay everything by yourself, but every time someone purchases the item you get the profits. With batches/slotting you can find other 4 people to purchase the slots, then they all pay and the item is submitted. For selling you go to the Custom Clothing forum, but if the item is on-site already you must use the r200 Advertising forum.

Oh thank you so much for linking me to the r200 advertising forum, that's just what I need! :D Thank you for all the info, just one teensy last question since it just occurred to me... when you do DTS and someone purchases a dress for say 600CSC, do you get the full amount to pocket or only make 100CSC profit? I saw something somewhere about how it would take out 500CSC but that could have been something else.

No, you only get the 100csc profit, just like if you were submitting it via batches

Just to clarify... unlimited has ALWAYS existed. Items ALL were unlimited when submitted at first, there was no way to officially cap items, we relied on the honor system which is why now we have the capability to strictly limit it because certain people would say "10 copies only" and then would change 1k per copy... and a month later they would release another 10 copies.... That is why the rules are so strict now, because some people took advantage of others before it was officially seen as scamming.

Also you CAN submit at item as a batch item (not direct to shop) and STILL have it unlimited. That is completely allowed as long as you say you submitted as unlimited when you release it, and don't lie about how you submitted it.

Thank you for your clarification. I think the current Rules are very generous and do not mean to imply I don't think that they are and it was necessary for you to spell out how it works. This history is funny because I remember telling at a Subeta meetup way back when those were still happening that he was going to be running a fashion site and he didn't like this idea. :)

Unlimited admits of two meanings the way it is practiced as part of Subeta's CW Rules, and as a matter of what-can-be-done. Originally you batched it out (since this was the only way to do it) you could only make as many batches as you could syndicate-out or pay-for yourself. The batch size was also ten to start with, because Subeta wasn't sure this was going to be a going concern enough to pay for the staff time to administer. This is immediately as a matter of practicality demand-limited, because getting ten people to agree, even if they are new players is hard and buying ten copies yourself is pricey.

Oftentimes, even if someone promised only-so-many-batches, from a size of the market prediction and an intuition of how popular the item might be, they weren't gonna ever sell more than that many copies to start with. The creation of the CW section of the Pawn Shop is proof of this. It was an easy promise to make. As to why anyone would pay IKCSC for a virtual item I decline to comment. Users are more likely to buy CWs now than they used to be and they'd complain a lot!!! about the prices then and the prices are generally higher now even with the smaller batch-size.

If you do it direct to shop now, you can serve out as many copies to new players as want it and the cost to you is much lower. It is more 'unlimited' to my mind and I apologize for the misrepresentation.