Quest Shop: Pride Sashes

August 12, 2018, 6:55 pm by

Love these <3 THANKS

June 30, 2018, 1:26 pm by

Man, I'll always wish the lesbian flag wasn't so pink but more power to those that like it. still, always here for getting decked out in rainbow/pride flags :D

June 29, 2018, 7:42 pm by

I am lovin' all of these! Super bummed out I missed out on Pride parade :( Also whoever anon gifted me the Ace one thank you ;u;

June 29, 2018, 9:44 am by

Whew, the heteros being dramatic need to cool down.

Good job on these and thank you.

June 29, 2018, 1:23 am by

that particular flag is a joke, yeah. there are other versions that i think people made in actual sincerity which is... yikes...

June 29, 2018, 12:24 am by

I knew your mock offense at the sapio flag not being included was a joke, but is the flag itself a joke too? I googled images for sapio and got both results. I know a couple of others have more than one flag design option, so i thought this was just an alternative. I'm glad if it isn't real, it truly is a hideous thing.

June 28, 2018, 11:19 pm by

I. Love. These.

Super sad not to see a genderqueer/genderfluid flag as that's a pretty common one too. And I understand a demisexual one would be tough and it's the same colors as ace. Ah well. I need all of them just because they are all so pretty. (It's funny for pride I wore my rainbow and trans flag as a sash lol)

June 28, 2018, 10:25 pm by

See, the problem here is that you seem to think that "being mean" and "being murdered" are the same thing. No, you are not actually discriminated against and face no danger for being straight! Even if one time some nebulous lesbians that DEFINITELY exist were mean to you in their safe space one time. Plus, straight girl hanging out at the gay bar for her drag queen friends, but will interpret a lesbian being mean to them as LITERAL discrimination and hatred in a complete false equivalence? That sounds like a hag to me. We're not your fashion accessories, hunty!! We are real people, not Pokémon to collect and brag about, and we stand together in the face of... whatever nonsense you're spouting.

TL;DR: No, being mean to you is not the same thing as the literal actual murder and violence that the LGBTQIA community faces every day just for existing and conflating the two things is incredibly privileged of you.

June 28, 2018, 9:58 pm by

the straight pride flag is one of those dreadful "game over" wedding t-shirts, there, y'all happy now because that is peak Heterosexual Culture

either that or a picture of a crying white baby

these sashes are Good tho and i'm looking forward to seeing more pride items on the site, perhaps some handheld flags or border ribbons or something to that effect :>

June 28, 2018, 9:29 pm by

I'm so happy there's a lesbian sash!!!

June 28, 2018, 12:01 pm by

So you went into a LGBT bar, got approached by a bisexual or lesbian woman and then you act offended when she gets upset? She had every right to be upset that you were a straight person in an establishment for LGBT people when it's no secret that this is a problem that's been going on for yeaaaars. You may have been there to support your friends but it's not really something you have a right to be offended about when you're mistaken for a woman interested in women and someone rightly expresses their frustration to find yet another straight woman in a LGBT space.

If you don't understand that fundamental problem where straight women (and even men) are using LGBT establishments for their own selfish personal reasons (women to avoid flirting men on a night out and men looking for women to hit up without competition) then you really are what's wrong with the world. You could have just as easily apologized to the woman and said you were just there to support your drag queen friends instead of "No thanks, I'm straight" which would rightly annoy someone given where you are.

June 28, 2018, 6:17 am by

lets not forget that one time a bunch of people storming out of a van with "down with cis" shirts beated you up. rough times!

June 28, 2018, 2:59 am by

Eeeeee, I'm so happy to see these! Excited to get my hands on a bi sash eventually. I'm glad we can come here to feel accepted! Even the people complaining about labels or ranting about straight pride are only a small part of the community.

June 28, 2018, 2:26 am by

For those of you who claim heteros are not discriminated against are dead wrong. I have had insults hurled at me for being straight. I have been told "People like me are whats wrong with the world" just because I refused a chicks advances and politely told her that I am straight. This has happen on more than one occasion. I was beaten and in the hospital for three days recovering from my injuries all because I refused to join in with a group of chicks. I was in a bar supporting some friends of mine who are Drag Queens, they were entered into a contests to see who was the most attractive, flamboyant, and many other categories. I know this may not happen everywhere, but it is out there.

June 28, 2018, 12:23 am by

Thank you for including Ace. It cheered me up.

June 27, 2018, 9:02 pm by

omg. Thank you Quentin. And thank you staff! I wonder if I can pull together a lesbian pride HA, the colors are so specific...

June 27, 2018, 6:40 pm by

YES YES YES.

(maybe stickers next? ;o;)

June 27, 2018, 6:25 pm by

Love these. Thank you!

June 27, 2018, 6:07 pm by

oh gosh, seeing these are making me weirdly emotional?? just yeah thanks subeta, appreciate it. <3

June 27, 2018, 5:49 pm by

It is a relief to realize what/who you are. Your message was very supportive. :) Thank you.

June 27, 2018, 5:42 pm by

Thanks for the ace sash, Pride Fairy!

June 27, 2018, 5:18 pm by

That's another reason labels are important. I am incredibly proud and vocal about being a lesbian because I spent years miserable trying to force myself to date men because society made me feel like I had to be attracted to men. Bi was an easier label because I was still "normal" and liked men. Finally realizing I was a lesbian was the biggest relief in my life and it means everything to me as a personal label.

June 27, 2018, 5:15 pm by

Yeah I know a lot of older lgbt people who things were like that. And even with bi I still know a lot of older gay people who are definitely bi but because of old more common negative connotations either call themselves gay or straight depending on who they are currently dating. One girl I knew in high school who was 3 years older than me finally came out as bi. I knew she was when we dated because she told me she liked to do things with men, but then told me not to tell anyone because she was a lesbian. Funnily enough she went from being lesbian to bi and I went from thinking I was bi for years to realizing internalized homophobia and heteronormativity made me think I was attracted to men and that I was actually a lesbian.

June 27, 2018, 3:52 pm by

I don't want to jump too much into this discussion, but I did want to say - if labels aren't important to you - then cool. That's fine! But there's quite a bit of difference in saying "I don't personally need labels to define myself/my identity" versus saying that in an objective manner for everyone else. (I.e. saying something like "labels aren't important.") Because to some people, those labels are really important. It can be incredibly comforting to have words to describe and express how we're feeling, and in turn to educate and/or spread awareness that these feelings are actually rather normal in a world that treats us like we're abnormal / wrong to just exist.

It also helps individuals who are questioning themselves in figuring out/coming to an understanding of their own identity. Having terms/labels to actually discuss and solidify an idea is absurdly helpful - I wish I'd known about some of these terms when I was younger; it sure would have made a great many things so much less confusing! And it's really nice knowing you're not alone, and that there are others like you out there. Pride is such a lovely way of building that community for those of us who have struggled with our identities and sexualities. So - wearing your identity "on your sleeve" so to speak is very important for some of us. And being able to exist openly without fear of backlash - even if it's just expressing that on a "pixel" site* - is really quite a relief. There's very few safe spaces for people like us, which is another reason people are pointing out that hetero/cis individuals don't need representation / a celebration. I hope that makes sense!

And I'm going to point out, this "pixel" site may BE the only place some of us can really express who we are without a negative reaction (and even then, the comments of this one news post have had a lot of discourse about the subject, but at least no-one's actually likely to have physical violence directed at them here, or so I'd hope). I know for a fact the community/state/location that I personally live in is EXTREMELY hostile towards members of the LGBT+ community. So please, just let us have our fun in a place where we can actually HAVE fun and be ourselves.

TL;DR - If it's something that isn't important to you, that's understandable. Everyone has different things that are a focal point to them. But to say it can't be important to anyone else is where it starts to cross a line into a territory of being rude/hurtful. The only person that can define what is and isn't important to an individual is that individual - no one has the right to determine that for someone else. So please be respectful of that and keep that in mind if labels/pride celebration aren't personally important to you. Thank you. ♥

(As an added note - none of this is meant to be aggressive in any form. I sincerely hope I've conveyed my words in a way that will not offend/distress! I hope everyone has an exceedingly lovely day, regardless of your gender/orientation/identity/etc.!) ♥♥

June 27, 2018, 12:34 pm by

it's a joke, it's supposed to be as ugly as possible because sapiosexuality is an ugly concept lmao.

the origin story

June 27, 2018, 11:19 am by

I think it is wonderful to have so many words to explain who you are. When I was growing up, all I knew was gay and straight. It left me feeling that I was just weird since I couldn't even explain to myself what I was. Still trying to own being demisexual. I am encouraged that there are so many different ways to be.

June 27, 2018, 10:32 am by

Please stop with the no labels thing. I had someone try to tell me they didn't like labels in response to me saying I was a lesbian. I'm glad labels are pointless to you but lesbian is part of identity not some arbitrary thing that I should just push aside. And yes there's a reason to talk about our identities and be proud of them when we live in a world where people discriminate against us and deny our identities every day. Yes, everyone should be treated the same regardless of who or what they are, but they aren't, so acting like because you think this should be the way means it is that way and pride and labels aren't needed is ridiculous.

June 27, 2018, 10:27 am by

Much like the whole "All Lives Matter" movement, I'm gonna go ahead and say that if you aren't in danger of being killed just for walking down the street then you don't need a pride flag. or a movement.

If you want to show people you're a straight white male, throw on a polo shirt, some cargo shorts and boat shoes. Problem solved.

June 27, 2018, 10:02 am by

Thank you subeta for being brave and making these for us. We love you for loving us the way we are. Your support is important!!

June 27, 2018, 5:56 am by

I'm cis het and think theses sashes are a wonderful addition to the site. One suggestion, though. Perhaps Quentin could say that cis het users could put them on their HA's to show support for users in the other groups. If the majority of users in the other groups don't like this idea, how about having a support variation with the sashes hanging down on the opposite side?

June 27, 2018, 5:20 am by

Being bisexual does not negate the fact that what you're saying is just plain wrong.

June 27, 2018, 5:20 am by

Being bisexual does not negate the fact that what you're saying is just plain wrong.

June 27, 2018, 4:25 am by

ACE SASH! Yay!

June 27, 2018, 4:05 am by

You can be so all you want but you are still fundamentally wrong.

June 27, 2018, 3:57 am by

I am openly Bi. Do not treat me like I know nothing.

Good day to you.

June 27, 2018, 3:50 am by

As an asexual whose therapist and colleagues (I'm a medical student, mind you) say that asexuality is "abnormal" - the inclusion of the asexual flag means so much has to me.

from a biromantic asexual

June 27, 2018, 2:55 am by

It made me super giddy to see this news post and I bought up my relevant flags immediately <3 Also if there's ever a plan to expand, personally I'd love a genderqueer sash, I notice them left out quite often. No obligation though, of course!

June 27, 2018, 2:43 am by

Just gonna drop this and make my exit.

June 27, 2018, 2:41 am by

It is not my job to educate you. Please believe me when I tell you, your assessment of this is WAY off base. Please listen to the people here who are doing the hard work to explain why, or ask GLBT loved ones in your life, or search the internet. If you are at university, ask your professors. Please educate yourself, because GLBT people are suffering and dying, and more straight people need to be allied in working for true liberation* for everyone.

*Straight people are already liberated. But can GLBT people, polyamourous people, asexuals, nonbinary people live and work in all areas of their lives -- ALL over North America -- while being out, holding the hand of their partner or presenting in nonconforming gendered ways without being harassed, attacked, threatened? Please think deeply about this for a long time, and do some research into this. It will be illuminating.

This will be my last response to you. Good luck.

June 27, 2018, 2:40 am by

Words cannot describe how happy I am that the ace pride colors are available as a sash! ♥ I feel like ace tends to get left out a lot

June 27, 2018, 2:40 am by

Words cannot describe how happy I am that the ace pride colors are available as a sash! ♥ I feel like ace tends to get left out a lot

June 27, 2018, 2:33 am by

Yet again, LGBT+ people who have been discriminated, murdered, criminalized, hounded and got their issues turned a blind eye towards from cis and hetero people having 1 month out of a YEAR to celebrate themselves, and how far we've become is not discrimination. The rest of the year will continue as it is, poor straight people don't have to remember that people other than them exist and that they had a tantrum over not being included in the group of people they've tried to stomp out for the last few centuries.

The reason there's LGBT bars and clubs and the like is because we literally get assaulted and harassed in normal bars and clubs. The LGBT ones are there as safe places so we can have some place of solidarity among us. Nobody would give a shit about someone making a club for heteros only bc that's essentially what your normal clubs are already.

That is not """"hetero discrimination""" get the hell over yourself.

June 27, 2018, 2:19 am by

What all the other people have been either trying not to say or imply it in a much nicer way, is that the arsehole you keep mentioning? Right now that person happens to be you. You know, entirely regardless of your labels, or identity, or whatever :)

Good day to you too.

June 27, 2018, 2:18 am by

There IS a such thing as discrimination against heteros...

So hetero people do not deserve a pride sash because they are not discriminated against... lol? They should not be proud of what they are too? THAT is discrimination right there. This is how things start, by one group of people deciding another is less deserving, different, etc.

A parallel: it is OK to have LBGQ clubs but if someone wanted to form a club for heteros that would cause an outcry.

I thought we were fighting for equality, not supremacy.

June 27, 2018, 1:52 am by

For the record, I'm bi and I agree with . There is no such thing as hetero discrimination, lol. That is the world standard and GLBT people are brutalized the world over for not conforming. Pride is about celebrating our "deviancy" and "otherness" as something to be proud of, not ashamed of. Straight people have no need of that validation -- it is everywhere in our society already.

June 27, 2018, 1:51 am by

And I echo those who would like for these to be stackable or for other Pride items to come along so that people can wear more than one flag at once, either because they identify as more than one thing or because they're allies.

June 27, 2018, 1:51 am by

can't we just be done with this already

The reason why the hetero flag isn't included is because Pride is not about "celebrating everyone/all love". Pride is specifically to celebrate minorities who have had to fight for their right to be proud of who they are. There is no such thing as discrimination against straight people, because lgbt people do not wield the power to discriminate or systematically oppress heterosexual folks. Not being included is in no way a slight against straight people. Straight Pride is associated most of the time with anti-lgbt movements anyway, and asking for it to be included in Pride is tone deaf at best.

The hetero flag isn't necessary because 11 months a year is Straight Pride. There simply is no need for that.

Straight people can participate as allies, but it's not about them, and if they do make it about them and throw in the "but what about us!" -card, it begs to question why are they there in the first place.

June 27, 2018, 1:50 am by

"Hetero Pride" is not a thing because people aren't denied basic human rights for being hetero. "Pride" exists as a fight for human rights; it's not about saying "Boy being non-cishet is amazing!"

The fact that some people don't get that proves why there's no need for "hetero pride." It's not discrimination. Just be glad you don't need it.

June 27, 2018, 1:48 am by

Well those people are the type the world could do without. My biggest problem with that sort is why does it matter so much to them. I'm a live and let live sort. If you are an arsehole doesn't matter what identity you wear, you are still an arsehole. The reverse is true also.

I don't care what/who you do or not do. If you are good person then that is all that matters.

No I was referring to how you treat others not that people without legs should be expected to climb stairs. Frankly that is ridiculous and it seems you are going out of your way to piss me off.

I'm done with this. Have a great day everyone.

June 27, 2018, 1:37 am by

the sapiosexual flag i am familiar with is different. That one is hideous, i must say. Who thought that was a good idea?

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