I definitely encourage you not to buy potions and whatnot then. When battling opponents in higher t12/t13 most of your losses are just going to be from unlucky crits and potions aren't going to make a difference on that. I think mama forj is THE exception, and it's worth it to get win 5 for sure, but other than that, don't bother ya know? I've only ever used potions to get early wins on opponents with my second pets other than forj. never used em for boss fights either. they're just a bonus.

What should my stats be (aprx) to take on the F'in Mother?

I just don't think 25k for potions & pylonics is reasonable when they sell in the AA for 450-500 each. They are not rare like boosters and were always accessible in the past. I don't think spending lots of hard earned sps on potions and pylonics is encouraging at all.

forj? KT has more than enough stats to take her on.

I got 5 wins on Mama Forj pretty easy, Killer Threat is gonna be fine :)

prolly 3-4k str/def/hp to start. you just need to have 2 water heavy damage dealers with a heal. syringe and pstaff are preferable cause they have the perfect blocks to go with that.

syringe and blessed trident are best, and having pstaff in there is nice if she steals one. if you need lent later I can do that when I get home as long as you can replace my water mods :)

I've got trident and Pstaff, but if I can borrow syringe, that would be great! I can replace any mods.

lemme send it to you now. mod all three with water baguettes, that's what my syringe has on it now :) will gift it in just a sec

just curious, how long has rouland been around?

You Won!

You have defeated Forj Matriarch, the Erupting 1 time!

You won a(n) Impossible token to use in the battle shop!

You've earned the Conquerer of the Forjlings achievement!

I think since 2011.

Congrats on the Forj win.

@ mrcool

ahh ok thanks. i knew he's been around awhile.

Thanks !

Thanks!

You Won!

You have defeated Forj Matriarch, the Erupting 4 times!

Getting tough now. Am running low on dark water potions, and was already low on throwing vials because no gellies this year. Hard to cause any damage to her. All the single use stuff I can use is over 20K. Too expensive for as many turns as it is taking me to knock her out.

EDIT: You Won!

You have defeated Forj Matriarch, the Erupting 5 times!

You won a(n) Impossible token to use in the battle shop!

Forj Matriarch, the Erupting drops:

[item2=Gift of the Forj Scroll] :)

1 level from job agency shinwa: Shinwas Sword of Victory

Congrats on the scroll! It sometimes does feel like they are trying to deprive us of potions sometimes.

Congrats on beating her. I was absolutely thrilled when I finally did. It feels really great when you start beating the most difficult opponents.

Thanks! Even if I run out of supplies and can't get all 10 wins on her, at least I got the scroll! :)