@ Saren Oh, hey! Thanks for the ping, I'd be happy to explain what I meant. c:

It's really not hard to draw the obvious connection between Christmas/Lumi, angelic and nostalgic pets. Just like it isn't hard to draw the conclusion between pepperminty candycane colour schemes and Christmas. Most angelic pets are released in December, with a few stragglers in the first week of January. Nostalgic pets are mostly released during December/Lumi, but also occasionally very very sparsely dotted throughout the year.

I did goof with the glacier pets (they're mostly released in January), I admit that completely. But even without them on the list, I find it hard to squeeze peppermint pets into an already nicely filled December/Luminaire schedule. And I really do not want a Luminaire repeat of the situation where, for two years, Fireside mostly had harvest pets and only 1-2 reborns (mostly revamps, iirc). ._. [sub]I don't even like harvest pets, but that's beside the point.[/sub]

Going by the logic of "we'd like a new wintery/Luminaire pet colour, please!", I mentioned aurora pets because I'd rather have something a little more invested, creative and less strictly Luminaire-bound than a candycane christmas-themed recolour of sweetheart pets.

To me, it kinda seems like a lot of work for the artists. Especially when so many other pets need revamps and so many new pets need special colours. D:

If we were to have a recolor of sweetheart pets, I'd rather not have them be another pink recolor.

It also wouldn't work well for a common recolor, because we already have a light pink color - Dawn

Okay, reading more of the OP I'd like to say that I support the suggestion of having a Peppermint color in general, but I'd like to see them be more of their own thing than just a recolor of existing poses, if they were to be done.

Also dude, you don't need to be so rude just because people disagree with your suggestion. They're bringing up some valid points, chill out a bit.

No thank you. I already immensely dislike how harvest pets have pretty much 'taken over' fireside. All the years before they came out, we always got a lot of reborns. Now? Harvest harvest harvest harvest and maybe one or two reborns, if we're lucky. The first year harvest pets came out was absolutely flooded with them.

I'd rather have new poses than another recolor.

And angelic. Lumi already has 2-3 colors, more than any other holiday on site. We're not 'lacking' anything. Lumi is right on par with the other holidays.

And because people have been mentioning it, I'm pretty sure the main reason we don't get as many new Reborn pets during Fireside anymore is because almost all of the pet species are available in that color now.

Bhakoru Qrykee Yaherra Zasaba Zentu

Those are the only ones I counted that don't have Reborn versions yet, and 4/5 of those are relatively new pet species in general.

... Dang, that's awesome! I wasn't expecting so few pets on the list, I was sure that there were more missing reborns than that!

I'd still not want a repeat of the harvest pet flood we've had the first year or two, though. ._. That really soured harvest pets for me. I was looking forward to seeing reborn pets for Fireside (either new or revamped), and the harvest ones were unexpected and prevalent when I wasn't interested in them to begin with.

I'm sure there are people out there who would feel the same way about any new pet colour/recolour that's released in a large amount compared to the "old" pet colours and revamps we're used to seeing during the holiday. I wouldn't mind a huge release of a new pet colour (15+ species listed by name, 3-5 visual examples to keep the news post small), but trickling a large number of them throughout just one holiday feels like it smothers out everything else. Just my two cents on that situation.

Yeah, I wasn't really directing that post at anyone in particular, I just saw it brought up by a few times and wanted to throw that out there as an explanation.

But this is part of why I kind of like seeing new colors suggested (almost) no matter what they are. I know not everything is going to be made into a pet color, but as more of the older colors get full we'll need to have some new colors added over time if people still want/expect that sort of content during certain holidays.

It's hard to make everyone happy though. If they release a bunch of a new color at once, people can feel overwhelmed or burnt out on it too soon, especially if it's a color they're not really fond of to begin with. If only a few pets at a time each year get released in the newer color, you'll get people posting "Why didn't you release this pet in the new color??"

IDK where I'm going with this now, but yeah I think it's cool to see suggestions for any new color really, and staff can decide whatever they want to do with that. I wasn't trying to discourage discussion or anything, but the main point I guess is that a lot of the older colors are getting full by now, so it makes sense that the newer colors would be "taking over" in a sense.

For the record, I think an Aurora pet color would be pretty cool as well!

That's a very good point about the old colours getting filled and finished up, but I think that they'll still keep coming out over the years because the art staff here is always working on bringing things up to the current site standard.

New colour releases are a fine line to tread and I think they did it pretty well with vibrant pets? A bunch released at once, then more are slowly trickled out over the months. That would be difficult to pull off with holiday-specific pet colours, though. A mix of the two would be good, possibly? New pet colour gets a massive release first year, second year it trickles down to a standard 2-4 pets in that colour. idk. knows about the math and reasoning behind this better than I do.

I know you weren't trying to discourage discussion, no worries! We're on the same page here, I think? We'll definitely need new colours, even with the revamps (what do you do when you revamp ALL of the things? :o) and pet colour suggestions are good, but with big suggestions like pet colours, it helps to keep an open mind to help polish things up, and to not take every "no, sorry" as a personal attack on your person. :/

In this case, I didn't like the initial idea because it was presented as a recolour without really considering how much effort, time and creativity that recolour would take. After thinking about it, I wouldn't mind the pet colour as a standalone, or even a commonpose colour, but it's not going really to work that easily as a recolour of sweetheart pets.

Besides, you have tons of candycane colours! Green, red, even black (yes "goth"/licorice candycanes are a thing!). Heck, you have the whole rainbow at your disposal, and then some. It would be possible to spice things up beyond the standard white/pink/red range.

oh peppermint pets would be amazing!!!

That's a good point too, a decent number of the older colors still desperately need revamps. But then yeah, those will eventually be finished as well.

And that is a good idea about the candy cane colors! I hadn't thought of that but it would be cool to see like different "flavors" being used as inspiration for the color schemes.

Yeah, Reborn is mostly finished up now, outside of missing combinations and a couple revamps that will eventually be done. It's an old colour, like Graveyard, so it makes sense that it's pretty much at the point of finishing up. So that leaves only Harvest left for fireside, until a new colour idea can be thought up (and with the latest release of the Reborn Mahar, my idea for magma pets is pretty much all about shot now).

Anyways, back to Peppermint: if it were a regular colourfill, then yes, I suppose it would be fine. But I would definitely say no support for it being a redraw colour or a recolour of Sweetheart.

@ Laurey Yup! Because there's standard candy-canes... And then, there's next level candy canes. 👀

Wacky flavors to match the colours? They got you covered. More colour combos. A rainbow at your disposal. More wild colours! Slightly more traditional. Slightly. Very slightly. What's that? You want pastels? Say no more!

Go to Google image search, search for "colorful candy canes". Tons to work with!

The pet could either be the standard traditional pink/white/red combo, or they can mix it up a little to make things interesting. Keep a white/pale base with darker swirlies, but go wild with the colour choices, like they did with vibrant pets. Just stick with the paler base, white fur/mane/fluff tufts, darker swirlies/stripes scheme. Doesn't scream peppermint/candycane? Good! The result is a non-holiday pet colour that fits well with the original idea, but can be released year-round.

Just... literally throwing more ideas and suggestions at the wall here and seeing what sticks.

I'm not a huge fan of this mostly because of the color.. we already have pink and red. And if u deviate outside the traditional colors it might as well not be holiday themed, imo.. Maybe if it wasn't just candy..but maybe holly, lights, bows, ornaments, christmas sweaters, something holiday or festive, on a pet would be cute.

Mmm. No interest unless they're colorfills or a Sweetheart re-visit. Peppermint as a concept just doesn't really warrant its own unique color, not compared to concepts like Reborn pets, Angelic pets, etc etc etc. You know? The plushies are cute and all, but they don't seem special enough to be a unique color.

I'd rather see more creative colors with new poses (still waiting on a Saheric / Sacred pet color tbh, I would absolutely love this for multiple pets of mine) rather than recolors/revisits of older ones, or at least more revamps of outdated color-species combos.

Tbh I'm pretty tired of seeing an already special colour get a recolour. Blacklight could've gone a different way, the harvest pets had so much potential than to be a bland recolour of glade which is vibrant and lovely.

If a peppermint pet gets made I'd rather it have it's own specialness, and not a basic base recolour. (Seriously, Aqua would've been stellar as an actual water themed pet instead of a base recolour. You can arvue we hsve Hydrus for that but Hudrus is mpre to do with creature than water to me.)

Also I'd like to point out that when you make a suggestion thread you're bound to get people who don't agree. Not everyone is going to like an idea and literally no ones had an attitude on this forum so maybe take your own advice and chill dude? People may not like it but they're not being dicks about it.

Suggestions are about ideas forming into opinions forming into improvements forming into a solution for said idea. When you make a suggextion you open yourself up to a whole new world of possibilities and objections. It's up to you to not take objections personally and instead figure out how you can take an objection and improve on it.

You have a solid foundation to build from. Don't give it up. :)

[Edit] I would fucking love an ugly sweater themed pet ngl. XD Holly would be lovely as well!! Or a combination with the lights and bows. I like your thoughts. ^_^

First of all, I find it rather disheartening that a discussion isn’t allowed to be a discussion? Just because people disagree with the suggestion, doesn’t mean they’re saying it shouldn’t exist. I don’t drink milk, but I don’t go around telling people to stop drinking milk. Your first post essentially is telling people that they’re not allowed to disagree or critique you, which isn’t how discussion (or life) works.

Second, I’m not a huge fan of this idea being implemented onto the sweetheart pets. Maybe a basic pose colorfill, but considering that older pets are still getting revamps and newer pets don’t have that many unique colors, I’d rather an idea like this be put on the back burner. It just doesn’t seem interesting enough to warrant its own unique pose like the special colors, though it has potential if it’s done well.

man I really want a sandstorm/saheric color. ;;

I like the idea of Peppermint pets in general. The plushies are adorable. But I don't really have a suggestion for how to make the color itself more unique. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing it as a recolor of a different color (like Harvest + Glade) but idk which color I'd want to see it as.

I edited the first post with the info that most of us want a completely new pet color, not only a recolor!

Yeah but when we use a coded overlay it will only show on the pet's page VS a color would be shown everywhere. Hope that makes sense?

That's what I meant with "ecolor Sweetheart pets with peppermint, candy cane, christmas-y colors and [i]themes/i]." Like little ornaments hanging from the antlers of the Antlephore, maybe some tinsel strings tangles in the Aeanoid's tentales, candy canes and maybe even gingerbread man to replace the candy hearts, and so on, the list is only limited by creativity. Will try to make it clearer in the OP. ^^

If you come back and read the first page there are people that say the color shouldn't be a thing because they don't like it :/

But! I'll be editing my first post to sound more open to discussions how it should be, thanks for the heads-up

@ SAMARITAN That makes more sense! So it's more of a Christmas colour idea you're pushing for, not strictly peppermint?

With the original OP, my first thought was "sweetheart pets, but with peppermint patterns and holiday candies". And that, to me, seemed repetitive and like more trouble than it's worth for a recolour of an already existing candy colour. ._. That's why I said no to the original idea, but kept tossing other ideas around and discussing it with people, like the candycane variations.

I wouldn't mind candyswirl, or stripy pets! But I'm not really sold on the idea of something potentially kitschy that screams "CHRISTMAS!" and seems out of place during the rest of the year. And something about that depiction of holidays/Christmas rubs me the wrong way from the start. Eh. -shrug emoji-

Maybe a visual example would help? The only thing that comes to mind with the mention of a Christmas pet colour are the cringe-worthy Christmas-coloured Marapets critters. 😟