is going to see if someone can bold the part that indicates that items still must be submitted in multiples of 10. Please make sure when you are setting batch/copy limits that you do not offer them up in uneven multiples of 5. Because of previous release requirements, there's no way to easily change the coding. Although you only slot for 5 copies at a time, you must still release in multiples of 10 (so copy availability is only in 10/20/30/etc). You cannot submit 5/15/25 copies. It's not possible at this time. This is a PSA for those who (like me and several others) missed this and have offered or planned to offer slots in uneven batch numbers.

To be clearer, you don't have to ever slot all 10/20/30 etc copies. You can state - max of 4 batches/20 copies, but only slotting 15 etc etc. You just cannot misrepresent how many total copies will be on-site.

- pinging with permission of for all those who are not part of the CW Releaser group who may be releasers as well.

I've already written my ticket. Tfw you fail real hard.

This was actually something I brought up with staff a few days (if that) after the system was released...

I'm at work right now, so sorry for the briefness!

I noticed it as well and I hope it can be changed! It would help submitting items in multiples of 5 instead of 10. Thank you for the PSA!

Thank you for the screenshots. Unfortunately, this isn't noted anywhere on the submission page, so it's definitely something at least that should be bolded and should've been outlined when they made the announcement about the change, since it's not clear unless you try to submit in increments of 5. You can no longer say 'single batch' because it's not actually possible :( I appreciate the clarification on why it's set up that way from your tickets though! Hopefully we can get a clear note added into the submission page and an announcement (even on the FAQ thread) with a ping from the staff owned group so folks are aware of this going forward.

Yeah but I've advertised as 15 and I can't. Am I allowed to decrase to 10? Upgrade to 20? Who knows.

on the submission page when setting batches, it does say that copies must be in increments of 10 in this block of text. this was there since the changes to 5 slots per batch, however it...doesn't super make sense to me, admittedly. i mean it DOES make super sense, because it fits better with the old system of 10 slots/batch, and because it's much simpler i think to keep up with 10's than 5's and probably has less room for error (plus its closer to what we were used to doing beforehand), but it also doesn't mesh super well with the new batch total being 5, since it's impossible to have 1 or 3 batch items. overall it makes me feel like we're still working with full batches of 10, just submitting at half batches. maybe that was the intent and it totally went over my head though!

...so much of that was semantics, LOL. sorry! BUT either way i'm interested to hear about what to do if folks have mentioned smth like 15 copies and so on, and tbh if there will be any potential changes to the multiples-of-10 rule.

[edit] ooo thank you for sharing! i didn't think it would mess with previous CW submissions, but tbh it makes sense!

No problem--I'm not sure if it was just me or if people didn't pay too, too much attention to it, but it didn't seem like anyone was too concerned with the issue.

From the way staff had responded, they're not too concerned about it either (but as you can probably tell, I have my reservations).

This should be definitely noted in bold somewhere on the submission page, lest it become another situation like the DTS issue we had.

Please poke me to update my side of the document as well--been doing a lot of planning and whatnot for the Masquerade, so all my priorities of everywhere!

Damn, I read that like 5 times and /still/ missed the multiples of 10 thing. It really should be mentioned in the same line where it says submissions are 5 per batch, because that's pretty patently untrue. If you can't submit less than 10 copies, then one batch is still 10 copies and you just have to submit half at a time.

At the very least, it could do with being bolded so it doesn't get overlooked hopefully =/

I forget what document you mean haha /dies I can't remember to do anything lately I swear to god. My brain is just all over the place. I need a vacation.

In a way, I feel like the staff is trying to extend the same courtesy that the did with the DTS issue a while ago.

And as you can tell by my screenshots, I do have my reservations about the way it's set up, as like you said, you can always just pop off those 5 copies no problem and the "system allows it".

And yeah, the news post...it takes some reading and on some level, it doesn't "sound" particularly like the way it's meant to? Hence why I submitted my ticket in the first place. xD

i almost advertised something as 25 copies the other day until i realized i couldn't submit as 25 copies. in the past i've seen people get warnings for announcing a batch limit of 2 and submitting as 3....so i'm not sure what to do here either

I know some users have said "slotting 25 now, 5 later" to get around this issue--but tl;dr, it seems to me that staff is attempting to extend the same courtesy to us as they did with the DTS system (when first batches can't fill and we just DTS).

I don't know if you're aware of this but i figured it would be a good idea to inform you regarding the new batch system. Check out the first post. c:

YEAH i definitely agree; i thought there was a bug when I tried to submit a multiple of 5 item (my survival contest participation CWs), but then i read and it was like nah fam multiples of 10 only. i whined about it on tumblr on the 2nd but it wasn't a helpful post at all it was just me being exasperated so im not linkin it AEIOFHEUIGH i'm just mentioning it for a timeframe reference. at the time i was sure i was just dumb/didn't read but now i feel dumb bc i didn't mention it. LOSE/LOSE FOR VARZEND

ANYWAY! with folks not thinking it's written anywhere tho, it should definitely be bolded or moved or smth.

seconding what has said too; i'm not sure what to do here either because while it literally comes down to it only being 5 more or less slots, and it probably sounds so trivial to worry about that like...what idk if staff quite understands about the CW process is that a lot of us have been conditioned to be anal and worried about things like semantics because it's so easy to get slapped with a warning just because someone else in the community is being petty. it's not staff's fault by any means that it happens, but imo the system should reflect/be designed with that aspect in mind. in a perfect world we could all sit back and be like 'ah shit oops i gotta round up, oh well, now i know!' but we just...can't do that without either pinging 30 people to tell them, scrapping the item release and re-doing it, opening a ticket about it, or just keeping our fingers crossed that nobody nitpicks it & reports it.

I'm super confused about this lol and was when they implemented the change. If you are submitting one batch then its now 2 batches but written as one? huh? But if it doesn't end in a 5, then you have to increase the batches? yeah, Raven is lost. -puts tired brain down for a nap-

With me, the easiest way to avoid this from happening, is to just not make a definite mention of batch limits. That way, if you don't actually fill up a first batch all the way to ten, but you submit the item to get it approved, you just fill up what you can w/out making any definite claims of how many copies you intend to have on site.

I think my question would be, would one get into trouble for putting it into the shop after the first 'half batch' approval goes through, because you didn't fill it all the way to 10 first? Cuz I've done that, but not with the intent to screw anyone over, I figured the 5 submission thing was to help us get it submitted... but I didn't think I had to still fill all 10 slots before I submitted.... esp cuz it seems most people don't bother to slot if the first 5 are full up... it seems to me.

But thanks for the info!

Bah, sorry for double post! Dx

The way the system works (behind the scenes/programming/coding) is that it HAS to be multiples of 10 due to how the system was set up.

We're now just given the option to submit 5/batch now, to make slotting easier.

It's backwards and doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's unfortunately what we have to work with for the foreseeable future.

Its just really confusing haha

so my first submit batch can still be 5, i knew the incs of 10 bc it doesn't accept less than 10. That what this is saying?