I need some serious csc to be able to afford to release some of the items i want to make personally, so I'm gonna make your stuff until then.

Sorry my shop isn't fancy its late and I'm tired ill make it pretty later.

Basically, I will make you whatever you want. Literally whatever you want i just need some CSC really bad lol.

Prices will be 1/10th of the item cost + 100 csc and i will need to fill the slots

What said is well explained ha ha.

that's not how commissions work! I'll make a scenario to better illustrate the process --

1. You make a thread offering commissions. For example, your clothes are 2,000 csc and your wigs are 2,500csc (random numbers im throwing here)

2. I'm interested in commissioning you for a wig. I'll show you references and you'll show me progress WIPs such as sketching, outline+flat shading, fully shaded and then also doing the CI.

3. Once both sides are happy with the result, you set up a trade and I bid the 2,500csc that the commission cost. In return, you send me all the files to submit the wig myself (overlay(s), CI and usually there's a preview as well).

If I sell the wig myself and make profit, the profit is mine, it is not shared with you. However as soon as you hand out the files, you already get your 2,500csc that is owed for the commission. Which means that whether I sell 1 batch or 4 batches of said item is my own business and I may or may not make profit off the wig in the end.

It does guarantee that you are paid for your work before it is even submitted by me. You will also receive your free artist copy once the item is onsite.

Exactly what said. If you have other questions regarding commissions, please ping or comment me.

OMG i am so confused, like for real. I thought me making CW would make myself some CSC? Why is the system set up for others to profit off my work? I don't understand I'm sorry if I'm being annoying this is all really new to me and i don't understand how this stuff works. I thought i would just make stuff and it would go in a shop and people would buy it? And that commissions were like things people wanted to be able to wear so they help me get it into my shop? Also if someone fills a slot for a cw, they get a copy of that item right? I mean they did pay...

isnt that how commissions work though?

I mean, if you were the only person making profit and your commissioner wouldn't, what incentive would they have to commission in the first place? They'd basically be throwing money out of the window!

You're asking users to pay you money (thus losing that money) while you not only get csc for creating the cw but also for releasing it. It really isn't fair!

Here's another scenario to deconstruct how profit works (:

1. You are commissioned to make a wig for 2,500csc, just like mentioned earlier. Once you finish, the commissioner sends you 2,500csc and that's that.

2. Now on their side. If they sell the wig for 600csc, here's how it goes;

They slot 8 copies of the wig @ 600csc each (plus the 9th copy for themselves and the 10th copy they need to pay for you)

This means 8 copies x 600csc = 4,800csc They still need to pay 200csc to submit the item which costs 5,000csc to submit

^ First batch = no profit, loss of 200csc

If they can manage to sell a SECOND batch and they do not need any additional copy, here's how it goes ; 10 copies @ 600csc each = 6,000csc So they'll make 1,000csc profit per subsequent batch

At this point, at the end of the second batch, they are still 'losing' because they paid you 2,500csc to have the wig made and they've made 800csc profit.

Now. Most people actually slot wigs at 700 instead of 600. Which means 8 copies x 700csc = 5,600csc ^ They make 600csc profit off the first batch. They're still losing csc so far.

Second batch: 10 copies x 700csc = 7,000csc ^ They make 2,000csc profit.

Calculare 600csc + 2,000csc = for two batches at the 'regular' price, they've broken even and made 100csc profit only.

^ In this optic, I don't think commissioners are really profitting off your work so much.

I'd tend to say that more often than not, the artist gets more 'profit' than the commissioner in the end.

If I'm not clear enough, please let me know!

hopefully I can unconfuse you hon.

commissions are when someone requests you to make something for them to release, so they pay you to make the item, and they release it and take slots on the item and make any profit. Your profit was being paid to make said item.

if you want to release the item, you can do it in two ways....you can take slots on the item, where you have people buy slots and they pay for the item and they get the item.

this is an image of what it looks like when you slot an item in the threads.... *I am submitting a wig...so the cost is 5K, but if I get people to slot on the wig my cost in submitting it goes down. (if I fill all 9 slots-the submission cost is paid for by those that request a slot, when slotting at 700csc/slot)

the other way is direct to your cw cash shop. prices vary on this too. Once it is approved, it will be in your shop and anyone can buy the item, and the profit goes straight to your account.

now with this when you click the 1600csc to submit to cash shop, you pay that upfront, once the item is approved you can then set your price in your shop at 700csc(minimum price is 600csc) and you will get your profit in your account once an item sells.

you probably will want to do the second option I posted....that way you don't have to worry about slots and people can just buy the item directly from your shop.

I was using a wig as an example....items have different minimum selling amounts

ok thanks for clarifying. So taking commissions means i get paid and the other person takes all the hassle of slotting on for themselves. So far slotting looks like a pain in my ass lol.

So for pricing cw commissions, how do i gauge that? Half the submission cost? That seems what you used in your example. So if it takes 5000csc to submit a wig, i charge 2500 to make the wig?

and just to clarify, each slot paid represents a copy of the item right? like if one person filled two slots, they receive two wigs?

exactly! Slotting is tedious and nowadays, most items slot for 1-2 batches. It sometimes yields 3 batches, which is pretty rare.

For pricing commissions, I suggest you look at the different commission threads and gauge what people ask for. Keep in mind that most of them have more experience however, and you shouldn't expect to make $50 off a wig like an artist that has been around for years!

And yes, each slot represents a paid copy - so if a user buys two slots, they get two copies (:

you can charge what you like for commissions. But generally it is 2500csc for a wig, sometimes more....it just depends. of course smaller things will be less....for instance a ring might only be 1000csc.

and yes each slot paid represents a copy of the item. so if someone asks for 2, they pay for 2 and will get 2 copies.

yay! I am unconfused! Thank you for being patient with me.

So basically i need to get supporters (slots) BEFORE i make my item to make sure it can get paid for? Cause i have SEVERAL items i already made that I'm unable to submit now lol.

Have you spent much time looking at the shops in the Custom Clothing forums? You don't seem to have a good grasp on how CWs are made or sold. I know it's a lot to take in right now, but you'll get there!

Just as an example, let's look at 's shop. It's simple, but should illustrate you need to know. First, you see what CWs they are selling. Right now, there's a a couple of wigs and a couple of makeup CWs. They have clear example images posted so that users know what they are buying, and how it looks on the HA. It's an extra step for you to make these preview images, but it can mean a big difference in sales if people can imagine how they will use the item! They also have the batch size for each CW listed, and the price, which are both very important pieces of information for buyers.

Below the CWs for sale, they have a spoiler called Slots. There you will see a list of all the people that want to buy the CWs in question. You'll see that Ale has listed themselves as the first slot, and the artist of the CW in the second slot. All the other slots are other users that want to buy the CW. When the slot list fills up, that will leave 8 people to pay for their slots. When they submit their CW to subeta here, after they fill in the first page of information, they will be taken to a page with a form to enter in the names of everyone that wants a slot (see 's post above. Ale will then enter their name in one slot, their artist's in another slot, and the 8 buyers in the remaining slots. Ale will then enter the cost for each slot on the right side of that page. When the CW is submitted, all 10 people, will receive a notification from subeta that it's time to pay for their slot.

When everyone has paid for their slot, the CW will be entered into the queue for Subeta to approve or deny the CW. If approved, everyone Ale listed on the slot page will receive a copy of their CW. If denied, Ale will receive a notification from the subeta staff as to why the CW was denied, so that they can have their artist fix the CW and try again.

AS FOR CW COMMISSIONS, yes, they are a way for you to get CSC. Basically, a user is paying you for your service to draw and item that THEY want, and when they have paid you, the CW files are now theirs to do with as they wish. They will submit the CW, and sell the slots. As long as you charge a fair amount for your time, you should be able to get a good amount of CSC quickly from commissions. gave good examples of commission prices (2000 csc for clothing, 2500 for a wig) etc. People charge extra for additional recolors of items that have been commissioned from them, so that adds up too.

If you have any questions, please ask! :>