Right now, we have no way of pulling candy hearts out of L'Amour's Parlor.

For the steamwork trinkets, we have the bronze/gold/platinum bags that are just 1:1 bags (100 trinkets for the bronze bag, and can be redeemed for 100 trinkets.)

Can we get a hearts equivalent?

Oh yes this would be helpful for sure! :D

Tbh I would love this for all special currencies.

I know I'm going to be clearing out a lot of special currency wearables when I hit 15k, and while I would love to trade them for their respective currencies, that's not really plausible with larger amounts for a lot of them if there's nothing else I need from the shop :x

I don't support the idea of making this currency readily fungible, and I just bought a couple thou for use next year because I read to all my pets. Part of the fun of making different currencies is to increase participation.

Cog Trinkets are fungible only because there's two kinds of them. I've read hints that suggest that steamworks and lounge trinkets are going to be united, if this does happen I would want the bags to disappear there, too.

I have been hoping for this, or at least a way to buy each individual one for a while now. Especially since the genetech beanbags were introduced.

Hold on, you're against a feature that not only would have been helpful for you since you bought a couple thousand by hand from other users... Arguing that it makes people participate more. Going to ignore that by buying a couple thousand you literally void that argument ? You bought items to make it so you don't have to participate as much. But you're against that ? How do you not see the idiocy in that ? If these weren't already fungible, it would be like the quest shops where currencies are automatically placed in there and you cannot sell the actual currency, just the items. Hearts, however, you can get and hoard and sell outside of the shop. They're fungible. Your arguments are hilariously incorrect and go directly against your own actions. This is one of many reasons why you are not taken seriously.

The whole having different currencies thing? Straight from the owner's mouth.

? I don't see any contradiction. I think you aren't understanding money? Part of the game of Subeta is economic. Buying and selling is participating more. Making large batches allows for re-selling and makes things hard for the small user who doesn't have the large batches to sell. The subetan market is inefficient and always has been. When I describe efficiencies to real life young women in relation to Subeat, they don't like it much, so I'm betting this is intentional.

If there's an impediment to making a currency from large to small, or in acquiring large quantities of it, it's not really fungible. There is no fixed rate between sP and Candy Hearts.

My 'objection to participation' is specific and personal. I saw many colleagues and friends die before the proteaseinhibitors/reverse transcriptase inhibitors, volunteered for one of the first service centers here on the west coast, and was part of the first vaccine trial. I personally don't appreciate having to kiss zombies instead of just visiting their User Page. I try to stay uninfected if possible both in real life and in Subeta. I liked the holiday better when the kissing was only Achievements and the economics was not connected to sex work. It's not fun to me. My not wanting to participate in this particular holiday has nothing to do with currencies. Yes currency bags, it would benefit me to -not be able to participate- in this...but Subeta's not about helping people not participate in Subeta, is it? I can value Subeta and support actions that increas participation without participating in everything directly or loving all of it. For masquerade and trickortreat I'm totally in there and only buy extra currencies with sP because I really like the stuff and it looks like I can't afford it.

Subeta's just for fun. Who's taking who seriously?

many of Subeta's games seem to be there to increase refreshes. There are reasons they are doing this, I guess? I personally do not auto-refresh. Altering the game so that auto-refreshing is disallowed sounds good to me. I'm not sure what currency bags have to do with this.

Please tell me you did not just make a sexist comment

I try not to make sexist comments. I don't see where I have made one. I apologize right now to anyone in this thread for any sexist comment I have made and I will edit any once it has been explained to me. Right now, what it looks like to me based on what you have quoted, is that I have reported a real-life observation.

To me, this seems off-topic. Can you help me, preferably off-thread?

- It sounded like you were making a generalized statement about women being stubborn or dumb? I'm honestly having trouble following a lot of what you're saying, so I'm hoping it's just a communication barrier.

But in relation to the topic, making it easier to transfer currencies doesn't reduce participation. If anything it helps stimulate the economy, because buying up thousands of individual hearts is a huge task that I'm sure deters a lot of people.

An efficient economy is not in any way an automatic Good. Therefore someone who opposes them is not necessarily stupid or stubborn.

Aha thank you! Many real-life economies have introduced inefficiences due to compassion, fairness, truth and well.... sanity. These human foibles drive academic economists crazy.

In real-life I'm a hippie liberal and enjoy many of these features in my own home country. I think Subeta can be a fun site even with its odd toy economy, and in fact I make some of my sP based on this. You are correct, currency bags do make the economy more efficient. I'm not so sure this is a good thing.

boy that escalated quickly. comments aside;

I'm all for this honestly. i mean hell when you've bought all you've wanted from the shops and have left over currency ( be it from this year, the years prior, what have you. ) and have nothing to do but sit around collecting dust til next year, someone might just wanna grab a bag of them ( like with the trinkets) and send them to friends who haven't collected all they want yet, or sell them for a quick buck to someone who'll probably use them or what else have you.

I joined not too long before last masquerade and assumed that would be the same for all of the holiday currencies actually? kinda surprised it wasn't, it made sense to me to have that option.

The way I see it, when you turn in your currencies you're basically putting them into a special bank for that form of currency; weather it be the lounge or Louis shop or whatever. Why then would you not be able to withdraw from said bank? It's your money.

Wow, I tried reading through this thread and what the hell happened midway?

Personally I never bother throwing stuff in currencies (I'm always paranoid they'll be lost) but I remember Keith mentioning one time that he wanted most of the currencies to be locked in place once they've been in the vault.

I'll look for the quote. [edit]I found it a lot faster than I thought I would

The trinket bags were made so we could trade* the Lounge Trinkets for Steamworks Trinkets more easily. You get 50/100/250 Steamworks Trinkets. You buy them at 100/200/500 Lounge Trinkets.

I don't mind either way if a candy bag is made or not. It's just the trinket bags really weren't made so we could "withdraw" the trinkets.

*Some users (me included) were complaining about getting loads of Lounge Trinkets banked. It was taking forever to buy the Steamworks Trinket one at a time from the lounge when you had 500+ Lounge Trinkets you wanted to exchange.