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Sep 12, 2017 8 years ago
feral
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The lines definitely look a lot better and it's much easier to see the hand!

I'm not fully sure about the shading though. Now I feel like I can kind of only see highlights and a few very small areas of shading (mostly near the bottom is the only place I can see the shading). I think maybe the shading might be looking too soft instead of cell shaded now? I'm not entirely sure.

Sep 24, 2017 8 years ago
Yethi
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Username --- Link to the overlay(s) --- click click Link to the CI --- Not required for denial.

What do you need help with --- As these are glow items, I'm not sure how lineart should be added, if at all? There are more than a handful of onsite glow items (and several non-glow items) that do not have any lineart. I'm not sure if it would be viable to have the releasers re-submit with those as examples if no changes are to be made?

It did come up in my discussion with one of the releasers that the "glow" for her halo may not have enough spread in the glow, in which I did a mock-up of how that would look, but she concluded it would ultimately defeat the effect she was aiming for.

Was there a denial --- The armwrap and anklet are submitted by one releaser and the halo by another.

ARMWRAP Releaser only indicated that this was an original item in the notes. • OVERLAY: Lacks lineart • NOTE: While I get this is supposed to be a glow, since it is jewelry there really needs to be some sort of lineart -- even if it's not black.
ANKLET Releaser only indicated that this was an original item in the notes. • OVERLAY: See denial reasons on the recolor of this item • OVERLAY: Lacks lineart
HALO Releaser did not put any information in the notes and the item name did not indicate that the item was a glow (they did however, indicate it was a halo). • OVERLAY: Blurry artwork
VARIOUS ITEMS WITH LINELESS GLOW For reference.

Optional Can we take a look at the PSD files --- If necessary, of course. Can we redline --- Yep

Thank you for any help!

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Sep 27, 2017 8 years ago
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im not too sure to be honest, my feeling is that the 'glow' isnt prominent enough to be considered a 'glow' and thus it looks more like jewelry than a halo. Does that make sense? ;;

I guess I could see why it needs lineart in the sense that it looks like a tangible idea rather than a halo-type. If adding more glow really isn't an option, you could try adding a thin, semi-transparent lineart so that it has a bit more substance!

Otherwise you could also try re-submitting and attach an image of similar items that have no lineart!

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Sep 28, 2017 8 years ago
Yethi
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Thank you so much for the response!! ❤️

HALO UPDATE Spread the glow so that the core of the halo looks a lot more prominent. Releaser has chosen to go with option .

ARM WRAP Going one by one with this... Left is the original. Middle is with a grey semi-transparent line, glow area increased slightly. Right is the middle version, but with the lines a little more opaque.

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Sep 28, 2017 8 years ago
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i definitely think that the halo looks more like one, I dont see why it wouldnt be accepted!

The arm thing is a tad bit confusing, probably because it's a smaller item. Have you tried perhaps adding a bit more glow onto the pearls - and then abit less on the string part? ;o

It looks good though, def more halo-type than jewelry!

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Sep 28, 2017 8 years ago
Yethi
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That's reassuring to hear!

And yes, I do agree the arm wrap is quite dainty already so it's been a little tough to adjust it properly. x.x

Same order but removed the string glow. The Middle one might be a little wild...since the pearls (stars, heh) are fairly close, the glow keeps intersecting. The Right I toned it back down (this one does have the slightly more opaque lineart).

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Sep 28, 2017 8 years ago
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i personally think the third one is a good in-between of what you're trying to achieve and what i -think- could qualify as a halo/glow!

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Sep 28, 2017 8 years ago
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Alright, we'll roll with that and see what happens! Thank you for the assistance!

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Oct 5, 2017 8 years ago
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Username --- Link to the overlay(s) --- click click Link to the CI --- Nothing yet! What do you need help with --- Is this alright? I mean, I've always had trouble with the shading in CW's ;v;

Was there a denial --- Nope, not yet

Optional Can we take a look at the PSD files --- Like, to give them to you? If so, I don't have psd files, but sai files... Can we redline --- Absolutely :D

Thank you very much! (and sorry for before, I did not understood x.x)

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Oct 7, 2017 8 years ago
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Pinging for you :)

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Oct 25, 2017 8 years ago
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Username --- Link to the overlay(s) --- click click

What do you need help with --- Denial.. Was there a denial --- • OVERLAY: Submission can be logically separated into two or more items. • NOTE: There is too much going on here for us to accept it as a solo custom item -- it is an outfit, a prop, AND a partial background. The shirt would be achievable with layering, and the carousel base, bars, and top frame are not necessary to achieve the moved limbs. The pants + moved legs + horse itself are all okay to be one item, but this is not acceptable as is. Optional Okay so the item that was denied is on the <<< side. They think pants,moved legs,horse are okay but truth is I need the frame to hide portion of the feet. If i made the legs longer,bigger would it still look right??

or do i have to make it Horse Foreground/frame outfit

as different submissions. what is the best way to handle this but still keeping true to the design that is passable?

Thank you!

Can we take a look at the PSD files --- yes Can we redline --- yes

Oct 25, 2017 8 years ago
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Either way - I would remove the shirt, that way any shirt can be layered under the horse. Keep the base (that the horse is attached to), and submit the frame separately...I think it could work as its own standalone piece. OR, you could remove the frame and base, and add a long drapey saddle decoration (maybe something like this to cover the HA's foot, and submit the frame/base separately.

Oct 25, 2017 8 years ago
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heyoo i love body mods im so dumb i did a bit of doodling to see if it can meet the denial req~

MAIN CHANGE: lengthening the tail!!!11 will in essence block most of the legs. you can take this suggestion as is, but i did do more tweaking to it.

other changes:

  1. drop the height of the front leg of the human. it looks really strained in the original one, but maybe thats just me?

  2. pushed the carousel pole much further to the left to give it a 3/4 look. this also gives more leg room (literally)

  3. the horse has a few changes, pushing the head forward, narrowing the gap between the front legs, and proportioning the back legs.

and yeah, thats what i can think of! i love this body mod btw, ive always wanted to do one on a horse but i keep failing - youve nailed it perfectly and im super impressed! v

edit: i just realised the horse is supposed to be sheer... T.T i think you'd have to make the tail more opaque or add some mist or something in order to fully block the leg. but otherwise i think its okay idk q.q

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Nov 10, 2017 8 years ago
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;o;/ Username --- Spirited Link to the overlay(s) --- large smol/set ci --- click What do you need help with --- shading/ foregrounds Was there a denial ---nope

Optional I'd just like to see if theres anything glaring that might nab this one a denial. It's pretty experimental on my part and there's a few different techniques going on when it comes to the shading across the different items involved (which you'll see on the large version). I'm trying to make it so it can sit with other bg's mainly.

Thank you in advance!

Can we take a look at the PSD files --- yus Can we redline --- yus

I'll stop coming here eventually I swear ;A;

Nov 10, 2017 8 years ago
feral
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I can't personally see anything I think would cause for denial, but I just wanted to stop and say that you don't ever have to stop coming here if you don't want to =P I mean, I feel like I've got a pretty good hold on cws in general and I still pop over here for advice n_n I think it's a great place for a second pair of eyes! Nothing wrong with that!

Nov 10, 2017 8 years ago
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this is super pretty! n_n The light source is a bit hard to see at some places, but frankly nowadays it seems to get overlooked a lot. Definitely not a huge worry .

And like said, this thread is for everyone, anytime! We all post here, even those who have been drawing for a while!

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Nov 11, 2017 8 years ago
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Thank you guys so much ^v^ , I just sometimes get a little anxious when I'm using help forums often D'l.

Nov 20, 2017 8 years ago
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Username --- Link to the overlay(s) --- click click

What do you need help with --- I just need help with the perspective they mentioned. I need a redline as originally i did this best I could and now my mind is drawing a blank on how to fix it. thank you!

Was there a denial --- A custom clothing item you drew, Haunted Carousel Horse Figurine, submitted by PaisleyAnn, was denied for the following reason(s): • OVERLAY: Overlay perspective conflicts with the 3/4 angle of the avatar base • NOTE: This is REALLY hard to do with the avatar and you've done a great job! But right now it looks like the leg is at a complete side view, where the foot itself is more of the 3/4ths view we'd expect. The leg needs to be shifted more so it looks like it's actually coming out of the avatar. They look very detached! But it's a really great start.

Optional Can we take a look at the PSD files --- yes Can we redline --- yes

Nov 20, 2017 8 years ago
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I don't have a ton of time atm to do a redline, but the things that I think are really off at the moment are the folds on the skirt and the heel on the shoe.

For the skirt, the lines are going towards the left, which adds to the feeling that the leg is facing left! The folds should be coming more towards the direction of the viewer (up and down as opposed to left and right facing)! And for the heel of the shoe, I think changing the perspective of that so it's more behind the shoe, rather than off to the side and the same height as the front will help make the foot look turned to the 3/4ths view!

(I am in no way a perspective expert so I could still be totally wrong here! But that's what I see that looks the most off!)

Nov 20, 2017 8 years ago
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Hello, , it's a me, ... again... <3

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What do you need help with --- I'm not understanding very well the "over-sharpened artwrok" part. (english is not my main language). Overlay was made in SAI (linework, shading), shading colours were tweaked in Photoshop and the overlay resize was made in Manga Studio (also known as Clip Paint?).

Was there a denial --- Your custom clothing Hermetic White Wings was denied for the following reason(s): • OVERLAY: Over-sharpened artwork • NOTE: This looks much better, but the overlay is still on the sharp side, which is also taking away from visible shading a bit. I was also told: In this case, over-sharpened means it looks REALLY pixelated. It looks like it was sharpened in photoshop, which can create sharpening halos and take away from the overall look.

Optional Can we take a look at the PSD files --- Yes Be my guest Can we redline --- Yes

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