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Aug 22, 2012 13 years ago
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Frosted

Aww its really looking good now! :D

Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
Cathii
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I totally deleted the mail with the first denial, so I don't have that one, I only have the second denial :/

Your custom clothing Satin Amethyst Gown was denied for the following reason : • OVERLAY: Issues from previous denial were not sufficiently addressed • NOTE: This is still not looking right to us, I'm sorry to say. The perspective issues are still off, especially with the skirt and belly, and the sleeves look almost airbrushed to the dress rather than an actual part of it.

What the first denial said: • sleeves didnt look connected to the dress • bottom right folds were odd looking (unclear light source) • perspective seemed off (belly button and skirt part)

I'm actually really stumped on that one. I'm unsure of what doesnt look aligned on the belly since the jewels and the hole are right in the belly button, but there must be something I'm not seing :/

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Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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What is actually throwing it off /to me/ is the upper part of the dress. The neck line seems to stretch far more to one side than it should from this angle. Which in turn makes not only that breast look squished, but makes the rest of the dress look like it's in the wrong perspective to me.

Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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Do you mean the way that the string is positioned in the neck, or the actual outline of the neckline (the top part of the bust I suppose)? I looked at it and it did look good to me, but perhaps if I completely changed the angle, that might work, thanks!

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Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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For me the first thing I thought when I saw the dress was that it was a maternity dress. The stomach area looks like she's pregnant in the new version. I think that maybe the hole/belly button opening should be slightly moved to the right. On the right side (avatars left) it looks like the boob is sagging or is not as full as it should be.

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Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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If I move it even a bit more on the right, it actually looks centered, and therefore front view instead of 3/4 view x( I think however that it may be the angle pointing up rather than curving with the bodyline?

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Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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It could be. I actually don't know what was wrong with the first version because that one looks fine to me. After looking again I think that's it's the strap on the right side (our right) that's throwing the boob off. The strap "line" comes all the way down to the bottom of the gem in the center, but the other side only goes down to the bottom string on the necklace. ???

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Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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id shade the sleeves darker and move the belly whole a bit to the right.

Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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for me, the cut out on the belly doesn't look like it's skewed quite right for the perspective. The top lines on it look like they're the same length and that might be what's causing it.


Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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I tried to fix the neckline, the belly button, I changed the folds of the left side of the skirt also x3 Does it look any better? :( (Still havent solved the sleeves issue, of them not being connected) | |

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Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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One thing I will say is it does look a bit flat to me, I would think our right would be darker than the left, and it looks like you started to do that around the chest area but it doesn't happen with the rest of the dress

Sep 10, 2012 13 years ago
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Alrighty!

The first issue I notice is the flow and perspective of the dress:

  1. The dress doesn't 'connect' to the floor correctly. I take it that the dress is supposed to sit so that there's hem touching the floor. [Our Left] side is the main issue here where the dress stops above the foot as opposed to behind it. On [our Right] side the dress fold appears to go into the foot rather than over it.
  2. The central flow from the belly button appears off. A dress of this sort wouldn't flow in such a way that the gap is open like this, rather it should flow nicely down [our left] side much like it does on [our right] side. (I'll try to explain this better in a picture).
  3. The 3/4 view is not adequately achieved through both the neckline and the belly button. As the neck is a nice round shape it causes the belly button to appear too far to [our left].

In regards to the sleeves it is incredibly difficult for a sleeve to sit like it does here without some sort of attachment going over the shoulder. The sleeves top should curve downward, not upward as it is now. With this issue fixed it's likely they'll be happy to accept the connection.

The bottom of the sleeves appear stiff. Clothing doesn't fall this way unless its very tough (which I'm willing to bet this dress shouldn't be). There should be more flow to the sleeves so instead of curving outward into a triangular point they should fall downward.

Here's an example of the above:

I hope this helps!

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Sep 11, 2012 13 years ago
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Oh my, thank you so much! I am already reworking on a new version, but your tips and markers definitely help ❤️ I wouldnt have noticed the perspective issue on the bottom part :/

[edit] I've redid some parts of the dress, made the gap on the side, fixed the sleeves. Your pointer image really helped me x3 I'm still unsure of the bottom right of the dress though :/ I mean,I know it lookswrong somehow, but I'm not sure why D|

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Sep 11, 2012 13 years ago
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You're welcome :).

I believe the bottom is still a bit off:

  1. Our left side of the dress still appears to sit -on top- of the HAs foot rather than behind it.
  2. The section on the bottom right looks wrong likely because the fold doesn't flow over the foot correctly. Instead of flowing off to the side of the foot like the rest of the fabric does the ruffle instead almost appears to fold directly into the foot. The ruffle there should be curved in the opposite direction? I would give a drawn example but I can't use my tablet :C.

Aside from that, looking great! I'm glad you moved the cut hole up and changed the centre line :).

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Sep 11, 2012 13 years ago
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I... I think I understood ;____; Well, I just have to sketch it agai and hope honestly, because im not sure xD But thank you! ❤️

[edit] How's this? D|

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Sep 13, 2012 13 years ago
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Some reason I didn't see the ping! Sorry D: The right side is looking a bit better.

Perhaps try this:

On the left note how its not "sitting on top of the foot", it's visually behind it against the floor. On the right the fabric continues to fall to the floor after touching the foot.

Hope this helps :), again sorry for the late reply!

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Sep 13, 2012 13 years ago
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Ohhh dont worry hun! ❤️ Actually my friend tried to help me also with the stupid folds and I ended up redoing them (again haha) I'll update it here in a moment, sorry!

And thank you so much for all your help dear!

[edit] Please please please tell me the shape is all good or I dont know how I'll ever fix this ;___;

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Sep 14, 2012 13 years ago
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It looks fantastic! But [our left] foot is still carrying the fabric. The fabric needs to touch the floor!

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Sep 18, 2012 13 years ago
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Honestly I dont really know what to fix anymore :/ It's the third time it was denied (( think?) and I'm starting to lose objective criticism to the point where I dont know what's right or wrong. If anyone would be able to spot an obvious mistake that I just cant seem to see, please, pleaaaase let me know ;___;

was denied for the following reason : • OVERLAY: Artwork does not match Subeta style, quality, or level of detail in general • OVERLAY: Pillow shading • OVERLAY: Ambiguous shading/light source unclear • NOTE: Overall this artwork just does not reflect Subeta style. Part of it is the shading, which is going around the edge of the dress rather than following the form of it. It looks rather pillow shaded rather than like fabric. Also the arm of the dress on our left side is attached to the main dress in a very awkward way.

[edit] I've just removed the pattern, does that look better? (I know it doesnt solve the problems, but but, maybe it helps ;___; )

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Sep 18, 2012 13 years ago
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i honestly think if it didn't have that texture on it, it'd be much easier to get accepted :/ as of now, it looks a bit (just a bit!) soft-shaded, but that texture really throws it off.

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