All I could imagine was a toddler throwing their toys on the ground and entering a screaming fit with that last line holy shit bravo.

I can't agree with 'only band members not supporters', tho, because then I'd feel like I'd be shooting myself in the foot since I was only a supporter lol I don't believe supporters were less important is this.

I think there was the matter of the item for entering the battle of the bands at all, which should've been awarded with an achievement or something. That would be fine. And then another achievement for making it to finalist, that would also been fine. But the other prizes from actually winning I'd want those too.

That also would have probably been a fine way to handle it, provided it went to the supporters as well, I suppose. I personally like the tiered idea, though, since it rewards people based on how much effort they put in to scoring points, and then rewarding the band members automatically. That said, you still haven't answered my question.

@ introvert How would you suggest they solve the rarity issue for the GS items though? Being that GS was not a genre winner? (that's true right? just making sure) Because, following the logic of your last post, the supporters of that genre would have two exclusive items. And that wouldn't be fair either. Sure it could have been thought through more but either way there's going to be someone who's pissed off

Yes, another Horns and Roses member who does not appreciate that the work of our amazing supporters, who worked their ass off to get here, is disrespected by people saying they do not deserve the prizes they got for any reasons.

The rarest items should be the HnR items since they are the top/winning band prizes. Yes, there's a lot of flaws in the way prizes were distributed, but I think staff made the right decision by distributing the other band prizes to the winning band's supporter.

Judging by what i've seen of several of your band's members behaviour, if I were staff I would honestly regret even taking the time to make you prizes.

Supporters were important, but from the perspective of someone who was in a band and made a finalist, it was a lot more work than just playing the game.

The GS items would've gone to 300+ people if it went to GS supporters only. There was never a rarity issue with that.

I didn't see your question, because frankly I didn't read your entire post, assuming it was going to be as rude as Lucifer's. Sorry, I went back though. I can't really answer 100% as it's hypothetical, but I don't think it changes the fact that, if we won, our supporters still would've gotten way more than actual band winners (flyers of every category + plushies) and it still wouldn't be fair.

I haven't seen anything else the others have said, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. But honestly I feel we have the right to be mad. Every band member in this entire competition apart from the winners have a right to be mad, imo. Someone who happened to play a game for a band that happened to win does not deserve more prizes (come on, eight exclusive prizes + everything else) than the people who made a band, made a thread, formed a character, and ALSO played the game.

I don't know if there is still time for this but since I think most people agree, why not ask the staff to create those achievements I mentioned? One for entering, one for making finalist, both with exclusive prizes and forum titles.

I don't know if they still can track those tho.

I was surprised there wasn't actually I remember the costume contests had achievements with some nice damn prizes on them just from entering.

And honestly if as many people in our team won prizes they didn't deserve like people are thinking they did then that makes us even awesomer because then even with a bunch of dead weight in our team and outnumbered by almost 100 we still made it lol

I actually really like that idea. That makes up a bit for the skewed prize distribution. I'm sure if anything they can award the achievements manually.

Someone should create a suggestion topic, I'm sure people would be interested! I don't think it's right to take away prizes from those who already got them but there are things that can be done to make this a bit better.

Someone also mentioned selling the exclusive items in the cash shop for a short time. I think that'd be neat if the band were ok with it.

And also I don't know if it would piss a lot of people off, but giving the grannies supporters all the flyers or all the plushies would be in order too.

There's still time to change that much at least I think

I'm glad you automatically assumed that I was going to be rude. :/ Just because I'm best friends with Lucifer or because I'm a member of HnR, does not mean I'm going to be rude. I'm trying to handle this as delicately as possible, since I know how it feels to work hard and not get something. If we're going to be frank though, I found the way you spoke to her quite rude. That said, she may be an asshole but she's not 100% a dick. 8)

[edit] I'd love to see a title thing for the bands. mentioned something in our skype chat about genre winners and runner ups and what not getting a title such as "Granny Smiths Member" or something (obviously based on the band they were in). I posted it on the other feedback thread, but it was probably glanced over. Definitely make a suggestion board for it!

@ introvert See haha, but then that still wouldn't be fair because your prize wouldn't be going to the category supporters (like the genre winners). It would be going to just your band and their supporters, which isn't a privilege you would have because you didn't come in first place. You would be getting a band-exclusive item, not a category-exclusive item. So you would basically be on par with the band in first place, which shouldn't be the case. Does that make sense? But that's hypothetical. It is entirely true that prize distribution could be deemed unfair (that I understand), but it seems like staff did the best they could to preserve the rarity while also giving the band in first place the recognition they deserved (though I don't think as many H&R items were necessarily needed). Maybe your items were nonexclusive, but at least you got items.

[edit] Okay, this argument seems to be very circular, so I'm going to leave it at this - I'm so sorry that you or anyone else feels slighted, and I know that all of the bands put in a lot of work, but this event had a ton of weak spots. Hopefully in the future that can be fixed (or BotB can just be avoided altogether). In the meantime, though, you have to come to grips with the prize distribution. It wouldn't be fair to take prizes away that were already given. And it's also not fair to be angry at/malicious towards H&R or their supporters. Remember that they worked hard as well. (They wouldn't have won if they didn't work hard.) That being said, I do like 's idea about the achievements, and I think that would make for good compensation.

I'm sorry. Birds of a feather flock together sometimes. I didn't mean to offend you. But in my defense, she name-called first.

But wasn't the issue rarity? And we wouldn't be anywhere in par with first place, who got... wait let me count... 6 exclusive items (one super exclusive, which only went to band members) + all 18 regular items (WHAT A JOKE), AND got to design their items... No they didn't have to award us runner-up, but they did. They didn't have to make us items, but they did. But the fact that they made us runner-up should account for something more than the few items that EVERY person got. Just like the genre winners should've gotten more than supporters got. JS.

[edit] I'm not making a suggestion thread for it, as I clearly need a long-awaited break from this site. But anyone else feel free to.

Do you want me to go create the damage control topic because I don't think I should I'm not very eloquent. lol

After reading all of the above, I'll just say that no, supporters did not deserve every prize. The band they supported won, yay, but some seriously didn't even send scores over 100 points. As many people said in the Site Feedback thread, it was much better to not be a finalist and support than placing and earning nothing. I don't see how that's fair. If they wanted to distribute a good amount of prizes so they weren't exclusive, they should have gone to those who sent the best scores in the game or via prize shop. But H&R supporters getting everything is ridiculous.

No prizes unless you supported a band, huh? :c

But when you say the horns n roses supporters didn't deserve everything y'all are talking about the people who made 6k+ like did, for instance. She did deserve every fucking thing. I know this is not the type of people you mean but it ends up being the type of people you're talking about. The better solution of course would have them tiered too, like I remember said, but that is too late

Quoting myself

but what's the point of saying we didn't deserve it then. A shop would be ideal but then chiming in just to say 'those people didn't deserve it' doesn't help solve anything and is inflammatory. Next time that would be good

The point is letting staff know we weren't happy about this and hopefully not let that happen again. If that's "inflammatory" for you, I can't imagine how you would be if you were in a finalist/genre winner position.

I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about pointing out things to be corrected. I'm talking specifically about going up in our faces and saying we don't deserve this or that. And is not inflammatory for me, since I don't care, because I know how hard I worked. But you can see how both the band members and the supporters would be offended. If I was in the other bands I certainly wouldn't go around saying X people don't deserve this or that, rest assured, 'cause I don't think that's needed