I had an idea about the Pawn Shop.

I've been a part of the group and we did manage to clear the pawn shop for the achievement a couple months ago (go team!) However once we cleared it it filled up with junk again within a matter of days.

When the pawn is as full as it is right now, its difficult to find the items in a timely fashion when questing. I personally skip the pawn shop entirely even if its got an item cheaper than user/NPC shops because loading the pages bogs down my computer and sometimes I get the Blackmoon error/timed out error.

My idea is this: Once every three months (can be argued for 5-6, but I think 3 is fair), have the pawn shop clear completely. That way it not only are people able to get the achievement for visiting the pawn shop when its cleared, it also helps clear up the site of items just sitting around doing nothing but possibly bogging down the database.

I would love to hear feedback about this.

Actually they just changed that part of it at least - when you click on the Pawn Shop link in the Shop Search, it purchases the item directly! That change didn't seem to get much coverage for some reason - I think people are not as active on the forums since the change to the new format and not as many people saw the feedback thread(s).

Beyond that, this idea intrigues me. It seems like a great way to get rid of junk that's clogging up the servers. Maybe it could be like... a mini-site thing, like the Pawn Shop guy donates his 'unsold stock' every few months to charity? Or to Charity? (haha, Subeta pun) Kind of a cute way to make him a little less of a skeeze :P

I like that idea as well. I know that when we were clearing out the pawn sop there were stacks of over 20k items and a lot of us fragged the items to get them out of the way. Made it easier on everyone I think.

But the pawn shop does have so much junk in there that probably bogs down the database. :x

As for the pawn shop link automatically purchasing, that must be recently new because I tried to buy something last week and it had me go through every page. :x

yeah, I'm sure it does take a toll on the servers.

It's very new! It just happened this week :D

I like this idea, when the achievement was introduced the PS was auto cleared (as far I remember?), but after that it only got emptied because a LOT of people put in a LOT of effort to clear it up x: So basically it's not happening again unless everyone decides to work on it... which, for some reason, makes the achievement a lot harder than I think it was supposed to be? idk

Definitely support an autoclearing of the sP section once every few months c:

Edit: Love that we can buy things directly now! :D

Support! As the (albeit crappy) owner of the emptypawn group, I would love to see a better way for people to get the achievement than slaving away for weeks on end to clear out endless stacks of crap. To keep the achievement challenging, the clearings could be totally random and only happen sparingly.

I don't really care one way or another. It's no different than a bunch of junk items being in someone's shop. It's either going to be the cheapest and be bought or be more expensive and rot until it becomes the cheapest.

Though I do like Europa's idea ^^

The random auto-clearing would be even better.

Or ever if some items got cleared and the users cleared the rest would work too. :)

I'd like to see a better system but it should be done in a way that's fair to the users who put a lot of effort into the achievement previously.

I don't think all items should be cleared at once, I think it would take any difficulty from the achievement and make it a time-based thing. It would go from too hard and too expensive to easy and free.

I understand where you're coming from though, honestly, with pages and pages of pawn shop items the achievement is just awful for a single person to achieve, there need to be a change. But if it would just be like 'Visit the Pawn Shop at 00:00 at this day' and for the people who already worked and got it such an immense change would really not be taken very well. Of course 'I had it worse' is not an excuse for a positive change, but at least make it somewhat fair and let it still be a challenge.

Maybe it would be better if the items themselves had just an 'expiration date', that they would get automatically deleted after 24 hours? It would prevent the shop to have 20+ sites, make the achievement possible for a single person and a lot easier for a group of 'cleaners'.

What about a maximum amount of items the Pawn Shop can hold? It would get the achievement a somewhat set amount of sP that needs to be spend and the Pawn Shop wouldn't be overfilled. If the maximum is reached and you want to sell you have to buy something first? I don't think the Pawn Shop would have unlimited amount of shelfes and overall space. But I like the clearing idea more.

At very least I'd like to see the quantity. I missed a clearing of assumingly your group and cleared the one site that restocked until the next day myself for the achievement. The worst thing was that some items just had such a huge quantity and the items never seemed to disappear. It would just be helpful for the current situation though, and I think it needs to be changed some more.

I sometimes go in there and try to help it out when I feel I can make a difference, but it's a lot easier when there's a group of people trying to achieve it at the same time. I tried to find a forum post, but I haven't seen anything recently.

I think it would be nice if we could get more items into the Crystal Shop to encourage more fragging instead of users buying up underpriced items and dumping them in the Pawn Shop for quick cash. Perhaps adding an item cap into the PS would help, or putting useful small items in there that people would always want like the Magical Keepsake Box or a small pet booster. It seems like there's a much bigger underlying problem when ten thousand+ copies of one item exist onsite that nobody has any apparent use for.