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Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
Damon
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Evee

When the heck did the pet ids go from 3.8mil to nearly 4.4mil range? I was just looking in the pound when I noticed a pet with an id over 4mil.. I thought it was 400k but no...

Just wondering if this was part of a pet doom recently or another glitch that caused the ids to go bonkers? [edit] Sorry I just double checked... the ids are nearing 5 mil....

Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
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Vivisect

hmm, my most recently created pet (created september 20) has an id of ~3.7 million... i mean, i'm sure lots of new pets have been created thanks to the mc pet slots, but over a million in a month? there's not even enough users to make that many pets. then again, i don't really understand how the pet ids work in the first place - 'about subeta' states there are ~300k pets on site, but if that's true then where did the other 4.7 million go? as far as i know, pets are only actually deleted in very rare circumstances.

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Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
Damon
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Evee

I'm now thinking that this recent lag that just hits like a truck most of the time MIGHT be responsible for a lot of higher IDs by mistake... Just really odd to see the numbers jump up THAT high though...

Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
Merlin
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Mullberry

I created one yesterday and it looks like the id is 4784605. interesting tho

Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
Ying
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Hope someone hasn't been creating thousands of pets with malicious intent.

Curiously, the Subeta homepage says we have: "351,468 Adopted Virtual Pets"

So where are the almost 4.5mil other pets? Surely we haven't cleared that many pets over the years.. then again it's been like 11-12 years since the site opened.. but aren't pets only purged from the adoption centre? Does that mean that 4.5m pets have been purged from the AC?

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Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
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Spite

I guess it was caused by a bug, not the first time that it happened. Afaik there aren't Pets in the 2mil range either.

Nov 7, 2015 10 years ago
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Well, I remember when the AC had like, 15k pets a while ago, and they purged, so not totally impossible, though it creeps me out to think theres only 400k active pets? maybe they could reset the numbers (it would be crazy XD) so we could have the chance to aquire super lower ids again? c': (kind of impossible but... why not? xD)


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Nov 8, 2015 10 years ago
Damon
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Evee

Now we have pets in the 5 mil range...... it really seems odd...

Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
Paddy
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Night

@ Virus This was happening before, with large jumps between IDs when we were approaching 2,000,000 :(

Cue a large list of ID numbers and dates :P

(I know there was a mention before that if someone tried to make a pet with an existing name, then it skips that ID number, but these skips seem larger than that....)


Pet ID 3,659,077 created July 27th Pet ID 3,672,479 created August 11th .... 13,402 pets created in 16 days (roughly 837 a day)
3,739,155 created 18th October .... 66,676 pets created over 2 months (roughly 980 a day)
4,408,106 created 4th November .... 668,951 pets created over 18 days (roughly 37,163 pets a day)
4,784,605 created 6th November .... 376,499 pets created over 3 days (125,499 pets a day)
5,211,969 created 8th November ....427,364 pets created over 3 days? (142,454 pets per day o.O)
5,363,253 created November 9th .... 955,147 pets created over six days (4th Nov - 9th Nov) :o

.... and 1,690,774 pets created in just under 3 months o.O (August - November.... roughly 18,786 new pets a day - even allowing for the small skips, that is definitely not right!)


Seeing as this really doesn't sound right.... and I didn't have much else to do this morning, I went through the pet IDs to try and see which numbers were actually used for pets....

4,408,106 created 4th November 4,408,107 - 4,408,200 (no such pets)

5,000,000 - 5,000,400 (no such pets) - at least 400 skipped IDs o.O

will edit with more when I actually find another pet ID in the low 5 mills!

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Nov 10, 2015 10 years ago
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Sucre

I have a pet with an ID of 5197315, I created him on 11/8

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
Damon
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Evee

Now it seems that the IDs are nearing 6mil... Saw a few pets in the pound with IDs at around 5.8mil.

Sorry to bother you, do you happen to know what is causing this huge spike in ID numbers? It really does not feel like a pet bcreation boom.... nearly 2mil pets in a short time, seems so unlikely.

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
Paddy
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Night

I wonder if this is down to the lag (which also appears to be causing problems with the "books read" total) - there's definitely huge amounts of IDs being skipped :(

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Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
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This matters enough to ping ???

There's an infinite amount of numbers out there.

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
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Hyacinthe

Before, a pet ID was used every time a pet was created.

Now, IDs are used whenever an attempt to create a pet is done. Due to lag over the past week, I can suspect a lot of failed attempts at creating pets happened

http://subeta.net/petinfo.php?petid=5849080

Exist

http://subeta.net/petinfo.php?petid=5849081

Does not exist

http://subeta.net/petinfo.php?petid=5849082

Exist

http://subeta.net/petinfo.php?petid=5849084

Does not exist

http://subeta.net/petinfo.php?petid=5849085

Exist.

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
Cass
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Jasper

is correct - it's failed creation attempts.

The reason the numbers are going crazy is because of name clearings - think of how many times a user smashes the refresh button on a create page at 3:00 every day when a name is clearing. Every single refresh takes a pet ID, times however many people are trying, and accounts clear every single day. It took us years to reach 1mil pets but since this glitch started the numbers have been climbing at a ridiculous rate.

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Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
Amae
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Breck

petid=5766729

That's my pet Nevie, I made her two days ago. Welp. That's certainly interesting!

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
Selene
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This is all from a bug I reported about a long time ago when pet IDs hit about a ...million, I think. Basically when someone goes to create a pet - regardless if a pet is actually created - an ID is assigned to that pet (or "would be" pet), hence skipping numbers (which would be amplified during a clearing). I'd show you guys a link to the topic, but for whatever reason my recent topics go back to 2006 right now and there is only a few of them (which I certainly made more topics than that in the last nine years lol)

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
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Sucre

They were probably lost when the forums were changed over.

Small side note, there was an account that had been set to clear just before this thread was made. It didn't, but I'm sure I wasn't the only person spamming the create button for names that day.

Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
Paddy
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Night

Quote by Cass
The reason the numbers are going crazy is because of name clearings - think of how many times a user smashes the refresh button on a create page at 3:00 every day when a name is clearing. Every single refresh takes a pet ID, times however many people are trying, and accounts clear every single day. It took us years to reach 1mil pets but since this glitch started the numbers have been climbing at a ridiculous rate.

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Pet ID 3,659,077 created July 27th
Pet ID 3,672,479 created August 11th
.... 13,402 pets created in 16 days (roughly 837 a day)</p>
<p>3,739,155 created 18th October
.... 66,676 pets created over 2 months (roughly 980 a day - still near the previous average)</p>
<p>4,408,106 created 4th November
.... 668,951 pets created over 18 days (roughly 37,163 pets a day - strangely high)</p>
<p>4,784,605 created 6th November
.... 376,499 pets created over 3 days (125,499 pets a day)</p>
<p>5,211,969 created 8th November
....427,364 pets created over 3 days? (142,454 pets per day - o.O)

Either there were some really sought after names being cleared, or this really is a bug (142k pets attempted to be created on average a day?)

yeah, I remembered Scarsdale mentioning something like that before, but with at least 400 pet IDs skipped (5,000,000 - 5,000,400 I got bored checking for pets after that number, and didn't check the few before 5mill), which even with the lag seems a bit odd to not have even one successfully created pet in that range?

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Nov 14, 2015 10 years ago
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With the account that is probably alluding too, that was the account with probably the most appealing names to clear that day, so a lot of people were probably trying at the same time...Since the account didn't clear, unless someone else was going for a name on another account/noticed a free name they liked, it makes sense there was a big gap with the numbers. You can refresh a lot in a minute, and if you amplify that with multiple people, it adds up pretty quickly.

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