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Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago Official
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It's okay to be nervous! Big changes are ahead and we are nervous about it too. But definitely keep telling us your needs and concerns because we really do want to make it as painless as possible. <3

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Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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Holly Daze

I figured as much but still was holding out hope, haha! Thanks for the response.

Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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Tex707
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Damin

Whoo! Thank you! This sounds amazing!

Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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lil_elsie

all to much for but think i might be able to work it out. haha

Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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ACME

Going to be honest, I don't really get it but I'm excited for the updates anyway! I'll just get sure to ask for lots of help when it goes in effect :)

Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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Not a fan of a widget system, tbh. I hate coding user profiles, so I hope this doesn't become similar to that. I do have a couple of questions though.

  1. Will there be any sort of alpha or beta testing of this feature?

  2. How many 'description' sections will be at our disposal? We recently talked about the character limit! I'm excited to see that there will be a separate section for code, but that doesn't really help that much with the character limit issue for me since I import my CSS on heavy profiles. Glad I won't have to do that anymore, though.

  3. You mention new sections will be available? Any hints as to what? I really, really hope it's not a charahub-esque fill in the blank questionnaire. :x

I really hope the transfer feature works well, because I'm not looking forward to the 50 billion messages I'm going to get for profile codes breaking.

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Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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Sapherea

I like when things work automagically :)

I look forward to seeing all the changes in the future. I don't work on my pet profiles at the moment but hope to soon!

Mar 12, 2019 7 years ago
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Sounds exciting! I only occasionally play around with my pet profiles, but this might give me the nudge I need to actually get serious about them! :3

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago
Lea
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Halden

I really, really hope that this is something that gold users will beta test or something, so that we can have a smooth transition to the new profile style and make sure that profile conversion is fairly straightforward. I make a lot of pet profile templates and I would hate to be bombarded with questions from confused people if the process is a pain at first. s:

I'm not as big of a fan of the user profile system as the pet profile system, but part of that comes from the fact that there's no easy way to preview it without pushing updates to your profile. Apologies if this has been asked already and I missed it, but will we keep the ability to preview pet profiles without changing them onsite?

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago Official
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Will this make any impact on the nominated for spotlight pets? It sounds like I don&;t want to lock them into legacy, and I would like to transfer them when you are done so I can change them if I want later. But at the same time I don&;t want to lose the nominations.

It is so early in the process that we haven't gotten that far yet. But rest assured that Bug and I will be working closely with other staff to work out what will happen in regards to spotlight. In the past, we have always tried to assist users with big transitions like this. This change will be no different. For now we are allowing user discussion regarding the pet spotlight and some possible changes that everyone would like to see. Once we get closer to changing the system, we will know more about how this will affect the queue and the pets in there. Below is the board for anyone wanting to take a look and/or post!

Pet Spotlight Suggestions

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago
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Thank you! I appreciate you answering and letting us know. :)

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago Official
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For some reason right now with Elfric&;s profile, whenever I go to make changes on it, I get a constant cloudflare/captcha error that&;s really annoying. Will that too disappear in the new profile sysetem?
As has mentioned in the past, this is due to Cloudflare's security system getting triggered. The CAPTCHA happens before your input even reaches our servers at all. Thus, it's unclear whether the new system will also have this problem. However, since it seems to correlate with submitting long profiles, it's likely the new system will mitigate this by allowing you to split up your profile content into multiple, smaller sections.

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How many &;description&; sections will be at our disposal? We recently talked about the character limit! I&;m excited to see that there will be a separate section for code, but that doesn&;t really help that much with the character limit issue for me since I import my CSS on heavy profiles. Glad I won&;t have to do that anymore, though.
You'll be allowed multiple description sections. Just having one extra section will double the amount of space available, so space should hopefully no longer be an issue! Realistically there needs to be a limit, but what the limit should be will become clearer after initial testing and usage statistics.

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I&;m not as big of a fan of the user profile system as the pet profile system, but part of that comes from the fact that there&;s no easy way to preview it without pushing updates to your profile. Apologies if this has been asked already and I missed it, but will we keep the ability to preview pet profiles without changing them onsite?
Yes! I do want to clarify that while this system is also modular, it's not going to be a user profiles clone. We learned a lot from user profiles, and here, we want to expand on the best parts of user profiles while learning from its mistakes.

I also wanted to offer reassurance that we'll beta test it before it's released to everyone. We want this to go smoothly as much as you do, and we're putting a lot of thought and effort into ensuring it goes as smoothly as possible. :)

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago
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so what you're telling me is i can have 1000 description sections B)

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago
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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago
Lea
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Thank you so much! This is a huge relief. : D I'm really excited to see how things will be different from the user profiles! While I love that user profiles make it easy to choose what is displayed and what isn't, I've always found them a little annoying to work with, so it's great to hear that you guys are trying to learn from some of the issues we've had with user profiles. I'm so looking forward to this, honestly!

There's one other thing I had been wondering about the future of pet profiles, if you don't mind me asking. Is there any possibility that with the new pet profile system, we'll be able to work with some Bootstrap options that currently aren't compatible with pet profiles? Or is that unlikely? I was specifically thinking about toggleable tabs here, like I often see on toyhou.se character profiles. I do understand if it won't be possible; I have basic understanding of some CSS but I'm not sure about more complex things, especially how safe or likely they might be for petsites, haha. I'd just been wondering if this is a thing that might ever be possible, or if it's not likely to happen.

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago
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I hope so, cause it is super irritating to deal with lol. Odds are I'll be doing Elfric a new profile anyways, so hopefully with the new system, I won't have to deal with that ever again.

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Mar 13, 2019 7 years ago Official
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Is there any possibility that with the new pet profile system, we&;ll be able to work with some Bootstrap options that currently aren&;t compatible with pet profiles? Or is that unlikely? I was specifically thinking about toggleable tabs here, like I often see on toyhou.se character profiles.
We won't be allowing custom JavaScript, because it poses a huge security risk.

It is likely that Bootstrap's JS/CSS will be included on the page by default, to power the responsive parts of the default layout. So, in theory, I think you could get some JS things to work by building divs with Bootstrap's classes. However, I advise profile coders to be wary of relying on this dependency. If a new Bootstrap version comes out with changes that break compatibility, and we update the page to include the newer version, then your code will break if it's still relying on the older version of Bootstrap.

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One thing we've done in the past is create sCode tags powered by scripts; for example, the [tt]spoiler[/tt] tag uses JavaScript to open and close the spoiler. That's a relatively safe way to give users the ability to format things in a way that requires scripts. I'd be open to adding things like toggleable tabs to sCode in the future, but not as an open-ended thing. I love this option because, in addition to being secure, it also puts the burden of maintenance on us rather than you. That is: say you are using sCode that outputs toggleable tabs based on Bootstrap, and we want to update the version of Bootstrap we use. We can make sure to update the sCode's output at the same time, so you never need to worry about updating anything on your end.

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Mar 14, 2019 7 years ago
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Thanks so much for the explanation! It really helped clear things up. I thought there might be some kind of potential security risk because of the Javascript but I wasn't sure, so I thought I would ask because it had been on my mind for a while and, well, we're talking about the future of pet profiles anyway... It's also exciting to hear that in the future, there may be some way to implement like this via sCode. Though I swear I'm not trying to beg or anything xD; I totally understand if it would be quite a while or if it just never happens. Not exactly something that needs to be a priority, and I know you guys have a ton on your plates to begin with. Anyway, thanks again!

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Mar 15, 2019 7 years ago
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I would love if we can call on the typical bootstrap classes (like to make a grid or basic card widgets or special buttons)

[edit] I would also LOVEE if we could have an sCode for random images the same way we have it for random words! instead of this: Chocolate, this: [img[/img]----]

For the widget system, instead of making it like the user profiles where you actually have to have the profile open and move things around, can it be like a separate page like this? https://subeta.net/preferences.php?act=sidebar https://subeta.net/preferences.php?act=bookmarks where we can organize the things without directly looking at the pet profile? (or have it as an option) cause its annoying to take CSS out just to edit the widgets u_u

Mar 15, 2019 7 years ago Official
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You'll be able to toggle the CSS when editing.

(I just wanted to clarify we may not use Bootstrap. I don't want anyone to think we are promising that! And whatever we do use to power the layout, I will strongly discourage relying too heavily on it, for the reasons I explained in my last post - that is, because these are dependencies you will have no control over. We will make this clear in the editor.)

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