We just have to be patient and see what happens tier by tier.

We are on T8.....If we get to T11 and things arn't balanced i'm sure would be open to revisiting the trident and other weapons that scale. Other weapons at T11 with a % heal are likely going to be downgraded to similar fixed heals.

But are the godlies going to lose their percent heal? Since those are considered super special and all

Well Purge did say healing was broken hence why it was one of the reasons for the revamp. Though I do hope that these changes per tier can of course be adjusted as time goes on if things still feel lackluster. I agree some changes do feel a bit... bleh.

Good thinking.... it would make sense for those weapons to keep their % heal and if things MUST be changed its maybe just a single drop in the percent number and a buff going elsewhere.

I do agree that Blessed Trident could either use more scaling or a higher heal cap again. It’s often used interchangeably with Swashbuckle because of its blessing. I think the low heal cap would essentially kill it in the final tiers 😦

Thank you so much for that info! is trying to kill us all with all the custom coding this time I think haha. Also, Mighty Kora Gauntlet shows on SL as having either a curse or blessing (not sure which) - I have the stats and turn amounts just not if it's blessing or curse if you happened to notice that.

I do have some of the untested weapons that need custom coding updates so I will try to work on them when I can as well.

It was indeed a curse on the Mighty Kora Gauntlet (:dmg🔥4 :dmg🧊4). The turn count (3) is correct :D

I think the CC on Malice is just its curse.

I plan to take a look at the rest of the list tonight. I was too tired to continue yesterday. All of that scaling was a lot, haha.

Awesome thank you! And yeah, I realized when I was testing Malice that it didn't have a chance to its CC haha. I sometimes get overzealous. I'm seeing what I can see for now on any I have so I'll adjust the list and remove any I have time to test - we'll see how long it lasts (today is the first day I haven't had to do any work work since last Sunday lol).

And I appreciate how much you help with all of this every time - it's a ton of work, especially this time around!

Malice stat boosts +33 Speed, STR and DEF

Set of Loaded dice blocks 99 icons of a random icon type.

From what Purge has said in discord, It sounds like he has been still trying to figure out exactly what endgame healing will look like. I'm sure Trident will be end up being a near peer to the other endgame items once they get figured out.

Thank you for confirming those for me. I'm working on the others and have weird results with Bone Grinder haha.

Is it possible to get a list of which weapons newly took the healer slot and which dropped off from taking the healer slot?

Also do we know if/how many Baal's are out there to combo test with? I know most folks who get one do the combo to get the Cronus (not that I have either) so idk how hard it'll be to test that or even if folks are getting that boost ((also is there any plans to at some point maybe add another tier to achievements to get an additional Baal since it's triple duty as a wearable, weapon, and ingredient))?

I have a Baal so I can test that one

Oh awesome, thank you. I am not to the point quiet yet where I can defeat to get a Baal. I've done from the bottom up on the list and am testing the Sierrac Basal Ice Flail now but then I'll be off for a bit.

[edit] I am not sure what Sierrac scales based on. My T8 and T10 pets had the exact same result ranges as base. My T12 has these:

Attack: 4 Wind (fixed), 28-37 Ice Defense: 65 Water, 65 Ice

I need to know what stats it scales based on and will need help sorting that because I don't have enough pets to test.

We did some testing of the Flail in the Discord server the other day so I have the data for that one. I just need to put it in a nice chart for you :P

TLDR: It scaled on speed (2k, 3k, 4k, 5k)

Tier 8 looks like it has the most defense improvements and success so far in accomplishing the revamp goal. There are still things that could be changed, but it's so much better than tier 6 and 7 (which probably should return and improve or scale things up more).

Some suggestions:

1. 3 mods slots should be mininum for infinite use weapons Upgrade the Sierrac Basal Ice Flail and Dungarde Axe from 2 to 3 slots. (What other weapons did I miss?)

2. Improve the scaling on the trident to make up for its lost heal

3. Remove the classified healer limitation on most T8 weapons except those which percent heals or heal a significant fixed amount. Most of them are limited 1 equipped anyways.

4. Balance out the Bluud Wand to positive heal only (To be honest, it was not that useful even before the revamp due to lack of anything else other than a random yet unreliable heal)

So now the trident max heal is 350hp now, but still has the same 90 wind defense. The trident's scaled defense still needs improvement.

I remembered that the Charged Tower Shield is now a classified healer. I don't think it is necessary to classify that as healer since other weapons such as the Mighty Kora Gauntlet and the Purple Spider Squeaky Toy heals more, and the PSST is no longer classified as healer now.

Which also kind of brings back the RIWoD, if it's better to remove the classified healer on it now.

's fixes from the last post: Lightly Feathered Blowgun - base defense was changed from water to fire Blessed Trident of the Banished One - heal cap was raised to 350 HP

• Ice King Clawed Gloves ( may need to fix this one. The ice block just disappears 😬)

• Wallowing Gas Boosts speed by 10 Second attack (~10% activation rate) :dmg:dark:10 :dmg:water:10 :dmg:earth:10 :dmg:wind:10 :block:earth:15

• Bluud Wand (when paired with Baal and Flayed Lord Breastplate) :dmg🔥10 :dmg:magma:10 :heal: 1,200 HP

• Smoldering Slaglord Gauntlets

• Sierrac Basal Ice Flail

• Smash and Bash

• Dungarde Axe

• Bone Grinder

• Set of Loaded Dice :block:physical:99 or :block:dark:99 or :block:earth:99 or :block:water:99 or :block:wind:99 or :block:light:99 :heal: 20% HP ~5% chance to freeze

This round hurt my brain

I really appreciate all of this!

For the slaglord is that when Defense is Greater than Strength or when both stats are in those ranges?

Yes, when defense is a certain number of points greater than strength :D

Awesome, thank you so much for all of that. This was definitely a brain melting set of items to get through and I really appreciate all the hard work from everyone because good lord. It's all fixed on SL now I believe.