Does a t12 pet stand any chance of winning against the Forj Matriarch (Impossible) or Meatslab, the Furious?

I've been looking through the battle achievements and have no idea if it's something my pet should be able to beat yet or not laughs

My pet is tier 12

My current battle set is:

And the scrolls....

If you think I stand a chance against those challengers, any advice on the weapons to use would be welcome please (then I know what to save up for!) ;)

Given the right set, you can certainly beat Mama Forj 10 times with your pet's stats, and might be able to get a couple wins on furious meat. The thing though is that both opponents require a magma block of some sort, and that is what your current set lacks. Right now there are two options: 1- You can buy a temporary magma block to get wins on Mama Forj. Shadowglen Anchor from the MC is quite decent - I used it to get 5 wins against Mama Forj back when I was at 11,900 total core stats or so. Its erratic healing is its drawback, so please keep it in mind. A cheaper alternative is Shinwas Short Sword, but it doesn't have any heal. The second best magma block that is currently buyable is the Unstable Sample Syringe. However, all of these weapons can only get you as far as 10 wins on Mama Forj. If you want to take on Furious, you might need a godly magma blocker, such as Cronus Blade itself. This you can ask to borrow from other battlers using the Weapon lending and borrowing thread.

2- You might want to wait until you've got more health, especially if you want to get 5 wins on Furious meat. The other T12 pets I've known who have got 5 wins on him all have around 6,000-6,300 HP. It also depends on your available healing scroll and other weapons. If your infinite healing scroll heals for only 7%, you might need more health to make up for the lesser percentage heal. Some solid infinite scrolls to consider are Aftershocks, Skelly Scroll (for Meat) and Ocean Currents (for Forj). You can use Holy Deluge for Forj if you want, but I doubt it would rival the other scrolls I have listed if you want to take on Furious meat.

Other recommendations: 1- Your set I don't know if you've got other weapons lying around in your armory, but from the first glance at your set I think you can add Reviver of the Lion, Soma Tablets and Recycle Blaster to your set. Soma and Recycle Blaster will make a huge difference for you if you go against Mama Forj and especially Meatslab.

2- Icons Mama Forj is weak to water and resistant to all other icons, so you might want to consider this when putting together your set. Your two main weapons and scrolls should stack water damage (that's why Ocean Currents and Holy Deluge are among the best scrolls to use against this challenger). Unstable Sample Syringe deals heavy water damage too, that's why it's the best magma blocker for this challenger. Shinwas Short Sword and Shadowglen Anchor are up next since both deal water damage. You can get rid of your freezing scrolls (Psycho and Gelaspell) for both Forj and Furious, since both cannot be frozen anyway. Perilous Whirlpools however make for very good OPB scrolls for Forj since they block fire and deal water at the same time.

For Furious meat I've got zero experience so I'm going to tag some battlers with T12 pets who recently got 5 wins against him here so they can offer more help to you esp. regarding stat distribution, set and strategy .

whoa, that's informative! :D Thanks :D I do have Soma Tablet and the Recycle Blaster lurking somewhere, and I'll go and take a look at the other things you suggested now :D

[edit] Whoo! With those suggestions (adding in the tablets, blaster & Shinwas Short Sword) I got three wins against Forj Matriarch :D

You can absolutely get at least 5 wins against meatslab with a T12 pet! You will want around mid T12 stats, so around 15,000 - 17,000 stats overall, with a majority of the stats in health and defense. If you are training all stats evenly, you can still beat him, but it may take a little more stats to do so. To get 5 wins, you will want at least 6k in health. However, since your other stats are higher you may be be able to do it with 5k - 5.5k health. Based on the stats you have posted, you definitely can get some wins if you have the right equipment.

Weapons you will want: definitely want to borrow the cronus blade from someone that has already one it since he deals a lot of magma and the cronus boosts your stats with each use. I have known some users to get a couple of wins without the cronus blade, but the blade will make your life a lot easier. You will also want the volatile mecha to again increase your stats and do curse damage for 100 turns. Other than that, you will want either a fire blocker or physical blocker (so natasha, pbow, AU or the ether), at least 2 healers, and I would recommend two blasters (soma and rblaster). The best thing to blast is a mighty flex and bluud wand that he favors the most that battle. Mod with crit strike and singed baguettes since blessings are disabled and he cannot freeze you.

Scrolls: an infinite use scroll like aftershocks, feather explosion, or maybe skelly scroll. Cobalt eternals are very good for him and so are fatal fire. No freezers since he can't be frozen. Gift of the forj scrolls are very good. The void is a nice scroll as well for the block.

Overall if you have the right equipment, just try and fight him and see how far you can get. You'll find some wins are easier than others depending on your strategy, what you blast, and what he uses.

Okay so I recently just got my 10 wins against Forj, and the trick with him as said is to deal large amounts of water icons, while blocking magma. It is also VERY important to mod your weapons with BONA crystals as she can steaaal like no tomorrow if you let her, Blessing of Natural Armour are the name of the crystals, I feel you should know this as this is the only reason I lost against her! The first 5 wins I got without Cronus blade, but you will deff wanna pick up a Unstable Sample Syringe as pointed out! If you can borrow a Cronus blade, even better! With the boosting Cronus does, it will end sooner and you'll be able to crit more often!

For meatslab I just got 5 wins two days ago! My stats for him were; Health: 6018 / 6018 Strength: 4174 Defense: 3453 Speed: 3205 Intelligence: 2984 AP: 185

I got my first 3 wins against him with 3.5k strength, and 5.5k health, but I felt I needed the extra after boosting to get the final two wins! I have a fair bit of AP so I used a bunch of Cobalt Eternal Scrolls, like 12 or so + infinite healing scroll + two gift of the forj scrolls. You'll wanna blast his Mighty Flex + Bluud wand as pointed out.

I'd be very surprised if you could get win 2-5 without a physical block actually as although Magma is his hardest hitting, the physical attacks from mighty flex will hit you harder if you can't block them! Even with 185 AP I am hesitant to use the void scroll though, if you can use your blasters first turn with infinite scroll or cobalt that would be a lot cheaper, and without him boosting you should be able to survive that no trouble. I also recommend 2 healers, and wouldn't use them until you have less than 10% HP personally.

You could make use of Negating Pylonics and use one each time you try for the added defense, + it leaves a weapon slot free! As said, you'll find some battles a lot easier than others, infact I got win without using a Cronus blade and just used Ether + ME and it worked in my favour blasting two mighty flex'

Good luck!!

I actually got all of my wins without needed a physical blocker. However, I did use cobalt scrolls and other scrolls to block physical. In some of the battles I also was lucky and he rarely used mighty flex. I think it really boils down to whatever weapons he is going to favor for that fight and having the flexibility to compensate. If you're blocking magma and physical, then fatal fire scrolls are the way to go. If you're blocking magma and fire, then cobalt and SE are the way to go, etc.

Don't forget about shards as they will help when you run out of scrolls. The regenerating pylonic is also nice for the boost. You will not be able to block out all the damage he does and the longer the battle goes on, the more he boosts. Your best tactic is to finish him off as quickly as possible so the more damage you can do the better.

thanks :D I'll work on training / boosting HP a bit more, going on what you've both said, but that's really helpful on the weapons & scrolls to use :D

Good luck!

Well with your help and a couple of items borrowed from friends, I'm up to 4 wins against Meatslab!! dances :D :D :D Need to take a break before I try for that 5th win again though (the battle screen's making me go cross-eyed 😊)

[edit] Huge thanks for all the help :D :D :D

I did a heck of a lot of boosting, so my final stats to get that 5th win were

Level: 2021 Health: 1700 / 5010 Strength: 4848 Defense: 4640 Speed: 3689 Intelligence: 1681 AP: 104

Yaya, congrats! Cronus is such a neat weapon! Have fun playing with it :D

congrats! :D

Congrats on your wins! I knew you could do it with the right stuff :D thanks for posting your stat info! So it looks like 5,000 health or 16,8000 stats overall is enough to beat him 5 times.

Yay! I'm glad my pom-poms were not in vain! That's wonderful. ^.^ I don't break out the pom-poms for just anyone, you know. =0P

Congratulations on your wins and new weapon! :) I'm sure the Cronus will be of much help to you in battles ^^