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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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i just wanted to say, as someone who's been to both zhangjiajie and guilin i made the connection immediately and was really excited about it (they're really amazing places to draw influence from!!! !!)

anyways tbh i would be more miffed if subeta came up with some terrible pseudo-mandarin name instead lmao there is no winning here

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Well in theory some of the arguments are that it doesn't go with the Subeta lore, but then it is question the validity of how it happened. If it is Subeta lore and it is created by Subeta ideals then it can randomly show up and be okay because it is not based in logic or real life experiences but Subeta lore. Not only that but I keep reading and think of the Bermuda triangle. There might be islands in there, but the myth is that you will die or go into another Universe. Death and Spirits are a big part of many culture and using that mysticism to bring an island to life is amazing to me. Also on the map it might look super close one from the other, but in theory it can take days from one land to the next. If spirits are in fact covering the island and the caretakers within it it is easy to make the jump that no one was able to come in or out. (Just sayin')

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Bonju achievement ftw. Now I miss my old username.

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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Morg

the real difference is that the people offended about it now are probably white sjw girls from tumblr

using a fake pseudo-chinese name is disrespectful to actual chinese people

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Oh I don't care, I just wish things were a bit less predictable. The point, being made sarcastically, was that if the site is to base a new land off of a culture it should be surprising.

What's ouch is that the ghost scum may return to reek havoc on the rest of Subeta. They, and other forces that threaten to undermine Subeta, must be punished through fear. I have a solution that may solve the problem once and for all.

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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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At least Shenkuu was undiscovered because it was on the other side of the world, rather than because, despite being very close to populated/mapped areas, it was...shrouded in spirit energy. That kept even people in aerial vessels from being curious about the area.

I took the lore to mean that the island was RECENTLY shrouded in mists, just as it appeared on the map for most of the plot - as a roiling sea of spirits and fog. There are many, many myths about islands that appear and re-appear in the ocean, fading into mist and becoming incorporeal. I assumed that Shengui Guo was grounded in the spirit realm until this event, and passed into our world when the rest of the spirits did.

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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Bonju achievement ftw. Now I miss my old username.

We should kickstart you a name change, bro

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Speaking of WoW, they also had East Asian lore that was planned but not released until much later, although most people were taken by surprise.

It's harder to make up variations of names given the short syllabled Chinese words, and also they will know the creativity behind the names, while for other languages the meaning is lost. Also the short syllabled words sounds very different from Latin languages where letters are phonically spelled out.

I suppose that's why some would be comfortable with the species Paralix instead of something like Hai-long (Sea Dragon).

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Oh damn I forgot about the Ytiva thing. Though I don't know Subeta well enough to know when things were named, but anyway, I was trying to allude to 's point on like page 2 or something haha. Any readable name that's not Akladjieoplaskjf will likely be based on some actual culture or language or another?

Anyway, I'm just going to second Saint's last post since I don't really have much else to add :')

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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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You can never satisfy this kind of people, so I just go and disregard them. They're not worth it.

Personally, what I want is a clear position from staff about real world references. I'm not even sure I give a damn about the land's name, all I want is a clear position.

Is Subeta its own bundle of cultures, with no Earth influence, or is it something more like a AU version of Earth. I'd really like a clear answer to this, so that I can know what to expect.

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Congratulations! You have just adopted Bonju the Legeica!

There. Now Bonju shall stay with me forever.

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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Hyacinthe

This is the best thing that could have happened out of this thread

Need a sun potion or something?

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago Official
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- It's more like an AU version of Earth. People that play our site want several conflicting things - to be represented, to have their favourite real life things on site, but for things to be original too. We don't want outright Earth country names, but we'll take inspiration from real life cultures and places and food and clothing and put our own spin on it as much as we can. Some things will be more 'of Subeta' than others. Some things will gradually change more and more into being Subeta integrated. There are people that prefer each thing, and we try to create things for everybody to find something in to enjoy.

We're not really kidding anyone that Luminaire or Morostide or Alegarten or Vesnali are completely original ideas, but over time they have become more 'us' and less Christmas/Morostide/Oktoberfest/Easter. Cultures mix and change and it's a wonderful thing (IMO), and over time our Subeta users will get to see our countries grow and develop. I think that's pretty amazing, and I love that about our site. If it's not to your taste, that's fine - but this is how we've chosen to do it.


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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Done. Just need a blumaroo morphing potion now. But no really, how didn't I think of this before. Thanks for the inspiration.

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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Piety

morostide's real life counterpart and inspiration is halloween not also morostide :P

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago Official
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Rah

- see, it's gradually become so Subeta that I now just call Halloween 'Morostide' c;


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Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Forevermore

Asian inspired things are clearly only owned by Neopets. Subeta needs to stop releasing anything because literally everything is inspired by the real world and how dare they not do something 100% authentically their own in every single way.

How dare.

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Thanks for the answer.

Since 2009, I know Subeta wanted to be less attached to real world things, but like you pointed out, most of the holidays were at the base, reskinned versions of Earth holidays.

What I dislike is ambiguity. Now, things are clear and I guess I know what to expect, now.

Still best thing on the thread. A+++

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Piety

someone needs a vacation >.<

Aug 24, 2015 10 years ago
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Quote by Sopheroo
Inspired, not copied. You get me? For me, it&;s steps backwards from the ideology of &quot;Subeta is its own world with its own cultures!&quot; to go and use real mandarin to name an asian land.

This seems especially weird after the uproar a few months ago about those two Sacred Lands NPCs with Chinese(?) names.

I love the ideas that went into this new land, but the inspiration is so blatantly obvious that it feels out of place. That's a big part of why it feels so similar to Shenkuu and Pandaria. They use the same source material and don't do anything truly unique with it. (And for the record, I think Shenkuu is just Shengui with the spelling changed, so the two cities basically have the same name.)

I've always loved this factoid about the design choices that went into Disney's Atlantis:

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The filmmakers knew of the usual depiction of Atlantis as a crumbling Greek city, and wanted to create something uniqu e instead. What the movie ends up with is a combination of Mayan, Southeast Asian, Indian, and Tibetan inspired architecture.

Imagine if Shengui's lore had mixed in something like Dia de los Muertos, Hades and The River Styx, and other death-related myths from around the world. There was so much untapped potential there.


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