So, what I'm getting from this is that Elwood and Connor are, even if indirectly, related to each other (and to this plot)?

Interesting.

There's a new page in the Subeta wiki for this plot, if anyone is interested: http://subeta.wikia.com/wiki/2018_Morostide_Plot

It has the first two steps so far, along with all of the dialogue if you wanted to go back and reread anything.

Yes, I knew they said it would be narrative-heavy, but they really weren't kidding.

Some sort of official family tree would be nice, but I'm not really sure if it's really required for the plot. More like just a fun thing to think about.

Well, we know that Elwood is at least related to Jaxon, and he may or may not be related to Connor (but from the way the families were described it seems likely).

Whether or not they will actually be involved in the plot, it's hard to say right now.

I thought the "mirror" saw the evil intentions of the Skellys and cast a curse on them, wiping them out. But said curse only affected FULL-BLOODED Skellys. Or the Skellys died due to the side-effects of in-breeding, who knows. But Jaxon himself may have to do a test of redemption to get that new body....

That might be why Jaxon is still here while the other Skellys are gone. Though I wish frideswithe had become a ghost as well; the Dungarde doesn't seem to hate her.

I got excited and started speculating over on TLDR&;s Morostide Plot Guide [Spoilers]. Quoting these posts over to here for ease of discussion!

I doubt that a lot... another Dungarde is already an opponent from previous years (one of those monthly CSC challengers). I guess it'll only be helpful to indicate the next locations to explore/find Jaxon's corpse, and there we'll face other dangers.

[edit]oops, lots of people already told this, I was reading the post from page 6 to this xD

Another thing I thought of: maybe there's some more stuff that happened after Jaxon's death that he has no knowledge of either.

I'm not exactly sure how it works, but if there's some sort of time delay between dying and becoming a ghost, then there could be some things that happened after he died but before he came back that he doesn't know about. Like, we at least know that he doesn't remember his actual death or what happened to his body after. So who knows what else could be missing from his memory during that period of time.

Wait, what's Elwood's family line. Also, you look like garnet. 😆

Agreed. Jaxon may have to face some horrible truths about himself.... Good thing he's got Ian and us, right? But I'm wondering if Jaxon's past will be similar to Gunter's?

i've got my fingers crossed jaxon maybe finds a family tapestry in storage after all this is over, haha c:

and good point about his memory... lots of holes in the story rn, o:

THIS! I really, really hope they do that. I mean, the stepping thing. I guess we'll see crystals all around Subeta until it culminates in the biggest plot ever seen. That'd be awesome. Actually, the crystals should appear like, in Arctic Frost and Shengui Guo... So we have an appearance in every continent, and the big plot explaining them happens in the Centropolis-Riverside-Veta continent.

That's a good question. Was Jaxon alive during the first colonist wave or the second? I think it might be the latter. During the first wave, the humans couldn't deal with the environment and they keeled over from magic poisoning (and the local monsters.) They couldn't even keep themselves alive, I doubt the Tehb would have considered them much of a threat. During second wave, when the fort was founded, humans had developed treatments for magical poisoning and were much more prosperous. The article says that the Tehb natives were allies to them and helped them out, but I wouldn't be surprised if those four prominent families held different views than the rest of the populace. Humans might disrupt their power over society, after all. shrugs That's just a guess though.

thanks for the ping! That's an idea I can get on board with (the crystals popping up everywhere). That would be epic!

Elwood is Jaxon's distant cousin, but since the Skelly line died with Jaxon, it means he's actually related to one of the other three families (I'd initially discard the Rainsongs, since there's nothing that proves that he and Connor are directly related, which leave eithers Nightshade or Graves as his possible bloodlines; I'll speculate it's Nightshade, because Elwood Nightshade sounds REALLY cool.)

Also... thank you! Good thing my Garnet cosplay is recognizable! <3

Elwood From an English surname which was derived from a place name meaning "elder tree forest" in Old English.

• From behindthename.com

I would not be surprised in the slightest if Elwood's last name was Nightshade. :P

I thought I remembered something in Bad Omens that said there were supposed to be three of these crystal locations (so Shadowglen would be the final one), but I can't find any of the text from that plot to confirm. Does this sound familiar to anyone else?

Yeah, I'm guessing he was probably alive closer to the founding of the fort, but the exact timeline is a bit hard to pin down right now. I also wonder if they're going to end up retconning some of that older lore to fit in with the story they have planned for this, but I'm not sure.

But I do agree that the general Tehb population may have felt differently about the humans being there than the 4 major families, so that might come into play at some point.

It would be cool to learn a bit more about Elwood's ancestry eventually, even if he doesn't really fit directly into this plot. I really like him as a character.

I don't remember there being anything specifically about three locations, but I can't seem to find much info from that plot right now either. Although, if there was a mention of that it could have meant three intentional locations with the temples. This location in Shadowglen did mention that the crystals were "wild" and I guess growing on their own, instead of being placed there for a specific purpose like the first two locations. So maybe this one doesn't count towards that, IDK.

that's good to know. I love how subeta introduces parts of it's lore long before that lore becomes plot relevant. really makes it feel like a solidly developed world.

Speaking of possible plot nuggets i wonder if there could be anything relevant about Quentin's line of "time flies when you're hiding out in a graveyard" on their quest page and the fact that they're a distant relative of the Char family, but aren't close to that part of their family. It's not too likely that it will come up during this plot(if at all) , but i'm curious about why they're "hiding out" Especially now that we're learning more about subeta's major families

yup, Subeta really makes great plot storylines. I'm not sure about the Quentin part, and as you said, it's pretty unlikely that we'll have any connection with them in this plot, but we might have some sorth of general explanation about their race, that seems to have originated the Tehb. About the line from their quests, it might just be about them hiding from people who visit the graveyard (mainly during Moro) and users doing quests in general. Like, they doesn't want to be bothered, so they hide.

[edit] was that from the Omen Island Plot? I can't remember about the crystals in A Bad Omen, so I'm not really sure because I wasn't around during the first one xD

"In the dead of night, under the cover of stealth, the four houses came together and devised that they would work against the humans under the guise of friendship."

Jaxon told us today that his family sometimes took advantage of him because he was maybe a little naive. If the Skedhu is really a human settlement, then I wonder if maybe he was sent as a kind of Trojan horse, where he thought he was going out on a diplomatic mission but his family was orchestrating some kind of trap or ambush behind the scenes.

Going a step further, we know Jaxon wasn't buried in the family crypt but don't know why. If both his parents were really Skellys, then it can't be because he wasn't a full-blooded Tehb. Maybe he befriended the humans and turned on his own family when he found out what they were plotting?

Some other assorted thoughts:

• Someone today mentioned how the ancient inhabitants of Shadowglen were seen as gods. That, along with the tentacled Wurlm and the Lovecraft-inspired items released over the past few years makes me wonder if we're building up to some sort of Subetan version of Cthulu.

• Ian says he's fine today, but concealed injuries are a major trope, and they rarely end well. I wonder if this is going to be important later.

• Jaxon (and the rest of the Tehb, to an extent) seems to be partly inspired by vampire mythology. It seems like it might be more than a coincidence that he should meet his end going up against the Looking Glass.

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That's possible. I always assumed the crystals were either from the Sacred Lands (because we saw them there first) or were somehow related to the magic in the temples, but maybe the crystals are native to Shadowglen.

PLEASE DON'T LET ANYTHING HAPPEN TO IAN!

But yeah, I thought Jaxon might have had a bad run-in with the Looking Glass as well. In fact, I theorized the ENTIRE Skelly line got cursed by the looking glass and that's why no descendants remain (except for the ones that come from the Rainsong-Skelly marriage).

Jaxon is only here because he didn't fall into his relatives' pride and xenophobia (?). Your idea of him turning against his family to help the humans seems sound and lines up well with my theory.

You're right. The timeline is unclear and we really don't have much of anything to go off of. Retconning is also a possibility. I know Quentin's article still mentions that their origin is unknown, whereas other articles refer to them as Ji-Meneb. It's clear that Quentin's lore/article was written before they came up with the Ji-Meneb as a race.