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Mar 19, 2015 11 years ago
Alkuna
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I'm not sure if that's what you would call it...

I'm looking for a graph that lets you plot where something is in relation to two reference points. For example: "On a scale of 1 to 10, do you get more sP or more item value when you do X subeta quest?" etc. I'm having trouble tracking one down, and I think maybe I'm looking for it under the wrong name or something, because I could swear there was something like that, or something I could adapt to that. (similar graphs would be a wiget that would plot how far you are to a goal you plug in, that would work too!)

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Mar 19, 2015 11 years ago
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~ Have you tried making a graph in a spreadsheet?

Mar 19, 2015 11 years ago
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You mean like Excel? I've looked at their graphs, none seem to be what I'm looking for.

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Mar 19, 2015 11 years ago
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~ I use LibreOffice, and their graph maker is pretty cool. Maybe you could Google it and see if it's graphs have what you're looking for.

Mar 19, 2015 11 years ago
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I took a look at graphpad because it has datasets to explain each set of graphs that it can make. I found something called a contingency table. The explanation that it gives with the table is the following:

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How column data are arranged
The columns define two outcomes, and the rows define three treatments. For each combination of treatment and outcome, the table shows the count of the number of subjects (or occurences). Data in contingency tables, therefore, must be nonnegative integers.
So in your case you'd make the rows the quests, with the columns being SP or Item, and then you start doing quests and for each quest that you do, you add 1 to either SP or Item. In the graph you'd then be able to see which quests usually give good SP awards, and which give good item rewards. You could even add another column for no good reward at all. The only problem with this is that it doesn't calculate a percentage or anything, so if you do different amount of quests for each quest category, the bars will not be the same height and you won't be able to compare since the scale of the axis will make one bar smaller than the other.

I have no clue if excel can create such a graph.


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Mar 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Um, wow, the contingency table looks a lot more complicated than I was looking for.

I was thinking a graphic version of:

Item 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 SP

So that when you look at it you see that you'd be questing more for the value of the item than the sP, and I'd write:

"So-and-so quest items range between 20k - 50k, while the sp reward is 400sP - 10,000, definitely do this quest for the item value." etc.

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Mar 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Are you trying to determine if doing more quests has an effect on whether you get more sP or more expensive prize items? If that is the case, then this is a statistical analysis function that could potentially become a calculus problem.

I have the feeling that much of what happens in Subeta's prize generator code is produced randomly and no amount of analysis is going to reveal anything valuable that is worth the effort it would take to analyze it. You would have to gather a tremendous amount of data to come up with anything remotely relevant.

If you are comparing the different quests ( i.e. Cynthia's Quests vs. Carl's Quests ) then I believe that there are forums that have done some informal analysis and can tell you who pays out better and save you a lot of time doing your own statistical analysis. Personally, I think that Saggi quests have some of the best payouts, but I am most fond of Wizard Quests.

Of course, it is entirely possible that I have completely misunderstood your intentions and have blathered on and on about something that I know completely nothing about, in that case I hope I haven't wasted your time. If that is the case, I will give you a hug and a cookie...unless I ate it first....oops.

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Mar 20, 2015 11 years ago
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pouts You owe me a cookie....

no, Saggi pays out the best but has no item value, And Quentin's amulets give his a nice boost, but Maleria can dish out some REALLY nice items (I got an item worth 11 million sp two months ago from her). No I already got all that data from the forums. My idea was more to show sp value vs item reward value. For example, Saggi is ALL sp, Wizard's sp is crap but it's the tokens you want, while the Library has crap sp but NICE item value; who sits where on the spectrum of item vs straight sp? Mostly this is boredom plus a bit of deep detail sorting for a project.

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Mar 20, 2015 11 years ago
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: Whew...I didn't eat all the cookies, so I sent you some yummy ones. I had a feeling that might be where you were going with your request. I don't have the math skills necessary to quite understand how to do what you want to do, but I can give you a hug and a kiss and say good luck on your project.

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Mar 20, 2015 11 years ago
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mm noms! :3 Thank you, though you didn't have to do that. :3 Well it wasn't what I has hoping for but I guess I could use a stacked column graph. Thankies for the ideas though!

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Mar 21, 2015 11 years ago
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I'm no stats expert or anything, but a few minutes on wikipedia leads me to believe that what you're looking for might be called a rating scale.

Maybe you could try searching that term to find graphic representations/how-tos for setting a graph up?

I hope I'm not completely unhelpful :)

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Mar 24, 2015 11 years ago
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thanks Marjolaine! nothing seemed to come up but I'll try hunting more!

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