Longcat is GONE. It has been removed from the site, and Draconis has taken it's place.


I'd like to take this time to issue an apology to you, the users. In the past month we have been handling a situation with multiple sites, over a silly 64x64 canvas filled with pixels. This was known to all of us as Longcat, and wasn't an important item on the site.


The item caused confusion, and most of all it caused controversy on Subeta, as well as outside of Subeta. We kept fighting for Longcat and Subeta in hopes that it would protect the users, and make Subeta appear strong, and able to find off any attack. Whatever you've been told, keeping Longcat was never about pride, it was about keeping the site safe from internet terrorists now, and in the future.


We weren't aware of the ability of one item to take down multiple fan-dedicated sites, and cause a legion of internet users to attack Subeta and it's users, not only on Subeta, but on other sites. We asked all users to change passwords, and make changes to their internet lives that could have been spared, had the item not been kept up.


Some will look at this as a loss for Subeta, while we are viewing it as a definite win. We are able to continue about our business and create fun, exciting new things for all of you to do, and you are able to play Subeta without worrying about what is lurking, and who is really your friend.


Again, we all apologize for any problems that you may have experienced in the past month due to this little group of pixels, and we hope that all of you keep playing Subeta. The site is about you, the users, and would be nothing without you. We also want to extend an apology to any community outside of Subeta that has been affected by this, including the communities we were having this problem with - all of the chans. Hopefully we can all move on to things that are more important :) We also apologize for any actions we took that may have provoked the chans, including taunting or pushing them to make sure they knew we weren't going to give up. All of this we accept as our fault, and we are apologizing to every party for.


Starting out the new features, is the Cult Revamp! Recoded to work much better, you can now create a cult and choose from a number of pre-made templates, which range from Angelic to Hydrus :)


We are leaving the comments on this post open, in hopes that everyone can play nice. We will disable that easy if need be.
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Edward
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They dont care how they act. They get what they want. They can get peoples addresses, credit card numbers, phone numbers. This wasnt just and internet war. They could seriously hurt you, not just your account. But they are being a bit unreasonable. The picture? Yesturday they werent demanding that. I doubt it will happen. I agree they need a better apology, but most are backing off. As I speak, though, they are taking names of people who still want longcat. Which is VERY bad.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Sophiten
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x.x My goodness. How can you compare them to terrorists. They didn't KILL anyone. To me, a terrorist is someone that kills. They were just being inforcers, trying to get done what THEY thought was right. They made things inconvient, but they were far from terrorists. IMO.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ahrtomus
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Gaaah! Why is my previous post blank?! O:

@ MissXami = They call themeselves internet terrorists, and really this is a bit of terrorism, they -did- frighten people on this and other sites. Sad to see the Longcat go, only because we were not wrong to have it. I Supported Subeta when they were fighting for it, and I support Subeta now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Orlais
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I did love my longcat, but it's ok.

I'm happy that this matter was finally solved. Thanks Keith, I really mean it, you handeled this in a very mature manner. I respect that.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by DebiLee
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Can I be honest here? I seriously had never heard of any "chan" prior to this; when I first saw the item I had thought that it was a parody item from an old Monty Python sketch that I had seen long ago.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coronaviridae
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Despite common opinion to the contrary, Bush does not control the mass media, which are the brainwashers of youth in this country.

That aside, their behavior is like terrorism in method and intent--making a population frightened enough to submit to their wills. Bullying by any other name, sure, but it was organized enough to have strong parallels with the actual modus operandi of terrorist organizations.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

((quick note incase any of you are mixed up. 420 chan: total loserness. they were the ones that went crying to the other chans claiming subeta attacked their bandwidth, when it broke on its own)) I think its great that subeta is being mature and letting anon have its little kitty. people were getting hurt, its not like there was any other choice.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Pandora
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Thank GOODNESS. That item was sooo stupid. Blehhhh. I love the dragon though. And finally I don't have to fear being porn-bombed in the forums! Sweet life.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by styn
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Well, the fact is, I don't think Subeta took the idea of Longcat on purpose. Draconis is cool though. And I seriously don't like how everyone seems to be complaining. Longcat was cool, but we should learn to embrace change.
There's are different ways of change though. And with them come different ways of embracing them. A simple revamp is different from what is going on here.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coronaviridae
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Serves you right for taking an idea that wasn't yours.

Especially taking it from a board that's all about taking ideas that didn't belong to the posters in the first place.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by JoAnna_119
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smail what? The story? If the mods dont mind, I'll happily type it here. It'll make me feel better about, anyway. As for people disagreeing... I dont think they know everything about 420. I really wish they did.

I know absolutely nothing about them. First time I ever heard anything about a chan site 420 7 5 2 whatever they are was during the giveaway. Its all kind of confusing really to see how some site could have so much power to completely destroy everything on another site other then basically spamming. =/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ahrtomus
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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by MissXami
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Erm, I'd just like to say there's a pretty big difference between terrorists and bullies, as you people keep using the word terrorists.

Gotta love Bush for brain washing the youth of America with this Terrorists crap. Everybody's evil but us. Unfortunately, everyone has skeletons in their closet, and at this point, I dont think any side is better than the other.

/i/, as I read, is short for /i/nsurgent or /i/nvade I guess. But I wouldn't really call them terrorists. Were our lives put in danger? Not really. Unless you were 'smart' enough to put any kind of personal information on the internet, you were safe. Yeah the pictures were REALLY gross at times.

I never once felt threatened. I don't need high risk internet security, only common sense.

I'm not starting a debate, just stating my two cents. Is this war over? I dont know. They dont seem 100% pleased. But I'm glad that Keith was at least willing to take down long cat. It's a step in a long process to rebuilding. Everything will start to work out. In a few months we'll look back on this, but we'll move on.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coronaviridae
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The story, but post it here too, if you'd like. Truth can't hurt.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by NYX
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Well, the fact is, I don't think Subeta took the idea of Longcat on purpose.

Draconis is cool though. And I seriously don't like how everyone seems to be complaining. Longcat was cool, but we should learn to embrace change.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

they finnaly got rid of the long cat. good they were getting on my nerves!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by DebiLee
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A large percentage of the users (real longterm users, not trolls, etc.) have said that the poll was done prematurely, and had they known what they know now, their votes would have been different. How would anonymous poll results be any more accurate than actual posts and comments by users?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Picopepin
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Well yea thats the people Im not too happy with Stijn xD The people who want it just cause its cutesy. Dear mother god theres lyke.. 4769846 other cute items. (Like I said though Im not speaking in terms of morale and whose winning and reputation, whats right and whats not right)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by styn
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">It's slightly... ironic, isn't it, Debilee? No matter what you do, the vast majority of users aren't happy, even after he does something they asked him to do. o-o
when trying to conclude the vast majority's opinion without a concrete method like a poll, you are always going to see that what youare expecting to see..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Edward
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smail what? The story? If the mods dont mind, I'll happily type it here. It'll make me feel better about, anyway. As for people disagreeing... I dont think they know everything about 420. I really wish they did.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by styn
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Im shocked Subeta users are SO furious about one item. (beyond the story and morals so dont you dare bite me) I mean.. what if we got in a war about the blood balls or something? =/ Who would miss em?
whether its longcat or blood balls is irrelevant. while the cutesy factor does weigh in for many of the users (not trying to generalise but im pretty sure you know what type of people i mean), the big issue is that someone is attacking and beligerating subeta and we should not back down.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coronaviridae
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I'm surprised everyone's buying into the fact that this was entirely about Longcat, too.

But hey, it's not like the *chans ever use full disclosure except to sow dissent.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Araunas.. shakes head

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Serves you right for taking an idea that wasn't yours.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Poisonous_809
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It's slightly... ironic, isn't it, Debilee?

No matter what you do, the vast majority of users aren't happy, even after he does something they asked him to do. o-o

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by AraunasGirl
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Okaaaay, so there were hundreds of posts in the News comments before and the Longcat sticky which said please, at least just try it, so Keith does what the users posting have been saying all along to at least try, and people still evidently aren't satisfied. shakes head
many have also said that its few that disagree, and those that dissagree just happen to be very loud about it. You'd know more of them then I would but the ones I saw saying "just try it" arent here.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by JoAnna_119
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Okaaaay, so there were hundreds of posts in the News comments before and the Longcat sticky which said please, at least just try it, so Keith does what the users posting have been saying all along to at least try, and people still evidently aren't satisfied. shakes head

-blinkblink- Well what /exactly/ do they want. Aside from some stupid picture. If this doesnt make them happy I'm sure no picture would either.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Picopepin
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Im shocked Subeta users are SO furious about one item. (beyond the story and morals so dont you dare bite me) I mean.. what if we got in a war about the blood balls or something? =/ Who would miss em?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by styn
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debi, the forums are not an accurate representation of subeta's population.

the best way to poll the subetan population is by means of a poll. not by sideways scanning the forum posts.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by AraunasGirl
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">2chan created it, and it spread into the chans and became their god. I guess I can see it in their way: If some site had a 'Jesus' item that you wore, peopel woudl get angry. And 420 is a loyal, insanely loyal, to their cats. They even have a holiday. Caturday.
And they call us furries?

Anyone want this dumb dragon? I was gonna keep it for the off chance it ever becomes a longcat again but to hell with it I'll just buy a new one if it does.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coronaviridae
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Linxy--smail me if you would?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by DebiLee
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Okaaaay, so there were hundreds of posts in the News comments before and the Longcat sticky which said please, at least just try it, so Keith does what the users posting have been saying all along to at least try, and people still evidently aren't satisfied. shakes head

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I was stubborn at first. I voted to keep. But now I'm like HELLS NO GET ME OUT OF HERE coward

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by JoAnna_119
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I only glanced at the chan site, stopped after a comment detailing all the things wrong with subeta, odly enough the first was keiths orientation which has nothing to do with anything. Then went onto stealing images and cults and whatnot. Other then that I only know what I've seen here on subeta and a brief chat with "friends of a friend" on msn. Which basically was them telling me the same thing I saw on the thread.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Edward
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I know most of the story, both sides. But I feel uncomfortable to post it here.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Picopepin
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Terrorism is getting really old Irl and not.. Whut happen to good days?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Edward
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2chan created it, and it spread into the chans and became their god. I guess I can see it in their way: If some site had a 'Jesus' item that you wore, peopel woudl get angry. And 420 is a loyal, insanely loyal, to their cats. They even have a holiday. Caturday.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ChaosRocket
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We gave in to terrorists, I think it was a horrible decision. Now they think they can demand whatever they want of anyone and it will just be done.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by styn
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i voted to keep the cat even before the poll. i knew what the chans were capable of, yet i was willing to sacrifice my account to stand up against them.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Kukusaie
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i like the dragon, its perfect for my collection.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by AraunasGirl
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jojo everyone knows its not copywritten and its not theres they don't care they say its theres and just cause its not it wont stop them.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

It's not copyrighted at all. But it doesn't matter because they will kill us all D; hides under desk

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by styn
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longcat is not actually copyrighted.

that said, now this is all over. can we atleast get some concrete information from keith (that is backed up by the chans) about what really happened? not just what we saw, but what happened.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rayney_Night
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I am kind of upset about this myself. Basically we gave in to the terrorists and now I have neither my gaia account (with over 50mil in items) nor my longcat. I'm not going to bad-mouth Keith, he did what he thought he needed to do, but it still upsets me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by JoAnna_119
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... what credit card numbers? I've bought things from the cash shop before. What numbers were stolen. I heard nothing about this.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Coronaviridae
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It isn't copyrighted; it isn't even theirs to begin with. But there you go.

Retarded internet war is retarded.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Poisonous_809
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To those who dislike the Dragonis:

Then don't keep them. No one's telling you to wear them, or keep them. Or do anything with them at all. o-o'

On another note;

I voted to keep it even after hearing everything about what was going on. I'm... Naturally stubborn, you could say. x_X Although I do admit that I was.. Slightly worried.

But I am glad that all of this is mostly taken care of, and feel for those who have, well, suffered. I can only imagine what it must feel like to be targeted. :c -snuggles everyone-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Mav
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hmm, wow..I really don't know what to think about this. All that stuff, all that fighting, the harrassment, everthing, just to give in and take the longcat off the site? Sheesh. Coulda just freakin done that in the first place then and saved alot of people the trouble...

Eh, glad it's finally over I guess..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by JoAnna_119
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To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin: The man who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither and will lose both.

I'm curious though. Is the longcat actually copyrighted or anything. They claim the image is theirs and its pretty much not being argued. I know that if any pets or whatnot from this site was stolen it would be a serious issue with the owners and staff. Just curious why its not? If that makes sense. It made sense when I was thinking it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I understand that you guys want longcat back and hate the "stupid dragon". But you obviously do not understand the power of 420chan. They would have eventually taken Subeta down for good.

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