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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
Muerte
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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
Erelyna
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I hope that whatever ends up happening it's not limited like some people are suggesting. I don't mind limited colors, but changing a previously constantly available(as long as you had the map) color to a limited one would not be cool. =/

Edit: Actually, if people really want a Keelhauliday limited color, why not a variation of Hydrus like Harvest is to Glade? I'd like to see an ocean theme with blues and greens, personally. :D

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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I would even love like a Where&;s Merana mini thing where like tempest she randomly shows up on the explore screen and if you click on her she can grant you a hydrus pet so long as you don&;t tell anyone where she currently was. That should be easy to implement as a placeholder until the real plan comes or something while still being rare.
even better (or in this case more specifically, I guess), how about you stumble upon her hideout somehow and you have to appease her with a sufficient sacrifice (and new minion/your pet) in hopes she won't gut you like a fish for knowing where she is? :p

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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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You mean an item sacrifice or someone else?


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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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You mean an item sacrifice or someone else?


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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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I don&;t mind limited colors, but changing a previously constantly available(as long as you had the map) color to a limited one would not be cool. =/

We literally had 10 years to go and get it easily, there is nothing wrong with something that was easy to get for a decade to be more limited if the lore goes in that way.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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I don&;t mind hydrus being unavailable for a while, I&;m just afraid of how long that might be. If we have to wait an entire year for Bad Omen Part II to bring hydrus back, that&;s too long.</p>
<p>It&;s only been a month so I don&;t want to freak out yet, but remember when we had to wait like 4 months for anything to happen in Shengui Guo after its release? That was a bad decision and I don&;t want to see that release model repeated.

Basically why we've been talking about it over Skype and why wanted to make a topic about it. D: Glad replied and cleared it up! There are holidays coming back to back from now until Vesnali and we weren't sure if they'd find the time to squeeze this in due to burnout, or if it's been forgotten because of the holiday hassle.

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I don&;t mind limited colors, but changing a previously constantly available(as long as you had the map) color to a limited one would not be cool. =/

We literally had 10 years to go and get it easily, there is nothing wrong with something that was easy to get for a decade to be more limited if the lore goes in that way.

There's a difference between something being limited but otherwise available year-round for a hefty price (and a big heap of luck), and something being available for 1-2 weeks only with a sidenote of "haha sucks to be you if you can't be here for every holiday. :D :D :D"

If they can make it so you can obtain the blessing year-round for a fee, but it's available during Keelhauliday for free, that's fine with me. It's basically what they did with the genderless robot pets for Masquerade and the genderless berry. If you don't mind waiting to get it for basically free - yay! If you don't mind cashing out, it's still available year-round for a nice amount of sP (and you don't have to get anyone else involved to transfer pets ad nauseam so you can get your hydrus critter). Everybody's happy, the colour is available all the time and Keelhauliday gets a cool little bonus to it. Win-win!

Would also be down for a non-cursed potion variation of hydrus that works with the system mentioned above. :X I doubt Jacques would be too happy if he found out we were peddling his completely-legally-acquired goods to Merana to get our pets cursed, he's still upset about what happened to Amy.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
Erelyna
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  1. Because there's no such thing as new users, right?
  2. I'm supposed to plan out every pet I could possibly want and make sure I get those that could possibly change first?
  3. Not every species is even available as hydrus yet.

I'm not a fan of the idea of changing it to once-a-year(although it sounds like that won't be the case) or of limiting it to REs(because seriously, I rarely get any RE at all and I imagine it'd be just as frustrating for others, too). However, I don't mind it being made more of an sp sink or being more involved, like doing activities around the site or something. There's no reason the lore couldn't fit something like that; we don't necessarily need Merana to curse our pets, her temple is right there on the island. This is a game, first and foremost; the lore shouldn't take away from the fun of it, it should add to it.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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Hyacinthe

Because the map was totally fair for new users, especially when it was around 45M to complete the set. Yeah, totally fairer than having the color unlimited for 10 days

Since when people actually LIKED having a color locked behind a map?

From what I remember, nobody liked the mechanics of Hydrus (being account tied, the quests being permanent on a pet, until recently, it was impossible to cancel a quest, the items being random means that you could end up with having to spend several millions on a quest...)

This is like saying people like the mechanics of Steamworks taking three days to get.

The Hydrus mechanics were user unfriendly, clunky and were often at the mercy of map oligopols, where a couple users could buy the entire supply of a map piece to gouge prices. The fact that the pets reverted to Common in the pound also made the system even more biased towards buying the map.

It was not fun.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
Erelyna
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The whole map is a little over 600k right now. I wasn't aware that they had gotten up to 45mil, but clearly something changed. And things being expensive =/= limited. Heck, if you want an angelic potion with sp you're spending way more than 45mil, and I wouldn't call that limited since it's available when you want it.

Regardless, staff has the opportunity to make it more user-friendly now. I'd just rather not see something that used to only be dependent on sp become solely luck or timing based.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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Anyone care to call me exactly what happened to Merana? With the site not working for me and being busy with a full-time college schedule, I don't know what happened, and to finally find out I can't use my map for literately the only reason I got it is really, really aggravating, especially between the lack of communication from staff overall that's been going on.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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The most recent plot that just happened like last month took place on the Omen Islands. At the end of the plot, we accidentally broke the spell that was keeping Merana contained to the island. So now she's escaped and is wandering around who knows where around Subeta's waters, so she's not currently at her temple on the island.

According to staff, there will be a way to get hydrus pets again in the future. We just have no idea what that will be yet, or if Merana is coming back or setting up somewhere else or what. We'll have to wait and see.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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Okay thanks, I appreciate it! Hopefully it's just a move to make hydrus attainable the usual way, just without the map, or something (or her just... taking a vacation, I guess). :( Though the fact it's been over a month - with I (assume) to further mention - doesn't exactly... feel the most comforting.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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You mean an item sacrifice or someone else?
I meant it would be basically the same quest, just under different 'circumstances'. so some items to appease her and 'offering up' a pet to be turned hydrus (and thus another giving her another minion)

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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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My post was mainly a joke. Like the whole sacrifice an npc sort of deal.


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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
Muerte
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On a more thread-related comment, I don't mind this being unavailable for a time being (personally I do wonder how many people that NEED a hydrus pet RIGHT NOW would have been seeking one if this had not happened). They aren't retired, and pet colors aren't always available and easier to get (Hell, not everyone could get one as it HAD ITS LIMITS). I actually have a feeling this is going to make it more available, though it could also make it more expensive (I remember back when I first joined a lot of people complained that it was too expensive to finish her quests). The site has already decided on what they are going to do, there's really no point in suggesting anything. And I am excited to see what's to come.

Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
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There is always a point in suggesting stuff! Bob the Fishing Ontra was actually her 2nd in command and his disappearance was him preparing to set her free!!! WHOA WHOA THERE


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Oct 16, 2016 9 years ago
Muerte
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Oct 18, 2016 9 years ago
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I really hope this gets resolved soon. I was hoping there would be a way to obtain hydrus normally after the plot, but we're still waiting on it...

(I don't need it personally, but it's an unnecessary wait for people that spent the money to unlock it.)

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Oct 18, 2016 9 years ago
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Yeah, they said it would come back, but this timeline seems more stretched than I would've guessed.

Also putting my standard "please give us a way to drop her quests for the love of all that is good" 2 cents in. Or at least show us -what pet it is for-. At least the whole 'pets keep their quests even in the pound/after adoption' thing got fixed.

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