Whenever I think of the "queue is too small to up the number of days" excuse, this always comes to mind. Just think of how large the queue would be if all those multiple rejection pets could get feedback. I can bet money a great deal of those pets (which no other users can determine the problem for) only need small changes. Then with those changes, they could become winners. The queue would SURGE if we had rejection feedback available! And the number of "I just saw this pet 7 days ago and it has the same problem" rejections would greatly decrease!

It is such a shame that we have this paradoxical problem with the spotlight: No one enters because they keep getting rejected and cannot win. Others cannot win because the number of days is so few because not enough people are entering because they keep getting rejected!

Apparently, staff doesn't want to spend time writing reasons why pets are rejected, but are willing to do so for CW because money.

So, if staff isn't willing to help us with the pet spotlight, why do we have it?

Yes, more pet stuff is cool, but can we have more pet stuff that actually works well for everyone. Right now, nobody is happy with the spotlight.

I am going to agree that because the pet spotlight doesn't generate immediate cash flow to the site that it is ignored. There has been ample time to make changes to get the process to be more functional and user friendly on both sides but nothing has happened.

I don't have a lot to add that hasn't already been said, but it makes me so sad that the spotlight is neglected. I think it's a really great feature and a fundamental part of Subeta as a pet site, and it sucks balls that staff don't seem to care about it.

I initially joined Subeta because it is a pet site. But now, it feels like pets are being neglected and that is causing me to lose motivation to be active on this site. Sure, I am busy with college, but why bother spending my free-time working on my pets when they're just not as big as they used to be?

To be honest, I feel like Subeta is shifting from a pet-site to a HA-site of sorts. I get it, some people are more into creating awesome HAs, and that's totally fine. I admire people who make stunning HAs but I don't put in the effort myself. But that's not my point. I know next to nothing about custom wearables so correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that if a wearable does not meet certain standards, staff will explain what needs to be done to improve the item so that it can be accepted. If staff bother with explaining why a custom wearable has been rejected, then staff should put the same amount of effort into explaining why pets get rejected from the spotlight queue.

I get it, businesses love money and profits. Custom wearables can help Subeta generate revenue. I can't say I have done this myself, but people have spent their money on pet slots as well. Pet slots aren't cheap here. I understand that it takes time to read a pet's story and whatnot, but I think dedicated pet owners deserve the time to provide reasoning if their pet gets rejected and for the spotlight to deserve more priority in general.

As for the question of fanpets, I thought it was already a rule that fanpets have to mention what book/game/show/etc. they are from? Or is that an unwritten rule and norm? Most fanpets I come across have something mentioned at the very end of the story stating that "so-and-so is a character off of this video game series" for example. At that point, I feel like it would be quick and simple to Google that video game real quick to check that the fanpet is okay. I only read through the first half of this forum so I could have missed something. But I feel like if staff really wants to put that much effort into making sure a fanpet is accurate, then require fanpets to state what they are based off of (if that's not already a written rule.)

It seems to be an unwritten rule, I don't know if it's required for spotlight nomination and you should ask one of the judges about it. I slap it on all of my fanpet profiles, even the really contrived ones like Sariel -- who's based off of a video game portrayal in design alone -- just so I don't get told off for stealing ideas or characters.

It's not hard to tuck away in the credits for a profile, so don't worry too much about it. I'm working on a fanpet right now that I'm kind of "ehhh" about putting credits into because it would mess with the flow/fourth-wall-breaking thing, but I'll just sneak them in somewhere.

It's a moot point though, because she isn't posting any updates.

See I don't understand why fanpets have to be accurate at all. Why does it matter if a fandom is accurate? It's the user's personal portrayal of a character/idea/theme/whatever and not cannon. There shouldn't have to be any fact checking at all.

I believe it was who said that a lot of time is spent on making sure a fanpet is accurate. Why not just save time and hassle and accept a pet if it meets all other criteria?

Edit: Ahh found the quote! And it was actually from this thread heh.

Bold for emphasis. What does it matter if the judge personally likes a fandom/theme? As long as the pet is site appropriate and follows the stipulations of the Spotlight there is no reason why it can't get put through the queue. The pet spotlight judging is not fair and impartial, it's now based on whether or not you have a popular and well known fanpet or theme.

Ahh, I thought I had seen it mentioned ages ago that fanpets needed to have credit to be considered for spotlight. Maybe I just saw some users talking about it then lol. I know what you mean though. I try to section off the story and put a little note at the very end that a character is a fandom from whatever.

I feel the same. I have wanted to make fanpets that don't closely resemble the character it is portraying. Sometimes, I just want to give it my own spin and come up with a story that the creditor never went into detail about. It's understandable that not every person is going to be familiar with or like the fandom that you based a character around so I don't really see a point of fanpets being super accurate, if at all. But regardless, I offered a suggestion in case they still want to stick with the accuracy thing. I still think being that accurate it slowing the spotlight process even more however.

What about fanpets, I suppose this nuance:

A character which is not character from Subeta (For example Snape), has got more possibility's, for a free interpretation.

A fanpet which is a NPC character, (For example Shinwa) will listen much more closely whether this character corresponds to the official information. In this example, for Shinwa as fanpet is not necessarily vain, but rather just a little eccentric, this will not come soon qualify for the pet spotlight. Because according to the official information Shinwa is incredible vain.

Do I understand this principle what about the fanpets of NPC characters correctly or is it actually less strictly than what I suppose?

tbh. headcanons and aus exist and even then it's incredibly inefficient to hold a million pets in the queue so that someone can research a fandom and make sure it's """accurate""". time spent doing that can be spent better elsewhere like ya know fixing other things with the spotlight 👀 all that should be required at most is credit to the original source of the character/concept

Usually, when I see a pet in news who won the spotlight, I can guess what the story is about before clicking. This is bad, because yeah, some themes are more "desirable" and popular.

There are a lot of 1st degree wins, and I know a lot of people with more inventive ideas pretty much gave up on the spotlight.

Usually, when I see a pet in news who won the spotlight, I can guess what the story is about before clicking. This is bad, because yeah, some themes are more "desirable" and popular.

There are a lot of 1st degree wins, and I know a lot of people with more inventive ideas pretty much gave up on the spotlight.

Why is it always coffee shops? Predictable heterosexual love stories? Cute little girls with no problems in the world? Maybe it's just me, but there's a lot of repeated themes used often, and it's a bit of a turnoff when none of my pets really fit the popular winning molds. :/

This. This this this this this. More than half my pets are fanpets, but it bores me to no end to see fanpets that are just 100% official information, so I take it as my chance to flesh them out and fill in the gaps that are left for people to interpret. You gotta personalize things!

I THINK I HAD ENOUGH CUTE BAKER PETS AND SERIAL KILLERS WHO ARE SO VERY SOCIOPATHIC, THANKS.

more not-so-cute-bakers and serial killers who kill for other reasons than for the lulz, revenge or cannibalism, please

To mention my pet Richard again, his story is my original creation, bridging the two appearances he had in his games. His second appearance was in a Zelda game and was largely a cameo and non-canon, but I wanted to add something to it!

Fanpets should definitely be like "based" on the character, but it's entirely possible to have original fun with it? Elecman in his games is a criminal, but in the little blurb I wrote for him, he gave up on that to collect electronics. I use him as a collection for all things electricity and lightning, which I love. And it fits him!

I really don't like to judge peoples' OCs negatively, but most of the time the cutesy or overly dark stuff kinda puts me off because it seems like the same thing over and over. :( I feel like if more attention were given to the spotlight, there'd be a lot more enthusiasm for it on the users' end, and it would lead to the diversity in characters we sort of used to have.

Also almost all my OC pets are part of one connected story, and I've gotten sMails after they've won, wanting to learn more about them. That's exciting! I love inspiring people and I love for people to see the work I put into my characters.

But no one will see that, or get to show off their own, if this huge lag in care continues :/

Exactly! I have a pet that's a serial killer and ALSO a baker. She works for vampires, who she loves as a family; she's not unfeeling, she just has to kill because it's her job. It's a thing that happens. :') It's fun to cross the stereotypes, it makes for really funny and unique characters!

Darker stuff is fantastic, a ton of my stories are tons of shades of moral grays. But simple "this is a serial killer and he kills stuff bc of single reason" is.. mmm. I couldn't ever write something like that, it feels unfulfilled to me. It's not realistic or interesting, but I guess simple things are easier to judge? I've got these really long pet stories on multiple pets, and I'm not sure if they're uncommon just because they're too much work?

(oops the fanpet I'm working on is going to have a branching, breaks-the-fourth-wall, click-to-advance narrative so that's going to be long. r i p staff.)

If someone managed 100% with the official info on his/her own way the story could be great too, but as a character for example, only 25% meet the official info on the story, the story on itself can still be very beautiful, but in a different way. It's a choice. (25% identity with the official information I personally think this on the poor side. Then someone should be asked by his/herself whether he/she could be better to create a new original character). I actually have no idea where the line is when a character should become actually new and original and when it has such parable to be determine as a fanfic. Is it 50%, 75%, 99%?

I can imagine that if someone wants to have a chance to let win his/her fanpet for pet spotlight, it is the most practical thing to hold on the official info for 100%. I suppose the method you mentions get indeed the best chance. It would be fun to see how different everyone again fill those holes with his/her personal interpretation to a same character.

Again something I don't know: Could a fanpets from the same character from differnt users win the pet spotlicht or will it be more first winning fanpet comes first wins?

Hmm.. I think over to collect all questions and unclearnesses and ping a staff member with a laundry list with all those askings.

Usually, when I see a pet in news who won the spotlight, I can guess what the story is about before clicking. This is bad, because yeah, some themes are more "desirable" and popular.

There are a lot of 1st degree wins, and I know a lot of people with more inventive ideas pretty much gave up on the spotlight.

Why is it always coffee shops? Predictable heterosexual love stories? Cute little girls with no problems in the world? Maybe it's just me, but there's a lot of repeated themes used often, and it's a bit of a turnoff when none of my pets really fit the popular winning molds. :/

Pets aren't allowed to win if their story is too "dark". Even if its allowed on Subeta, the Spotlight has different rules for what's okay to win. When the Spotlight first came out I had a pet rejected for that. Its probably a factor in why so many cookie cutter pets win.

I don't understand. When is a story too "dark"? I think this about official info by Yaza is dark:

.Tries to be more of a friend than an authority figure to Shinwa, but this has only led to Shinwa pushing her further away. It will be me, but Shinwa is known as a good character. I can not reconcile that Shinwa such a nice person like Oracle push away. I'm getting associations to which I can not see this in Shinwa. I myself have been through a lot ... So it that will really be me that I can not do anything with this. As well Yaza wanted to be friends with Merana, Okay I understand better that Merana push Oracle away, because Merana is just a bully. Simple.

I'm not staff so I can't tell you for sure, but the Pet Spotlight page says "pets of an extremely sexual nature or those with extremely graphic undertones".

I think trigger warnings are enforced on pets like that now. I was told to put a trigger warning on my rejected pet because of his story (which was, honestly, more graphic than I thought it was when I wrote it; it was a coping story). I eventually just removed it so I wouldn't have to deal with the hassle anymore.

I've never understood why those kinds of stories are even allowed on Subeta if they're not allowed to "represent Subeta" (as non-members can view any and all pets they find, know the names of, have links to, etc unless things have been changed).