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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Taisetsu

I think it would be a great idea, if we would be able to move our loyalty boxes to the tc ~ :) ~


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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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I think that's the point though.

I mean of course the items would be available for a limited time (not indefinitely) so eventually people who missed out on buying them cheaper with sP might still buy them from user shops so there would be some kind of balance to it and people who would want the item for TC rather than wardrobe would still buy it from user shops, but it just doesn't mean people will buy an item from the CS just to resell for profit at a later point.

Since it is an option of buying it with sP goes directly to wardrobe and can never be removed or you buy it with the normal option and do whatever you want with it.

Sorry if I'm further confusing you, just trying to help out.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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PsychoDreamer

the more I read the more I like this feature, there are so many plushies that I need!! :D

Can this feature effect the galleries? like you can put only 1 quantity per item? and can't take it out? The rest can be sold or to the Vault. more or less this is the purpose of gallery no? like a museum or something.. (I'm about to get flames "^_^)

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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James

It can be a way to solve the issue that collections are having right now. The items are just hard to come by, but most ways of releasing them make them suddenly drop in price devaluating them like crazy.

A collection millionaires center or something like that. If they go directly into collections then they don't have to be sold for obscene amounts either.

Anyway it's sort of connected to this topic. If you want to change the way wardrobes and items work to stimulate sp sinks. There you have another option, one that you probably should consider either.

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago Official
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Eradication

Yeah, I actually really like this idea. I'm going to talk to and and see if there is a way we can get that done :)!

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Quote by Tobias

Anyway it&;s sort of connected to this topic. If you want to change the way wardrobes and items work to stimulate sp sinks. There you have another option, one that you probably should consider either.<br />

Agreeing on this! If you wanted sP sinks there are a lot of useful and much less controversial ways of generating them :)

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Tobias Yeah, I actually really like this idea. I&;m going to talk to amber and ariel and see if there is a way we can get that done :)!

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Kamisama

The idea of a flash sale sparked my interest! I think it's a great idea. There are plenty of items I want to be a permanent addition to my wardrobe so the idea that I could get them at a great price and them be locked into my wardrobe sounds like a very fair trade.
Not that there's anything wrong w/ impulse buying, if you have the means, but this would deter some of that and the turnover rate of a lot of items.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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James

whee thank you for taking it in consideration.

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Sucre

Quote by Marlboro
Can this feature effect the galleries? like you can put only 1 quantity per item? and can&;t take it out?
The rest can be sold or to the Vault.
more or less this is the purpose of gallery no? like a museum or something..
(I&;m about to get flames &quot;^_^)
My local museum has an entire case full of arrowheads. I'm not sure why it'd even be relevant to have only one of each item in your gallery? Like, what's the point in that? Not to mention that adding more areas to the site that are essentially collections is exactly what people have a problem with in the first place.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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I actually wasn't directing my post about custom clothing at all! Just FYI.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Cathii

oops you werent? My bad, I apologize ;; (I read the 'overlay' part and that's what it made me think of - Jessi's idea of submitting cws directly as locked items)

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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, no! Overlays are what I call just any wearable version of an item, custom or official.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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PsychoDreamer

because you have the Vault if you want to hoard an item, right now you have many items in the Vault and many items in the Gallery, which doesn't make any sense anymore. If you want to show off your items, put in gallery, but there's no reason to show off the quantity of this item. it's time to encourage the users to sell items and to make them more available and to reduce the chance that items will be stuck in galleries for years until the user quit, and then those items are lost. For example, the , a not active user have 11 of them in their gallery, and this is simply not good at all.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago Official
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Basically, you&;re going to be selling straight-to-wardrobe overlays from now on, and if users want to purchase the item version, they would have to pay a higher premium for it so they can sell/trade/gift it. nnWhat does this mean for transforming items that including a wearable form?

I think that because we'd be controlling this on our end, we'd just not include items like that; or just have the "flash sale" example only have one of the wearable transformations of it available for sP.

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Derek Hale

With the amended explanation I'm still against it.

Want that awesome CW or CS item? Now you can just use sP and bind it to your account which means you dont ever need to buy CSC again which means CSC inflation goes through the roof, cw creators have no incentive to ever out another item in our shiny new shops or make anything unlimited (because how will we manage to sell them and if I'm spending upwards of $50 to not only commission an item but then also get it on site I definitely don't want someone to pay some set amount of sP to the site to be able to get it so that I get back 0 of what I spent getting it on here).

And before anyone can chime in with "you shouldn't be expexcting to get rich off CWs blah blah" I don't. I'm lucky if I break even most of the time, so if anyone can buy them for less than my shop there is no reason for me to continue pumping money into the site.

Honestly I think locked items beyond hair and base edits are pointless and will hurt the economy far more than help it.

You want sinks that will help:

Allow purchase of old event/zombie skins for a set amount if sP.

Allow users to make/submit base features (eyes, lips, noses) for X amount of sP directly to the site (that would still need staff approval) and upon acceptance can be purchased directly in the wardrobe for use for X amount of sP.

Create new, permanently available skins, base features, etc for purchase directly through the wardrobe for X amount of sP.

Seconding another suggestion: make the ability to add a large number of TC slots available (directly added to the pet you choose in a drop down) for X amount of sP.

Determine a fair price conversion for sP to CSC and allow people to purchase pet slots and name changes (including the new name swap) for whatever the conversion price is (although I am still against trying to regulate CSC prices in the market).

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Even if this system is brought in, I won't be using it. I don't want things permanently stuck in my wardrobe because I get tired of items and like being able to sell them. I also hate having a really big wardrobe.

I don't mind something like this being an option, though, because some people might like it.

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Sprynkles

the idea sounds good to a point. but i don't think i'd be using it...

this type of purchase directly to a destination sounds more usable for collections... like buying a plushie and it going straight to the plushie collection if we don't have it. but clothes... unless we're able to share them with other users of our choice and as such, nobody can remove the item [for profit] but everyone can wear it at the same time. people we shared it with can purchase it for collecting in a gallery or TC for instance..

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Sucre

Until the vault has the sorting and search options of a gallery, that's kind of bullshit reasoning imo.

Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Craig

I'm mobile atm so I haven't looked at all the posts yet, but I don't like this at all honestly.

  1. If things are being re-released it's going to 100% effect the people who paid a lot or earned a thing regardless. Most users only have a thing to wear (if it's wearable, and unless it's an uber weapon, so it doesn't really matter if someone can't remove it from their wardrobe or not... whatever it's sold for will become the price of the itwm across the board because "pft why would I pay 50m for this when I can just buy the locked one for 5m? "

  2. Csc items for sP will absolutely set the cost of csc which may drive the costs up or drive it down/reducing site income. Again why pay 20m/500csc for this 500csc wig when I can just pay 2.5m for the locked version?

  3. Sucks if that item is also a weapon/food or awesome TC item :'D Really big blow to everyone who doesn't wardrobe onsite....

  4. I would not mind this if it was utilized for new things going forward, strictly wearables without items or other uses they're literally just wears. Or items that function kinda like the wig coupons? Maybe they're just an item until redeemed?

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Jan 20, 2015 11 years ago
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Jawsy

I like the idea of having a sP purchase option for a wardrobe only copy of non-CW cash shop items, but I wouldn't want to see CWs included in this unless it was created as an option to be used at the CW releaser's sole discretion (meaning they could opt out for some or all of their CWs if they didn't want to offer wardrobe limited versions for sP). Here are my reasons why:

1) This option could really deflate the value of CW copies sold for CSC because, let's face it, how many people purchase a CW not intending to use it specifically in their wardrobe? Gallery collection and TC purchases aren't the norm. A lot of people, myself included, have spent a good amount of money on our CW collections over the years and don't want to see the value of a lot of items drop almost instantly (which already happened twice this year, but there were pretty good trade offs in both cases that made those drops easier to stomach). Releasers, again including myself, have also spent a good amount of money on the artwork to commission items and likely don't want to see the ability to make our money back evaporate either if sP copies are easily attainable. 2) There's already the option to convert sP to CSC and visa versa when using the cards from the cash shop, so people who choose not to actually purchase CSC still have the ability to buy those same items today using the established currency. 3) I do think it would be nice to help stabilize the cost of CSC, but then by doing so there's also the economic backlash of fewer people purchasing CSC on site and supporting the site financially due to the ease of converting sP into CSC.

If the option is implemented I like that the sP copies will cost more on average than the CSC copies, but I'd be interested to know exactly how much higher since that would have a major economic impact. Also, if extended to CWs would the sP copies purchased deduct from the total amount of available copies to be sold the same way that CSC purchased copies do now?

Risky move either way in my opinion, and I think it's definitely something that any CW shop owner should have full control over if it is extended to CWs.

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