PLEASE NOTE!!! DUE TO COMPLAINTS THAT ADDING POSES WOULD BE TOO MUCH WORK, I'VE BROKEN THIS DOWN INTO TWO SUGGESTIONS!

I've been kicking around some ideas to change up the Battle Coliseum. At this particular time, I'm only suggesting purely cosmetic changes that won't effect HOW the Battle Procedure actually functions.

PART ONE!

New Arena Backgrounds!

Here are TWO diagrams that will be useful for some to understand WHAT I am suggesting.

DIAGRAM A

DIAGRAM B

As you can see, I've broken the layout into several Figures. The ONLY portion I am suggesting changes to would be the area labeled Fig. 01 (a and b in the FIRST diagram)

I would very much enjoy seeing a bit more ART involved in these battles, possibly even a variety in the background areas such as is common in Fighting Games, such as Street Fighter or Mortal Combat.

Some of the Arena Styles that I look forward to some day seeing include: Sacred Sands (EXAMPLE SHOWN IN FIG. 01 of Diagram B) Sacred Ruins Shades of Terror (Shadowglen) Trouble in the City (Centropolis) ... Basically, A DEFAULT Arena for Each of the Lands of Subeta (and Atebus!)

There could even be Unlockable and Collectable Arenas! Polar Fields (Mama Mush) Cursed Pumpkin Patch (Rictus) And OTHERS that can be unlocked by battling/unlocking other Opponents!

As first pointed out by Walrus, All of the Pet Art have WHITE BACKGROUNDS which would have to be made TRANSPARENT (MAYBE) for the Backgrounds to work!

PART TWO!

Battle Poses!!!

I am NOT asking for full blown Battle Animations. That would be WAY too much work to ask for right up front. That having been said, I do think that different POSES could be used when the Opponents perform different actions. An Attack Pose A Casting Pose Status Poses (such as FROZEN or CURSED) And maybe even more!!!

I'm looking for other ideas to add to this, along with creative critiquing.

Please feel free to respond in any way that you think will serve the community as a whole in the best possible ways.

This Section will be edited as more ideas are born, suggested, or shot down. Please Stay Tuned.

Pets don't have transparent backgrounds, and neither do any of the battle opponents, so what you're proposing would mean at least retouching if not redoing all those pieces of art. Then the artists have to create even more art, and going forward have to draw each new opponent 2/3/4 times instead of just once.

I'm all for making the BC look nicer, but this definitely isn't the way to do it.

I don't see this being doable, as Walrus said all official Subeta art pets have white box borders, as do all opponents. Plus, it might make the page load longer, which would be killer for event battles like the Jaxon one we just had.

how would custom overlays factor into this though?

as for the arena backgrounds idea, the sheer amount of art that it'd take.. it just doesn't seem viable.

THAT, , is indeed a good question...

A few ideas would be: Use the Default Pet Image Use the CURRENT Battle Layout Use ONLY the Custom Overlay for that pet or Give the People with the Custom Overlays the option to do Custom Poses when submitting their Overlays.

If you have any other possible solutions for this issue, please feel free to suggest them on here! ^-^

using the default pet image would get a big no vote from me, I have custom overlays because I get to see them in the bc. :)

Yeah I don't really think we need to change anything in the BC that might add more lag. As cool as backgrounds would be, I don't think they're necessary considering the sheer amount of art that would have to be altered just to add them in, and personally I don't like the idea of battle poses much, aside from the massive amount of art that that would take.

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Your concerns have been noted.

I do not see how simply adding a background COULD increase lag in any SIGNIFICANT way. But I do agree that it is an issue that ought to be taken into consideration none the less.

Another way around the issue would be to have an option under preferences that allowed users to make a choice as to whether they would have the Default (current) Battle Coliseum or the Enhanced (backgrounds) version show up for them.

(PLEASE NOTE!!! I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME READERS WILL FEEL THAT GIVING USERS THIS OPTION WILL BE VIEWED AS OVERKILL OR SOME OTHER COMPLAINT)

It's an extra thing that has to load. During battle events especially, when there are a thousand users online trying to use the Coliseum at the same time, any additional lag just isn't worth it imo. And I doubly don't see it being worth it as an option, since most battlers will probably turn it off and then the artists went through the trouble to do these backgrounds and make every single pet + color combination (AND the battle opponents) transparent to fit with the backgrounds, and then no one will see them.

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Wasnt there a thread like this where the guy basically "offered" to recode the BC pokemon style?

not that no one values your opinion, but there are more fundamental issues with the BC that need resolving first. The aesthetics part can come later.

multiple default sets scroll armory some sort of pylonics/potinos armory BQ revamp stat cap changes (soon) new weapons that focus on build speed being more useful etc..

EDIT: the frozen stuff sounds doable. Doesnt pokemon just basically draw an ice cube over the pokemon. They could probably overlay something like that, doesnt have to be too fancy. Plus, they'd just have to draw it once.

That is a terrible idea. I don't want the coli to be pretty, I want the coli to not be a grind fest

That is a terrible idea. I don't want the coli to be pretty, I want the coli to not be a grind fest

Melaka got a custom overlay SPECIFICALLY because I battle with her most, and I don't like the new tigrean art. So I would boil with rage if they were set to default images.

Yes, yes, yes. Especially Scroll Armory, man.

Also that one guy was trying to push for animations "like Pokemon", this at least is a little more sensible (but I still don't support it).

I don't see how poses could even work because challengers basically use random combinations of weapons. They don't have different stances like that. It's the same for our pets. I just don't think there's a practical way to do this without redesigning the coliseum from the ground up.

One thing that I think would be cool though is to have something special for when you or your opponent gets frozen. An overlay sort of thing like the Bottled Ice that just goes over the pet or challenger image. I think that would be do-able, but I don't know for sure.

[preview=Bottled Ice]

Arena backgrounds would be neat, but image transparency issues would get in the way, as others have said. Plus I don't know if Subeta has the resources for that.

I don't care for the backgrounds at all, but it would be interesting to see effects. Like others have said before like pkmn effects frozen and maybe other stuff.

I just don't think this is doable, and besides that I wouldn't really care to see it done. Even if there was no issues in the BC to work on already and even if it wouldn't add even the slightest bit of page load time at all, I still just wouldn't support it. There are already plenty of ways to denote curses and freezes and all that great stuff, we don't need to add an ice cube to the snow flake

No, I don't really think this is doable. Besides being really unimportant in the overall scheme of the BC it would take far too many resources and cause more problems than fix. I don't go to the BC to see poses and backgrounds I go to kick some ass and I would love to do it without the added lag. I would rather the artists focus on other more important things as well.

If they want to work on the BC how about an extra default weapons set or one that can be assigned to each pet. Now that would be useful.

Why is this even required?