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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
Evanesce
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I've been collecting in my wardrobe for over a decade, I have no idea what is in it. I'm in total shock.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Sucre

The blank images in the purchase log don't represent missing items FWIW. Things I bought directly from a CW shop (or the cash shop) and Morty Cards are the only things that actually have item images showing. Everything else (pawn shop, bathhouse, CSC purchases, direct slots, trade offers) are blank images

Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
Vars
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Guy Fieri

echoing that, like many other users that have posted, i do not have a list keeping track of every item i own and have a massive wardrobe. knowing what i have lost will be close to impossible, and that's extremely upsetting.

something like this happening isn't acceptable...i understand mistakes & accidents happen, but this is really quite awful and CSC/sP do not solve what happened even remotely if these items are not recoverable. hopefully we hear some good news.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Ravage

Anyone who says they can't create more copies of CWs? That's bullshit. They're code.

There is no reason they can't put the damn string of code back into your account.


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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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I don't really comment on a lot of things that are site related, I try to just have fun with the site, but something like this I have to say something.

First off, make this a news post, not a forum topic. This needs to be seen by all the users on the site as soon as they come on since not everyone are members of certain forum groups.

# 1: We had a bug that deleted a swath of items from the wardrobe. There isn't a very good reason for this, except that it passed our automated tests This sounds more as an excuse to say 'oh well, another oopsie even with feedback of it not working' Don't mention options that will not be beneficial by ending it with 'wouldn't be very interesting' that makes no sense and isn't helpful.

# 2: Unfortunately, the data isn't recoverable from our backups. There also isn't a very good reason for this, other than "our backup service provider stopped making backups and we didn't notice because we never need them", but again, not that interesting. This should've been done before this happened. Whats the point of having a Daily Support Goal bar, Cash Shop: Bonus Weekends, CW market, when it wasn't used in some way to ensure the site was always backed-up. Didn't the last major issue with the site crashing not prepare you so this wasn't repeated? It's very thoughtless to say 'we didn't notice' when you must be paying for a service and not 'notice' it wasn't doing what you paid for. Same for here. This makes me not want to support the site I spend time on when things like this happen.

These are good things to learn and fix This is always said when things go wrong in some shape or form. Doesn't seem like the lessons are teaching you anything if situations like this happen.

I understand you tried to bring something eventful to the site users during these rather stressful times and I'm grateful for it, BUT things should be handled better and not rushed so that errors like this don't continuously happen. I'll attempt to go through my wardrobe through subetalodge in case using the wardrobe link doesn't function. I have a large wardrobe and even though I have some time, it shouldn't have to be something that I have to look for when the site should've been backed-up from the beginning. I'm really disappointment with this having happened. Even if it wasn't just the wardrobe with CWs being affect and it was another part of the site I'd still feel the same way.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Messquerade

I currently can't check what I'm missing cause my entire item list is broken images and if I switch to CWs only view it's blank even though I own a bunch of CWs. to the max

Edit: While I can still check things out in the old wardrobe I'm making a list of all the CWs I own at least. There's exactly 100 of them so gonna take a while. Sadly can't do the same about everything cause it's being buggy and would take days I don't have.

PS yesterday I added some items straight into the wardrobe from NPC shops, such as and now it isn't showing in either wardrobe BUT account search says I own it and it's in my wardrobe if it helps any. Dunno if it does. >.<;

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Sekhmet

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It is what it is and I&;m only going to offer one of my thoughts, which is, to not know &quot;our backup service provider stopped making backups and we didn&;t notice because we never need them&quot; is negligent, not to mention stupid.

Yeah, wow. I hope you realized that your staggering incompetence just killed your site. I think I've gone blind in the face of it. If the site needs to be rolled back, best get on it. Unless it wasn't backed up for months? How was this not noticed?

Also, why the fuck was an unfinished, buggy wardrode pushed upon us without more testing?!? There were reports that it was majorly bugged, yet it was still forced on us. I myself made a report about a glitch that doubled items. Now I've lost everything. I don't even remember the names of most of the CWs I own!

Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Gonna go ahead and second it: WHY is this not a news post?? There are entire forum posts full of users BEGGING for more transparency and communication. That’s not optional when people are paying you to use your product. From a business standpoint this is just a bad move all around. No backup, no news post, not a single reply to the thread so far either?? Yeah. This is bad.

Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Jeremiah Peacekeeper

nvm

Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Lewis Pepper

shitting- why the HOLY FUCK IS THIS NOT A MASSIVE NEWS POST?? WHY WAS IT ON A RANDOM USER TO PING PEOPLE TO THIS THREAD??? WHAT THE ABSOLUTE F U C K?????

i can't even comprehend- i have thousands of items in my wardrobe from over 10 years of amassing them, staff better not be telling us it's OUR responsibility to remember every single damn item we've ever put in there.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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please read first post. This is very important!! Very worried and disappointed. I'm speechless. Are you Ashton Kutcher? Is this Punk'd?

Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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So I did an account search on the items mentioned here that I'm sure I had in the wardrobe.

These are in my wardrobe:

These are NOT in my wardrobe:

Darn, most of these can easily be replaced with SP, but some are really expensive or use holiday currency I would rather save for items I didn't already have.

Please read this thread, you may have some items missing.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
WindKitsune
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As per everyone else's concerns, I'm saying that I too have a lot of items in my wardrobe and would be incredibly disappointed if I lost any of the ones I worked very hard for.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Tziety

I have a Subetalodge Checklist I update whenever I add anything to my collections! Can't believe I'm going to check 426 pages for missing wardrobe items, but guess one must do what one must do. I'll update this post with missing items I find (I will taking breaks because can't be long since hubby's not feeling well, thank you COVID :/)

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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LordAdderhead

Well after 3 hours and going through my CWs (thank crap I'm overly organized and keep track of all my cw babies), I've come to see I'm missing 5... I want them back. No, I do NOT want CSC - give me BACK my missing items. One of those was a GIFT; another is from a user who's no longer a part of Subeta... You can't just replace them with CSC and call it "good". No, it's NOT good. ((Based on the posts of the thread I've been reading, it appears to be like the items that were lost are consistent between users. If that's the case, then there's no re-buying any of these item cause they've all been deleted unless someone had a copy in a gallery or TC...or maybe not even then))

I haven't even bothered trying to check the non-cw items, but guaranteed there's a ton of those missing too. Who's brilliant idea was it to upload the new wardrobe system w/o making a back-up or making sure there IS a backup first?!

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago Official
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I'm popping in quickly to answer what concerns I can, because I understand this is a very stressful situation, and I don't want to leave you hanging for long.

  1. The issue that caused this is fixed and no longer happening.

  2. We very much want to restore items to accounts; we are working on figuring out how to do this. We understand many items such as CWs are not replaceable and we are absolutely going to do our best to restore these and all the other items. The CSC mentioned will be given out on top of all that as extra compensation.

  3. We own up to this. Failing to notice that backups stopped working was a serious, unacceptable oversight. As Keith mentioned, we have now fixed our backup service and added monitoring to prevent this from happening again. That said, we understand that that does not excuse our error and does not make the current situation better.

  4. We didn't choose to not ping siteupdate; we forgot. However, we will be making a more detailed post about this tomorrow, and we'll make sure to draw attention to that post.

This is all I can answer for now. There will be more details posted tomorrow as well as a chance to talk to us about this further; we want to hear your concerns and make sure they are all properly addressed.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Lewis Pepper

Quoting because this puts into words way better than i ever could, and ALSO brings up some VERY CONCERNING ADDITIONAL POINTS. (also WHY has no one on staff responded at all? no official pings whatsoever and leaving everyone to have to find this by chance feels a LOT like you trying to sweep what is theoretically thousands of real life dollars worth of cws going missing under the rug)

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Not pinging for this or making it a news post (especially with the other roll out issues with the new wardrobe like the &quot;report bugs here&quot; link being broken) is not really ok.</p>
<p>I shouldn&;t have to go looking for the bug report thread to find out that an untold number of my items are now missing AND that I might have caused it by continuing to try to use the new wardrobe because no one said anything except in an obscure corner of the forums specifically meant for -minor things- (this is not remotely a minor thing).</p>
<p>Edit: So wait, is this the same potential issue that&;s been being reported in GA testing here and there (I&;ve seen responses on the admin feed about it)?</p>
<p>Not even touching how it still made it live, how does that not trigger anyone to see the inadequate status of backups/logging?</p>
<p>Edit 2: How far back does the &;no backups&; issue go? Because I know I and a several other users posted about missing data after the November downtime, and we were mostly ignored. If y&;all passed over the chance to discover the issue back then that&;s... I really don&;t even have words for it.

edit: as of typing, bug responded. so there's one point at least. still took an entire, what, EIGHT HOURS after such a flippant nonchalant "lol oopsie" sounding post? i don't blame bug for it, at least they seem to actually give a shit...

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Venom

Pinging cuz it's huge and people need to know about this.

TL;DR: Subeta's had another "oopsie-daisy" that's erased items from your wardrobe. They seem to be the same items across the board (my own observation) but CW's have gone missing as well. The worst part? The staff doesn't have any recent back ups to roll back to. They never realized when the backups stopped backing up, because they "never" needed them before now. Keith's being extremely flippant about this utter disaster of an error and decided to make a forum instead of a news post. He (so far) hasn't replied, no staff has replied. This is concerning.

Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
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Shinoco Damura

Please, please, please, please! Make this a news post, not something tucked away here in the forums. I've been making the rounds to groups I'm part of and 8+ hours later many of them are still not aware and would not be if myself or someone else had not said something.

This needs to be news, not a forum post.

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Mar 27, 2020 5 years ago
Delphi
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illusionary

Thank you Bug for the update

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