Gallery and Shop ideas
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After reading about the new shops and how it's going to affect both the shops and Galleries, and I had a few ideas as well for this: Galleries:
- Do one large gallery (10k items max, with one UI each) so people can show off their goods, but make it where you can lock it after you complete the collection. Afterwards, you can make a smaller shop for a smaller collection later on if you wish. This would help with constant collections, such as the holiday items (which I collect) so that don't have to be broken up.
Shops: *Make it where the shops have at least 2k items, with unlimited UIs. This'd make it where more items could sell off faster and more could be in there to sell. Plus, a user shop is likely around that if I've been hearing correctly. *Allow people to see what the lowest prices are for each item when trying to decide what items they want to move to the shops. This would be especially helpful for the non-GA users (or ones like myself who don't get GA's that often), so that they can move items as they please into the shops without worrying about putting an item in that isn't priced yet so that they can sell it on the forums or trade for it when needed.
Just my two cents on things, but I hope that this goes into play. It'd relieve a lot of the headaches I'm seeing so far.
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I also had an idea for a different way to handle galleries - especially for those like me who don't appreciate the feeling lately that's going around that it's somehow "wrong" to "hoard" (I'm talking unique items, not lots of one item). I LOVE the items on site and haven't appreciated the sentiment I've been seeing lately in feedback that somehow what I like is wrong or bad when my interest is simply to obtain eventually one of every of these very cool items the site has put out over the years. :/
So to maybe help folks like me keep our collections without upsetting the system, could there be a way to make a gallery more like our Wishlists? Granted, items would have to be put in a few at a time (like the current max per category of 500 on a WL category but it would eventually need to be more than that, I think, considering if you collect a certain item like minions, there are far more than 500). Allow us as many categories as seem feasible (maybe 20 or so if there needs to be a maximum) and a limit on how many can be in each category. Then you choose which category to pull up instead of the system trying to load the entire thing and bogging things down. I pull up "uncategorized" and sort those into their slots and then I can add 500 or however many more items. On the "front" end (where other people would view the gallery), they would have the links to each category just like with WLs and can then choose which category to view. And if that front end shows how many items IN that category, the viewer can decide if they want to view it or not (say they have a slower computer and don't want to wait for a large category to load).
Just a thought as an alternate solution.
I think once the limits are raised after testing, things will settle down quite a bit. Once they finish with their testing, the limits will be adjusted and hopefully it's enough that the majority of users won't have any problem fitting all of their store and collections into them. it's hard to tell right now which suggestions will be good until the final limit is revealed. ultimately, the limits are set by the staff so any suggestion of them is kinda arbitrary.
And yet this IS the suggestions and ideas forum where we can post our well... suggestions and ideas. Imagine that. But thanks for coming in here and basically telling us our suggestions are pointless. rolls eyes
Not pointless, but I don't know if it helps anything? It's hard to tell right now what the limits will be once testing is done, but I believe they'll set them based on what they think will benefit the servers, not based on suggestions.
I wonder if removing the ability to shop search through galleries would help galleries at all? Why do they need to be in the same setup as shops if shops are the things most constantly accessed which is causing the problem. Are galleries actually contributing to the problem, or is it mostly shops and galleries are just being pulled in because they share the same base code?
in reference to
<p>If you update the price in your user shop, or an item is purchased, or any type of edit on the table, the entire table has to lock for some amount of time, which means that the next query (looking up items, also purchasing an item, etc) gets put a few milliseconds behind until the first one is done. These pileup and you end up with 5-6 seconds for a query to finish, or sometimes 30+ seconds, which is where the errors happen because the servers timeout waiting on the query to finish.</p>
<p>This doesn&;t happen with vaults, or wardrobes, because there aren&;t nearly that many things on the site hitting them. People aren&;t frequently updating the price of items in their wardrobes, frequently adding/removing items from them, or anything like that.</p>
<p>In addition to the limits, we&;re re-organizing the way that the items sit in our database so that none of these things are stored in the same place, and you shouldn&;t be waiting on the entire table to finish a process before you add an item to your gallery.
people have asked if there's a way to remove galleries from shops, but I haven't actually seen an answer to that question.
I'm sorry, but as I've said in other threads - having a single unique item allowed only would not resolve any headaches for collectors. Nor is only being allowed a single gallery. 10k items isn't enough, either XS
