Darkmatter Dragarth and Montre Revamps

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

: thanks for mentioning that. I totally thought there was an add-on for it in firefox but I couldn't think of the name...but I was thinking of that same suggestion. I'm glad you said it!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

If you're really so ridiculous that you cannot stand to look at this DM montre ever again because it ruins your life, you can get "My Image Here" for Firefox to replace the image everywhere. I use it because I love my pets' overlays so much. inb4 BUT I DON'T USE FIREFOX just trying to help cut down on future complaining...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

KERamita

Overlays only make it so OTHERS see your pet that way. How often do you Honestly stare at your pets page. No how often do you go into your pets section, or train a pet, or battle a pet, or check a pet into a resort. Or look at your user page ( a lot of people use the head shot feature) Or edit pet treasures, Look at the battle pet widget in your side bar. The REAL image is a lot more places in the owners face then an overlay. So If someone already has the pet doesn't like the new look why not voice it. Voicing opinions is the only way to hope for change anyway. ( therehas been instances were users were heard and recolors have been modified)

i know some took it to far with the name calling but a lot of people had very god criticisms like how the 'personality' of the pet changed or how the head looks large and even offered tips and pointers and some even drew or hand changed it to show examples.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Dont like that montre, at all The art isnt bad, but the essence is so much different...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

@ Tiara

Yeah...it looks as though the wings are almost swallowing the poor Montre up XDDD LOL! But you're still a good artist :D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm not a HUGE fan of the Montre, but I can appreciate the more subtle changes that went into the revamp, like the way the light of the aura reflects off the Montre. It gives it a more realistic feel. The Dragarth looks a little more sleek, which imo is good, but there's something in the overall attitude of the Dragarth that got lost in the process of revamping it. Still, though, both the Montre and the Dragarth have their good and not-so-good aspects of having been revamped.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

lol really? I actually thought they weren't big enough in my sketch! ...Maybe I'm just a big-wings-lover. :)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

No, I think your wings are far too big. They look way over-proportioned

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't get why so many people are complaining. I mean... that's what the overlay option is for.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The new ones both look just so squishy :/ I don't know how else to really put it, kind of chubby, all of the lines are rounded, none are really straight or sharp

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm not really a fan of the new DM montre. It's body is great, and I love the wings, but the head just looks off to me. Also the old one looks so much more menacing, and I really liked that about it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Or are you down for censoring where you're only allowed to give your opinion if it's positive feedback toward something?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

You not comprehending made my day. My comment towards Stylish was because she's telling everyone who does not like the revamps to shut up. It had nothing to do with the damn Montre.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

While artistically the new montre is gorgeous, when compared to the attitude of the old one I'm really glad I got my overlay is of the old style and not the new or I'd have to find a new color for princessa

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Okay, so here is a quick sketch I did of a DM Montre... I know my style is rather different from Subeta's, but anatomy-wise, I would have liked to see something like this instead...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Quote by Syn

just because we aren&;t kissing staff&;s bums we aren&;t allowed to voice our opinions? Nice, you know where else they have that? Korea.

LOOOL that made my day. Blowing pet site art out of proportion much?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well, at least now I can stop planning on getting a Darkmatter Potion for my montre (unless I do as I did with my paralix and store it in her treasure, for a different reason... though they have overlays anyway) Looking at the comparison pics in the reviews alowed me to figure out that it was the head that bugged me, at least. Why is it so large and squishy looking? Mostly the fact that it's head is so big... is really awkward to me.

Whilst the updates aside from that are effectively fine... I feel that without the angular look of the old ones something was lost... I don't know. The artist definitely did a good job, but something in the expression change (Daragarth from angry to annoyed, montre from smug superiority to... anxiety? unsureness?), and something in the loss of pointy/edgy/angularity/-ness just seems to detract from the overall . And the montre's head (maybe it's because I spent so long trying to get it right for mine's overlay. Coyote skulls EVERYWHERE @`-@) (and I uh guh Why are the eyes of that one enormous Dark Matter the same size?) Then, finally, I'll go to the fact that no matter how well done the wings of the both are (which is really quite well, very nice)... the montre's back wing is... bent. Towards the montre. And I'm just... have you ever tried to make that angle with your wrist? I can't- I can understand a wing, being a slightly different wrist setup, might be able to go slightly futher than 90%, but... not like that (certainly they can in one direction, at least, considering the need to actually be able to fold their wings when not in flight, but still... like that? I...)

Also, in realation to those earlier posts that mentioned it, I'd like to point out that a lack of comments if it were the serepenth that was updated rather than the montre would probably be due to shock over anything else. How long ago did half of it's forms get done, even indicates vast contrast between majority of Special Form serepenths and Basic Form ones?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hm...I like the new DM Montre, but I like the old DM Montre's eyes. It gave him that 'I don't care what you think' look

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the main thing for me is that I have always viewed the montre as being much more "angular" which is why some of the revamps catch me off guard! (since they look more squishy/smoothed over now). It's all a matter of preference though.

Yay revamps either way haha ❤️.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the revamps! I'm very tempted to get a Darkmatter Dragarth now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I actually like both of these updates (Dragarth especially).

Some constructive criticism: right now on the new Montre it looks almost as if the right ear (its right ear) is layered over the head. If you trimmed the ear a bit and moved it behind the head, the head would look smaller and sleeker and overall, I think, give it a more grown up look. I like how it have a long snout - I think the one on the old Montre looked pretty weird (at an odd angle). ;) The legs could have been a little longer and/or a little thinner to give the effect of feminine thinness that the old one had, and the paws could be thinner as well, although they do look more professionally drawn than the previous ones. I like the wings of the old Montre better. Well, to be more specific, I liked how they were /positioned/, and they were short so they didn't cover up have of the body like these new ones do. I love their detail and purple tips, though. ^^ Some other quick things I would change on the Montre are... to maybe move the eyebrow up a bit, do something different with the neck (I don't know what it is, but it looks a little weird to me), and maybe make the fur the lighter color that it was before so that it contrasts more with the wings. :)

The Dragarth is such an improvement, though! :D I'm happy about it, even though I don't like Dragarths in general. I would only change a few things: make the mouth into more of a frown so it matches the eyes and their expression more, change the angle of the first horn a bit so it's more in line with the head, and change how the front paws are, so that it actually looks like the Dragarth is putting some weight on them.

Overall, I really love the art and I'm pretty damn envious of your coloring skills. ;-; Also, I'm pretty sure artists look more for constructive criticism (naming your opinion and helping them improve their art) than just raw opinions. I'm also pretty sure that's what the site encourages. If you don't like it, you're free to express your opinion, but I don't think "FAIL." helps an artist improve much.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the new Montre. I know I'll get shot for this, but the old one looked emancipated. And the angle of the front arm was off, or at least the shading made it look that way. C: I'm definitely getting one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I actually like that a lot more. The head still looks 'chihuahua' like with how domed it is but the nose looks and how roud it all is but its better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I did like, however, you taking that extra bit of chest fur away, but it really doesn't bother me one way or the other XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

That's fine you don't have to like it, I just did it quick to show how the anatomy is wonky.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well, whether you like the new art for these two pets or not, I am almost positive that that's the way they're going to stay, despite any kind of suggestion to change either of them. I hate to be a hard ass, but it's the truth shrugs

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Your version of the new Montre makes it look too cute, really :/ I don't like it nearly as much, sorry to say. The new version put out by the artist looks a lot better

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

we're not complaining about change. We are just doing a little quality control ;)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The Montre's body and wings are great, but the face is very, very iffy for me. It looks really off. The Dragarth is also kind of 'meh' for me too.

Not really a fan of either, but I'm sure there are people who really do like them. I just find it sad that there were pets who needed the revamp way more than these two. But, whatever. What's done is done.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sometimes I laugh at how hard it is for people to accept change.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really do like the improvements, if staff would take them into consideration I'd keep my montre c: Funny how some small changes could make such a big difference.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

jbdwqilbewfipuwfipwbef So tired of the DM updates. First my beloved kumos, now my montre. My favorite pets are becoming my least favorite. Why ruin such beautiful pets, while pets such as the angelic feli remain extremely outdated? Way to sour my day. Want an option to retain old style instead of new style, or old artist instead of new artist. And everyone commenting about the snout: different angles (and of course I liked the previous angle more) Why aren't we allowed to vote on these redraws? Honestly, the color redraws are the only time I ever dislike Subeta.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ok so here's my fixed version. I moved the ear slightly forward, the nose up, and got rid of the line on the chest fur. [IMG]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x82/necolasa/DMKumos.png[/IMG]

A few quick fixes and it doesn't look so squishy. The body and wings are gorgeous though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

just because we aren't kissing staff's bums we aren't allowed to voice our opinions? Nice, you know where else they have that? Korea.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the older montre looked more... idk, evil? suspicious?

But the new one has very nice wings! And i like the dragarth, good job there. :D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the montre. Now I know what spells is going to be :D

But shut the loving up haters, the artists worked so hard.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Love these revamps!

The new montre looks pretty much just as sleek as the old one to me, it... doesn't seem much stockier haha. It's very true to the old art but fixed some issues such as wings that didn't look like wings. The legs look way better now imo, and the shading is quite an improvement. The darkmatters look loads better and I love the darker color for the outline so much. Looks so much better. And the wings are GORGEOUS. Overall it looks much more like a montre to me! I find that the old one feels much more... 'generic majestic winged wolf lol' than this one; this is more of a Subeta pet in my mind I guess, haha!

I like the dragarth a lot too. The lineart is waaay better and the shading is lovely. I like the lighter gray parts not having as big of a contrast to the rest of the body, it just appeals to me more, and something about the way the darkmatter outline is done is just really appealing! (same with the montre, but it caught my eye more with the dragarth, haha.) The eyes are really pretty but I do sort of prefer the more scowly look of the old one -- this one's face seems to have less personality, I guess? That's really my only quibble though, haha.

Great work overall! :D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Finally. :D These are both very nice! This makes me liek the Dragarth more,actually ;D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i love the wings on the new montre, but i much prefer the older version. it looked much more sinister, and i really liked the lankiness of the old pet's legs.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I hate to be saying this... but as a user who has owned these two pet colors in the past, I prefer the older version. Not saying the artist isn't talented, because they definitely are, it's all just a matter of preference and taste.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the new montre's snout is pointed too far down compared to the rest of it's head. Also it's ears are a bit off. I'll try to red line it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Deary me... look at all the drama. x____X

I'm really not keen, though... then again, I didn't think much of the old ones, either! I'm sure the artist put a lot of effort in, yes, but it's not for me I'm afraid. :)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I adore the dragarth! Very well drawn and he totally encompasses the dark matter personality. The montre on the other hand looks to soft to me, I really don't like ow round and cartoony it looks :( He looked much more dark mattery in his previous pose. Purely the art style though he does look very much improved, he just needs to be a bit more.. sharp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I used to have a DM montre. I always loved its pose and expression. The new one is quite nice, but the old one will always have a special place in my heart.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

AAAACK!!!!

OLD DM MONTRE AGAINST THE STANDARD MONTRE:

CORRECTION!!!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

geez, rough week for the artist huh :/ I'm not against critiques, I just think that between this and the Beauty and the Beast trunk.. it must be a bit rough.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

NEW DM MONTRE AGAINST STANDARD MONTRE:

If you look at the standard Montre pose, you can see that the new Darkmatter Montre's muzzle (or nose, but it's really a muzzle as it contains a jaw and teeth) is much more accurate to the actual Montre than the old DM Montre was. Actually, the head is much more accurate. More to the point, the new DM Montre is much more accurate to the actual Montre, now, than the old one was:

Old DM Montre against the Standard Montre:

The only thing that may be a little off are the ears, but that's the whole point of a Montre in a different pose - not everything will match up 100% because of the different poses :)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

YAY UPDATE Love the new DM Montre!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the body of the Montre and the entire Dragarth. The Dragarth overall looks amazing. Very 'pompous' and arrogant all " Why are you looking at me' Like most dark matter pets are known for. and the I mean the WINGS on the montre are AMAZING!!!! Seriously stunning with the highlighting and the feathers. nd the paws and the dark matter are very much the snooty montre of old in a much more up to date art.

But the face of the montre looks off for it. Its expression tho still slightly 'arrogant' from the angle lost some of the spunkyness. Like the fact of how rounded everything ( including the skull). It just has a a very soft feel to it that the original didn't have. With it being so round it gives the look more of a chihuahua with the dome apple roundness.

Something about the eyes and muzzle together also maybe the fact the eyes angle and muzzles don't match or something. Or just the softness and roundess of the face and skull threw me off. Not sure

Figured people may way some reasons may I and possibly others are iffy on the face with some Constructive critisism. I'm hoping a small tweek can be made to this montre since i know it was a LOT of peoples favorite pets but if not hopefully it can help future redraws.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love them both. c: I can see what people are saying about proportions and stuff, but I guess it just doesn't really bug me in the end. I love it and I thank whichever artist(s) drew these! ^^ Thank you for trying so hard to stick to the original poses and updating the art frequently. <3

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