while im all for new weapon with build/stat biases, but...

if you need that extra 1-2k speed just for 5-10 extra attack or blocks, its not worth it lol. The extra heal is great, but if you spent the 1-2k spd on health instead, percentage healers will make up for it.

Lastly, at tier 7, to have 2-3k spd you would only have 1.4-2.4k to spend on other stats... so yeah thats not happening. And at higher tiers where you would have more SPD, youd be better off using a better weapon.

- I agree. If it's gonna be stat/build biased, it should also be logical for that tier. I mean, if it str needs to be 1000 more than def, that's not likely happening any time before T10, str 200 higher than def would make more sense for a T7. And the one build biased weapon we have at t10 only requires you to have only ONE stat point higher or lower in str or def to get different stats on it. It just doesn't really add up. And to get the 'even' stats for the skelly staff, you have to bead dead even! Which means that if you are training and you get 3 points in one, and then 1 in the other, you lose those stats, even though you still have basically an even build.

well I think it makes it a more viable mid tier build. with 350 constant heal, that's fairly viable up until ~t10 depending on the opponent. I think these will all make more sense in 4-5 years after we get the stat cap increase and the changes that come with it as well. there'll be more compliments and what-not.

Wait, so how does the arrow harpoon work so far?

This is what I got: Go bug Cranberry for the text 😉 BEST!

TEXTTEXTTEXT harpoon you~

LOL Actually, I think we're all still figuring it out. I'm not much help since all my pets have fairly even builds.

^lets say 2k+ spd is the trigger, 98% of pets wont hit 2k spd until tier 11, and thats if you trained all stats evenly.

Most pets bias health, str, so youll hit t11 before 2k spd. If you biased SPD/do a SPD build, then well youre in the 1% and, well, an outlier. and it seems pointless to build a weapon for the 1% (but who knows?). at t11, youre not utilizing the 350HP heal lol.

Yes the 350hp is probably helpful in t8 - maybe t9 if you dont use a combo of trident or RIWoD or Pstaff or LGK etc. but you're not gonna have enough spd to trigger its high heal anyway (inb4 it gets tweaked again)

I agree completely. I like the way its heading, but im not the biggest fan of how its being implemented in terms of consistency or balance. But ill reserve judgement until the supposed "new" and "soonTM" stuff comes.

- Yeah, I mean I AM one of those 1% going for a high speed build on one of my secondaries, and right now she's T8 but she only has about 150 more speed than everything else because I wanted her to be able to have some defences and the ability to actually do damage to things on her journey to the ridiculous boss-killing bomb build I have in plan for her. Now, I don't plan on her having super high health, so will 350 heal be good for her? maybe, but by the time she gets those stats, she'll probably have access to better higher tier weapons, which do more damage, and would give about the same heal.

But Speed still has to be over a certain number to get the boost, so speed builds under T-higher than the tier of the weapon don't really get any benefit. I thought maybe this time my speed build would come out on top, but nope, nope.

I agree with what's said so far about speed and the new weapons the CS challenger drops.

For a main pet, I rather focus on HP, Str, and Def first.

Suppose I have a very high speed and high str pet (at the expensive of hp and def) because I want to do big damage and finish fights quick. I have to really watch out if I get chain frozen. If I'm in a longer fight, and the opponent already boost their str so much, it's pretty much doom if I get frozen. And many high end challengers chain freeze now.

So it's a very risky build, and while it is very effective in quick damage output (for example against F13 Careaper) it is disadvantaged in way more situations than it's advantageous in. I still don't recommend the speed build for main pets, and they account for most of the pets battling so the weapon will only benefit a small percentage of battlers given the circumstance right now.

Going on an end of the month stats boost spree... 4 tomes and 23 boosters.

Before: Level: 1584 Health: 6110 / 6110 Strength: 4810 Defense: 3927 Speed: 3929 Intelligence: 2176

After: Level: 1600 Health: 6110 / 6128 Strength: 4830 Defense: 3944 Speed: 3941 Intelligence: 2186

YES! You've managed to find all the pieces to my bracelet! To thank you for this, I am giving you one of my very special items! I'm so pleased that you've finished this quest that I've decided to give you another item. Lucky you!

Congrats on the gains!

-- Dameon is now just 94 points away from 6k health. Very pleased with this.

Nice boost! Congrats! :)

Thanks sweetie. He'll get that in no time!
Thanks kiddo. I'll be happy when I top out on Levels... march to 2000.

Even at base stats, isn't it the best in slot non-healer healer for Tier 7, edging out replica knocker with 8% max heal ([email protected] stats vs 100 at any tier 7 stats.)

Who cares what its obscure training your speed to numbers you should never train speed to stats are.

You have defeated Cursed Effigy, the Tormented 3 times!

Cursed Effigy, the Tormented drops:

Dillinger earned 2835 EXP Points! You earned 8100 sP for beating Cursed Effigy, the Tormented!

lol wut? I didn't know you could get fatal fires outside the fifth win drops.

Yep, you can. It is just extremely rare (I don't think I got one at all in my wins against him). I see it as the special loot merely being a means of guaranteeing that you get a good scroll like that within the 10 wins.

I don't think I've ever gotten one outside of the fifth win drop either, so it was definitely a nice surprise. |D

Congrats on that scroll drop.