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Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
Mary
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Note: This club primarily uses OUT OF CHARACTER DISCUSSION/CHATTING. Please do not roleplay in this thread unless it is otherwise noted.


With the release of [Harry Potter and the Cursed Child today, we felt like there was only one logical choice for this term's book club. So this will be a place where you can discuss, gripe, gush, whine, ponder, and all other emotional outbursts the book may cause.

Normally we have the Book Club with the HP books that have been out for years. Since this is a brand new book and we understand that not everyone can read it in its entirety in one day (myself included), we are going to have to set up a couple of ground rules.

Any and all discussion on Harry Potter and the Cursed Child MUST be posted here and no where else in Wizarding's forums. This is so that we can contain spoilers to one area. Please refrain from revealing spoilers/info on the book in The Great Hall Chatter or any other thread.

From now until this thread reaches page 2, you MUST have your post inside spoiler tags. Use those spoiler tags as they were intended! This will help if there's anyone that accidentally stumbles into the thread (or clicks on the event that they received from me posting this thread) from being spoiled before they are ready. After page 2, spoiler tags are not required.

Other than that, there are no other rules. I do not intend on taking down members this time--I'd rather this be an open discussion. :)

Enjoy the book and I look forward to discussing it with you!!

Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
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At the rate I'm going I reckon I'll finish reading it in one day haha EDIT: yep, done, oops

Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
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Sauvanet

How do we find the book to read if we don't want/can't buy it? Does anyone know if it's at public libraries or is it still too early for that?

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Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
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my thoughts

I didn't like it if I'm going to be completely honest. It read like a bad fanfiction to me... I had so many problems with the way the characters acted, their personality shifts, and such other things. It just seemed very un-canon.

Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
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SPOILER (click to toggle) I have one question that bugged me from the start: Why Rose Granger-Weasely and not just Rose Weasely?

Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
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Mula

SPOILER (click to toggle) I haven't read it yet, but some weeks ago, there was a introduction of the actors for the play, as well with some general characterisation. I suppose Hermione wanted to keep her maiden-name alive, being the strong, independent female character she is. c:

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Jul 31, 2016 9 years ago
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I found that kinda ridiculous tbh, bc it also sounded silly, but whatever...

Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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SPOILER (click to toggle) I agree, actually. A little disappointing to be honest, but I just tell myself that in play form it'd be good

Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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public libraries should carry it. It may have a ton of people waiting to read it (i.e. 480+ people requesting x copies). Check online if your local library has a copy. I'm not sure which way I'll go: buy or borrow.

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Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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I want to buy it buy I don't have the money, so I'm going to try to borrow it from someone/somewhere. lol :-) Thank you for the information, now I have to try to figure out my new public library. ❤️

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Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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ugh Here was my biggest problem with it in 4 words

Voldemort had a daughter

Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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[Spoiler=ughhhhh] And with Bellatrix for gods sake. It really sounds like a fanfic [/spoiler]

Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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SPOILER (click to toggle) And the fact that she had "white hair with blue streaks" like that totally sounds like mary sue territory for real. So angry. The rest was believeable even though I didn't like it. Like Albus in slytherin... okay I'm not happy but okay. However, based off of Scorpious's personality, he would have been a hufflepuff for sure, not a damn slytherin.

Then the fucking thing about Cedric turning into a death eater just because he was humiliated? I call major bullshit on that. Cedric was a fluff ball, he would have never done such a thing regardless of how humiliated he got.

BAD.

Aug 1, 2016 9 years ago
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My initial thoughts (I.E. thoughts before I've read anyone else's thoughts) I didn't love it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it.

I'm a little sad that it was such a quick read. I know, I know... play format and all that. I somehow still wished it would have been longer.

Albus's angst in the first act is RIDICULOUS. Man, if we thought Harry's was bad... ahahaha nothing beats this kid. Though I guess he probably got it from his dad.

I really feel like Harry shouldn't have been Head of Magical Law Enforcement. It doesn't seem like his cup of tea.

... WHERE ARE JAMES AND LILY FOR THIS WHOLE THING? Seriously, even when their BROTHER IS COMPLETELY MISSING, they are nowhere to be found. Their cousins are no where to be found. We don't even see Hugo for the entire play.

My heart hurt at seeing Snape again. And then watching him die all over again. I love that even though things went badly in the AU, he still stayed against Voldemort, even if secretly.

You can tell JKR didn't have a huge hand in this. Either that or she is just turning into one of those people who are in it because it's still such a huge cash cow. This didn't seem like her work at all. I feel like the other writers saw A Very Potter Sequel and mashed it with the epilogue and wanted to get their Dramione jollies out through their kids, then threw in a "child of Voldemort" OC (which is an amateur move that I did WHEN I WAS THIRTEEN).

I love that in every AU, Ron and Hermione were still drawn to each other. It bothers me how deflated and non-Ron he was when married to Padma. I hate how non-Hermione she was when he was married to Padma. I can't realistically believe that they would be so different because of it.

And I can't realistically believe that something so stupid as having been sabotaged to engorge would humiliate Cedric to the point that he would be fundamentally different to his core. To make him a murderer.

OK now I read everyone else's thoughts

Yeah, so I'm definitely not alone in thinking that Delphi is complete bullshit. I'm really tempted to go back through the last book and write out a timeline to prove that it WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. But I'm afraid to find out it would be. xD I always did find it a bit weird that we never see Bellatrix outside of Malfoy Manor...

And I've never really seen Voldemort to really even be the type of person who would be interested in having an heir. He was convinced he would never die... he wouldn't have a reason for it.

Plus I always saw him as being asexual personally.

Aug 2, 2016 9 years ago
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SPOILER (click to toggle) If you do the math, it is actually possible for her to have been pregnant. She wasn't at the tower when Dumbledore was killed, for example. Now that would be a major thing for her to be in on, so yeah... it's possible.

here, read this quote from a fan theory that makes sense

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You ever notice how Bellatrix Lestrange is not there when Snape kills Dumbledore on the tower (in the book, anyways)? Why wouldn&;t Voldemort&;s most dangerous lieutenant, and Draco&;s aunt be there? At the beginning of HBP, Bellatrix says something strange...&quot;If I had sons, I would be glad to give them up to the service of the Dark Lord!&quot; Notice how she said sons, not a son.In DH, it says 3 times that Bellatrix talked to Voldemort as a lover and her death is the only time Voldemort is upset at someone&;s death.</p>
<p>My theory is Bellatrix was pregnant at the beginning of HBP when they saw Snape with Voldermort&;s child. She is thinking of the future and says sons instead of son because she already has one on the way. She is missing from the battle because she is off giving birth to Voldemort&;s child. She changes how she speaks to him after OOTP and Rowling even tells us how. And it&;s why Voldemort insists on Bellatrix getting rid of Nymphadora and keeping her family tree pruned. Therefore, I think the cursed child is Bellatrix&;s child with Voldemort. And that the plot will be if a child is born bad because of their parents or if the child has a chance to be good despite.

Aug 2, 2016 9 years ago
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Wattlebird

Welp... I guess that makes sense? I'm still not happy about it.

Aug 2, 2016 9 years ago
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SPOILER (click to toggle) I ship Delphi with Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way

Aug 2, 2016 9 years ago
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SPOILER (click to toggle) Holy shit, I ship it so hard!

Aug 2, 2016 9 years ago
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I have read the whole book

Hmmmmm I read the book in an hour or two - not the world's longest book (and considering the price, I had expected it to be longer! Less than half the pages of DH and less words on each page too).

What is it with the ending.... it sounds like they get to the last scene, and get told "you now have 5 seconds to wrap everything up". Worst - ending - ever :P

I do like some of the 'filler' we're given (like Hagrid at Godric's Hollow), but unless I skimmed it (I naturally speed read so I do sometimes miss small details the first time I read something), what did the Sorting Hat see in Albus that made him go into Slytherin in the first place? And like said, how come Scorpius was Slytherin, given the way he acts?

And Death Eater Cedric? I definitely don't buy that - there's nothing in Cedric's character in the fourth book that'd leave me to believe that was even remotely possible.

I'm not convinced that Voldemort would've had a child.... ok maybe Bellatrix wanted one with him, but for him to actually do that? Nope, that doesn't fit with his character. And does anyone else think the only reason it was a daughter was just to get the main characters' genders balancing out (or is that just me being unkind?)?

It does sound like fanfiction - when I wrote a fanfic and had someone claim "James would never say that". JKR's characters should be able to stay in character, especially if she had as much input as it seems.

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Aug 3, 2016 9 years ago
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Just spend my tuesday evening with the book.

SPOILER (click to toggle) First of all, the book design is really neat. The jacket has a nice, soft material. For reading, I took it off, and underneath the jacket, there's simply a black book with the golden Cursed-Child-Logo on it.

But that's just about the looks.

For the story, I agree with most of you. There are scenes where you would like to know more details. Yes, I know, it's a play, but we only got to read about Rose, Scorpius and Albus being sorted? It was kinda clear for Rose and Scorpius where they gonna end up, but with Albus' sorting, I expected a discussion like Harry had, the hat itself ponders about which house would suit him best. And don't get me started on that flying lesson where I felt like left out in the rain. This couldn't be all of it. What I don't get is how the students are so overhyped about a Potter being in their year - and then he gets sorted into Slytherin and they do their best to let him know he's really the spare one, unworthy of the family name. I know kids can be cruel, but it feels unlikely to treat Harry Potter's son this way. If I remember correctly, Albus did nothing wrong to be disliked so much. I'm not even sure if he was liked in his house, except for Scorpius.

For Scorpius, I just got to say that he's my favourite character from this book. His geekyness, which compares a lot to Hermione's, is a really nice trait. His character simply felt 'true to the heart' to me.

That Amos showed up again, still mourning about his son, was kind of annoying to me. I never liked Amos in the books and now, in Cursed Child, he acts as if he was the only one who lost a dear person for - let me call it 'the greater good' (with Harry winning the war, but innocent lives were taken as well).

I'm still astonished Voldemort managed to have a child. I always thought he had become so artificial that things like this would not work anymore.

In conclusion, the whole story mostly reads like a fanfic some teenager scrambled together. But since it's Harry Potter, I still somehow enjoyed reading it - not sure if this would be the case if it was a completely different fandom/setting.

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