"Gold Quill - Heal ↑, Counts as a healer"

This sticks out to me as potentially a bad change. Especially if the plan would also be to give this same treatment to Evil Quill, Jeweled Quill, Mystical Orb of the Gods, Silver Quill, and Bronze Quill in Tiers 1 and 2.

Timing when to use healers is one of the few times when you actually make an in battle decision, and if it's going to end up probably limited to Healer + Pquill as your only healers, the choice between a multi use healer and Gold Quill seems like a no brainer in favor of the multi healer.

As of right now, I think the default Budget T3 set looks like this: [Item=Dark Battle Star][Item=The Juicer][Item=Stinging Gauntlet][Item=Phoenix Quill][Item=Rainbow Herb Shield]

This is what I had previous recommended: [Item=Icy freezing rod of doom][Item=Stinging Gauntlet]

I'm going out on a limb and just assuming the the other quills are going to get the gold quill nerf too. I think if that happens the low level meta probably shifts to the Setup/Freeze into double bomb set up of the higher tiers. I think as is The Juicer is still the best of the healers.

Rainbow Herb Shield + The Juicer + Divine Denizen Scroll might just become the meta though for battle quests. An even trained T3 , nearing T4 ends up blocking 24 damage of each icon type that the challenger uses in a turn. It might just be better than stinging gauntlet.

There are a few dual duty weapons that potentially could be more powerful than RHS or SG, but I think most of the lower end challengers can make dual duties miss, so unless lower end challengers are tweaked to use more mono icon types like Tide, I think the rest of the defensive weapons are probably still not worth considering. RHS Never misses so its pretty much just a super charged healer.

One of the Dark Battle Stars would probably be replaced by hellfire if you limit Dark Battle star to one. I don't know if that new budget set is more interesting for the game or not to be honest. I might play around with my T3 in Bqs a bit before the reset tonight to see if it seems more fun or not.

Astral Wand might also be a little too good, I'm thinking it might be good for capped pets with a huge chain freeze, and then a delayed Soma/RB. Could probably reduce most opponents damage by a massive percentage. If an opponent has 12 weapons, and you steal 4 in a chain freeze, then Blast 2, instead of reducing a challengers damage by 17%, you're decreasing the challengers damage by 25%.

Ah okay, I don't think we have an indicator for that anyhow on the curse.

That would be amazing, thank you ❤️

Unless the plan is to remove Healer from all other weapons to allow all the quill, including Phoenix, to be labelled as such, I'm wary of the idea too. Phoenix being labelled as a healer would conflict with RIWoD, which already has the Healer slot taken but is a very useful weapon for its tier and long-term.

Thank you Purge!

Thank you! I'm gonna be annoying I'm sorry - this one doesn't have it's freeze percent listed:

Ontra Stun Grenades

Those are the kind of things I want to get pinged for! Ontra Stun Grenades freeze numbers added.

I've been testing with this pet:

Corporal Beatd0wn the Common Experiment Level: 129 Health: 0 / 283 Strength: 264 Defense: 254 Speed: 253 Intelligence: 511 AP: 31 Tier: 3 To Next Tier: 1054 / 1200

The thing that I'm noticing the most is that you can just Blast opponents down with Dark Battle Star + Icy Freezing Wand and then 2 more DBS, along side 2 Morosbane Scrolls to just obliterate every default easy and medium challenger 10x+, and can even use that to get multiple wins many of the hard challengers, and thats before specifically trying to try to min max the stats. And thats also not doing anything with mods.

You never need to defend if your 250HP pet can deal 1000 damage in the first 2 turns of the battle while healing for 300 each turn. I think you need to scale back the damage on most of the lower tier weapons, so that low level battles are not so one sided. For tier 3, 6 icons max for constants and 10-15 max for bombs would make sense to me.

Thank you so much!

The Concept of clockwork bomber is interesting, I like it. Kinda hard to judge if it is actually helpful though. Since you can freeze bomb your way to hard challengers with speeds of 600-1000, adding 100 to 200-300 doesn't really move the needle much. I think to move the needle in a lot of battles a OPB speed boost would need to be 300-1000 with damage output where it is right now. Although, also making it a bomb then would probably not be a great idea since it just seems to be very low cost. Or you could lower the speeds of many opponents (probably not a bad idea, since it seems like they are often just batched together with STR/DEF of the challenger, which tends to produce the same effect of not really ever needing speed when your facing those challengers.)

Otherwise I'm not really sure how important any of the other changes are with the damage output of t3 pets being so high. Especially with the fates of stinging gauntlet, Shinwas Quill, Trident, and Knocker still in the air,

I'm trying to update SubetaLodge but unfortunately I do not own all of these items so anyone who can provide info on the changes for the following would be appreciated since hovers don't show the info:

Valentines Rod Joker Shield ((and info about the combo boost for having joker shield + joker staff)) Ikumoradeekanox Blender Blaster Pokey Stick Dark Goddess Amulet ((combo boost info for having dark goddess amulet + dark goddess rod)) Angelic Spork Sword of Love Reborn Regeneration Skull Vampire Blood

Can you explain the speed boost for the Clockwork Bomber? Just trying to get accurate info on SL haha.

speed boost is +100 speed

Very excited to see what else comes out! I am finally tier 6 and I haven't invested a ton in weapons for this tier yet.... waiting to see what happens! :)

Thank you! Do you know if that lasts for the duration of the battle or for just a number of turns?

the non alphabetized list is making me explode xD!!!

*Azathoth Hungry Boots - D ↑ Antihero Sword - D ↑ Azathoth Hungry Boots - D ↑ Bottled Spirit - D ↑, A ↑ Bracer of ____ (all of them) - D ↔ Celinox Portable Battle Snowflakes - Freeze ↑ to 80% Classic Hero Sword - D ↑ Counteraim Ring - CC removed, D ↑ Curly Hydrus Horns - One use → OPB, D ↑ Cursed Voodoo Coffin - Heal % → Fixed Dark-Jeweled Sword - D ↑ Deadaim Ring - CC removed, D ↑ Demonic Rod - A ↑, D ↑ Descimatii - D ↑ Espergile Orbital Cannon - D ↑ Fairy Lance - D ↑ Faulds of Deathward - D ↑ Fencing Rapier- D ↑ Frozen Heart - D ↑ Holly Tree Staff - D ↑ Hydrus Inhibiter - D ↑ Hydrus Lantern of Death - D ↑ Kabuto of Deathward - D ↑ Libra Sword of Balance - D ↑ Lilac Mahar Hourglass - Freeze ↑ to 80% Lords Saber - D ↑ Nobles Rapier - D ↑ Poison Tipped Qwirl Quills - Freeze ↑ to 100% Rainbow Herb Shield - updated to semi-breakable Ruffie Bottled Breath - Freeze ↑ to 80% Shillelagh - D ↑ Spaulders of Deathward - D ↑ Thunder Orb - D ↑ Twilight Blade A ↑, D ↑ Vambrace of Deathward - D ↑ Vengeful Undead Kitty - D ↑ Welldweller Gauntlets - D ↑ Welldweller Helm - D ↑ Welldweller Pauldrons - D ↑ Welldweller Tall Boots - D ↑ Wingheart Pin - D ↑ Wolfslayer - D ↑

I'm sorry! It's sorted by item ID and I can't change it ;.;

You should totally do T12 next after you finish T3

- give her a BOOOOOST.

I'd love to see the legendaries become more relevant again....oooo and dare I say a new combo for the worlds first t13 weapon.....I can dream :P

[edit] Hopefully a lot of these retired and crystal shop ones make an appearance for the T3's just far!