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Jan 19, 2020 6 years ago
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Derek Hale

It's official use is listed as a minion but it's probably not showing up because it's Melody.

[edit] Nope, we still show 1 more minion than directory, even with it showing Melody items.

Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?

Jan 20, 2020 6 years ago
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Tinky_Winky

: Drat, I forget that you have to check the box to get Melody items to show up.

How about Kitchen Attendant? When I list minions by name, it should be on page 33 of the item directory, but it's not there for some reason even when I have spoilers turned on.

Jan 20, 2020 6 years ago
Lypsyl
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Crotchety

its definitely Kitchen Attendant. But why? If you search the item directory by name it shows up, and it has minion as item use. Yet when you search by name with "minion" in the box Item types and uses:, it does not show up.

I'm going to run over and put in a bug report.

Jan 20, 2020 6 years ago
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Tinky_Winky

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But why?

Hey, I take care of our bugs, not theirs! :)

Jan 20, 2020 6 years ago
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Crotchety

LOL, that's why I put the bug report here :P

Jan 21, 2020 6 years ago
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Georgie
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Holly Daze

Doing away with the old shop/gallery system fixed everything but now we are going to get rid of them entirely and THAT will fix everything.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Tinky_Winky

From the April 8, 2016 news post:

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In the meantime, access to your items in old shops and galleries will never go away, even after the shops themselves are disabled.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Crotchety

technically that's still true (for now). They plan to auto-dump everything into your vault in April before deleting the shops.

Fortunately I have been working on this, cause I knew better than to believe them. I've emptied 9 of 10 legacy shops. The one I have left is almost down to "S." Of course I have no idea how many items that is, but still, its mostly empty.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Tinky_Winky

: Yeah, and that won't be "access to your items in old shops and galleries". Once they move them, they're no longer "items in old shops and galleries", but "items in vaults".

This is gonna be a mess. I have categories in my vault for things to trade, giveaway, save for the recycle beast, etc. Those items are categorized based on the knowledge that I already have one of these items tucked away elsewhere. Now that "elsewhere' is going away, that's going to be a mess. I don't want the things I've saved for myself to be mindlessly dumped into the bin where I keep things I'm planning to give away or recycle.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
Lypsyl
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Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Georgie
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Holly Daze

I had to walk away cause I was getting so mad....

I really love how you, spoke right up with your questions! I was cheering for you. So great that he is going to work one on one with you. Wish other people and issues got that kind of attention too. i DO NOT begrudge YOU, just one more reason to hate this place.

Since I have not been able to access my gallery for several months (no matter what that post says!) I am wondering how I am to be certain all my items get moved. I know he says nothing will be lost! No info deleted till it is transferred. All those happy horse poop promises we have heard so MANY times before!

By the way, since the great upgrade of November 2019 I can't get into my new already full gallery without doing some kind of stupid trick. So what is going to be the solution if that continues, for lots of people cause I know already they don't give a @#($&!(_# about my issues with the site?

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Tinky_Winky

I'll be honest -- collecting is really the one thing I "do" on the site (and I even don't do that as well as you two). I don't really mess with my avatar much, and I don't mess with the CS challengers, and I don't have a ton of pets -- originally one for battling and one for zapping, but then two more that Eric sent me before he disappeared.

Mixing the items in my old hoarder gallery with the items in my vault (which are ALREADY TAGGED in a way that lets me know whether I have a copy in the gallery or not) will literally defeat my tagging scheme for about 30K items. I'm too old and tired to redo the last four years of work to try to make some kind of logical sense to my collection now that I've had to split my hoard among multiple locations.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Holly Daze

If you tell me this is the end for you then I am done. Or at least, SubetaLodge is done. Same with Lypsyl. Not that I want ANYONE to quit, we need everyone!~

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Also, please note he spent time building this TOOL rather than fixing any of the broken stuff.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Crotchety

I'm pretty much here for the long haul. Through changes, messes, glitches and everything else. I still enjoy doing stuff here. Admittedly, there have been annoyances.

The only thing that really scares me is the wardrobe. Its currently a mess, but a usable mess. If they were to add an upper limit of items right now, that might cause me to quit. If they fix it up first, make moving stuff into drawers a simple drag and drop, add back the color picker, make it easier to use in general, fix the damned lag that prevents items from instantly being usable when added, then implement a limit, I could live with that.

Back when I tried a self imposed limit to make using it easier, I couldn't go more than a couple of days without having to go to my stash of "excess" wearables that I figured I'd never use and add an item back because I needed something I'd removed.

If we could transform items within the wardrobe, I could remove a ton of stuff! But the way it works now - having to remove an item, transform it, add it back, then having to leave the wardrobe to move stuff back into drawers, wait, sometimes for hours, for an item to "appear" in the wardrobe, and so on. Transforming items is just fucked and its easier to own multiple copies of the same thing.

I could also "remove" coupons if they implemented a 'save' feature in the hair salon. But the hair salon is so hit and miss, I rarely use it and would rather keep the coupons as is than try to put them in the salon.

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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If you tell me this is the end for you then I am done.

Nope, not on my account.

Next time we meet (let's not make it too much longer!), I'll show you my vault and how I've been trying to make things work even without a gallery. It's not pretty.

What they're telling me now is that either I drop my life, quit my job, and sort tens of thousands of items by hand by April, or they're going to do it for me and not in the way I'd like. (And fixing it would require sorting those tens of thousands of items after the fact, something I still don't want to do given that I've already done it TWICE on here.)

Jan 22, 2020 6 years ago
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Crotchety

Can you not transfer stuff from your vault to a new gallery, then move the legacy stuff into the vault with no duplicate items in the vault anymore? Would that be more manageable?

Jan 23, 2020 6 years ago
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Holly Daze

I have been toying with the idea of pulling out and selling all that stuff that I will never use in my wardrobe. And there is an awful lot of it, as you know with yours. Before they screwed up the drawers I had one that was just for stuff that was too ugly to ever wear. Pretty much the only reason I have kept the stuff in there is because I am t lazy to do all that work. Nothing is easy. Except for the stuff that we did years ago! Like oh say, adding plushies and beanbags to our collections!

Hair coupons? Don't get me started!

You are the one with a life so how soon or far off is up to you

I feel for you with your vault/gallery issue. I never had my vault categorized and my one remaining gallery is all Christmas stuff which really aoisdpuf-c q23455u=9i[2w09e8u`!!!! I could put it all in my Christmas pet's TC but : Holly Daze's Treasure Chest 942 out of 963 Treasure Chest slots are filled. I am not spending all that it would take to make room for it. I couldn't even if I were willing cause I spent almost all my sP for CSC since that is the only way I can get it anymore. That is not a complaint about sP/csc. That is totally my choice, I know.

Anyway, your points are very valid.

Glad neither of you is letting this drive you away ❤️

Jan 23, 2020 6 years ago
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Can you not transfer stuff from your vault to a new gallery...

If I converted the Shop I Never Use to a gallery (yes, I'm willing to do that), and go gold for a week (I've got a couple of 1-week medals somewhere) I could dump my vault into a couple of galleries; wouldn't fit in just one. Ironically, that's exactly what I did before the galleries went legacy. I have a legacy shop called "This used to be my vault" where I dumped everything so I could remake the categories in anticipation of not being able to stuff hoard items into my gallery anymore.

Jan 23, 2020 6 years ago
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Crotchety

Surprisingly enough there are very few items in my wardrobe that I've never worn. I do my daily item, but I also regularly do contest/challenge HAs, so I end up using lots of different stuff. But yeah I get the temptation to cull and just sell a bunch of crap!

Yeah, the old I'll just stuff it here and deal with it later. Back when I earned the 30K hoarder achievement, I had taken everything out - wardrobe, pet TCs, Pet weapons (back then no armory), Pet scrolls, vault, and probably more places that I can no longer remember. All these many years later, other than the wardrobe, most of it never went back.

The biggest thing I'm dealing with now is stacks of items scattered all over the place. We have such limited space that I don't want a stack of oranges in my garden gallery, in the vault, and in my storage gallery. I just want one single huge stack in the garden - that also makes it easier to frag stuff.

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