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Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
dainty
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Wolfie

I wasn't happy to once more get the "Error! You can't browse Subeta!" page when I came online today. But I was happy to see that changes have been made to the import process, like the addition of a message that tells me when I've finished transferring my achievements. It seems to me that the text may have also been changed?

This is how it should have been in the beginning. It shouldn't have gone live until changes like that were made. It doesn't look good or make me think good things about the site to release something that's a huge mess. I mean, I know the old system was broken, and I know we weren't getting new achievements released for that reason, but I'd rather have waited a few days longer to get a neater new system than to have dealt with this mess.

It says on the new page, "You have 885 achievements!" No, I actually have 886 - minus, I think, the new "Achievement Testing" achievement. But I'm not looking through and comparing almost 900 achievements just to find the one or two that I'm missing. @ I still do not believe it should be my place to make sure the job's been done completely, and I think at this point I still don't care to do that.

Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Adventure Captain
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Just popping in to say that I still want a goddamn retired section

Totally agree!

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Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Flying Ace
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3. This also might be a preferences thing, but I hate the pages. If I click "all" that means I want to see all, not just a small section of all that I now need to page through.

I'm happy to see the page numbers right from the start, because new features are normally added without them. It's nice to see that they remembered this time. I think it's also important to keep them, because some sections (like Subeautique) are massive and are only going to get bigger as time goes on. I wouldn't mind seeing an increase to the number of achievements per page, but I'm willing to wait for other issues to be worked out first.

I hate the placement of the page numbers though. They're up above the page title right now, which causes a huge disconnect for me. I'd like to see them moved down below the other "Show all/earned/..." options, like this:

For reference, here's what it looks like now:

SPOILER (click to toggle)

Also: Please add page numbers to the bottom of the page, too. I hate having to scroll all the way back up to move to another page. The forums have this problem, too.

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And this might be nitpicky, but I don't like the wording for "working on." I think "in progress" sounds better, and it's a more standard label. When testing started, a lot of people thought "working on" was some kind of personal checklist you could edit, and that's probably because it's so unconventional.


Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Darkrai
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Sucre

Trivia was discontinued, yes

I agree completely with about the page numbers, especially with adding them to the bottom of the page. We've been asking for them to be added to the bottom on the forum pages too and that still hasn't happened -.-

Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Flying Ace
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Quote by introvert

Just popping in to say that I still want a goddamn retired section

Ehhhh... I really don't like the idea of moving all retired achievements into their own section. That's just so disorganized. I'd say a better choice would be to make it so you could filter them out the way you can show all/earned/etc...


Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
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The only reason I say that is because the retired achievements are still appearing in the "working on" section. I will NEVER be working on the 2010 zombie virus 😆 I just want it somewhere else or not in that section at all. I wouldn't mind them only being showed in the "all" category, but that's not the case.

Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Flying Ace
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- Oh, yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed then. :x


Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago Official
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Eradication

All of your suggestions are implemented!

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Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Flying Ace
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- That was fast! :o

Thank you :D


Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
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Quote by Darkrai
twocents Trivia was discontinued, yes
Then it should be marked as a retired achievement with the rest of them, I think. I was confused because I thought it was retired, but it's not marked as such.

Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
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Sucre

Last I paid attention, there were a lot that weren't marked retired (and some that were marked that shouldn't be). I have no idea if that ever got updated at all or what.

Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
Flying Ace
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At some point Keith said that Amber and Ariel would be going through all the achievements once the new system was complete, in order to recategorize them and stuff. I assume marking them as retired is part of that.


Aug 6, 2014 11 years ago
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Sucre

Thanks for the info c: I'm way too lazy to keep up with all the broken stuff around here OTL

Aug 7, 2014 11 years ago
Nonchalant
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Bren

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<li>And on a personal level, I am extremely displeased at being asked to import and crosscheck whether my import was successful multiple times. I have a crap ton of achievements, and the new achievements page isn&;t in the same order as the old one, so this isn&;t a five-second task that&;s being requested here. Very unhappy at this being pushed out without being properly tested, and causing a huge time suck inconvenience, for which my only alternative is to just walk away from and be okay with not having all the achievements I know I should have. Especially since I can see right on the first page that one import will have given me proper credit for an achievement, and then a second import that I&;m being forced to do will take that credit away. &quot;Displeased&quot; is the nicest way I can put this right now.

This. 100% This.

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I have 1300+ Achievements. I have imported over 5 times now. Profile says: Achievements: 36 So I import again today thinking maybe it's fixed. Profile says: Achievements: 36

Awesome.

Not going through them all by hand. I refuse. if it comes down to it in the end where I have to either go through them by hand or not have them... well I guess I'll be done with achievements.

Honestly this shouldn't be my job to go through my achievements to cross check if they have come over. I have never played on a site/done anythign where I have to keep double checking that things aren't lost. Cough Looking at you, Wardrobe error Cough

Please fix this - Because this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on a site I play on.

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Aug 7, 2014 11 years ago
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Quote by Nonchalant
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<li>And on a personal level, I am extremely displeased at being asked to import and crosscheck whether my import was successful multiple times. I have a crap ton of achievements, and the new achievements page isn&;t in the same order as the old one, so this isn&;t a five-second task that&;s being requested here. Very unhappy at this being pushed out without being properly tested, and causing a huge time suck inconvenience, for which my only alternative is to just walk away from and be okay with not having all the achievements I know I should have. Especially since I can see right on the first page that one import will have given me proper credit for an achievement, and then a second import that I&;m being forced to do will take that credit away. &quot;Displeased&quot; is the nicest way I can put this right now.

This. 100% This. (...) Honestly this shouldn't be my job to go through my achievements to cross check if they have come over. I have never played on a site/done anythign where I have to keep double checking that things aren't lost.

I echo these feelings about multiple rechecks. Once was bad enough, and on beta testing I could definitely understand as helping test was an optional thing, but now it's highly annoying. If we don't check it all NOW we're at a serious risk of loss (old forum threads that haven't been manually pulled are now GONE), the userbase shouldn't have to do this. Several of us have over a thousand achievements and I personally resorted to spreadsheeting and checking all achievements onsite, since a good chunk has been eaten by the new page.

Took me around 3 hours today, more than that yesterday when I was making the sheet. Just for the sake of making sure stuff I put work towards wasn't going to be perma-lost like several hundreds of my Masquerade trinkets were. Like important topics other people worked on were.

I would also love to know when the imports will finally be over, so I can ticket UAs for the one achievement I truly have glitched, and not have the next import undo their work.

[edit] I'd forgotten to say I'm also annoyed at the fact that several (not all, but still many) bugs previously identified in beta test phases (forums, achievements, technically even wardrobe) have NOT been addressed before the feature was publicily released. It is certainly discouraging for those of us that put time and effort trying to help out on beta tests.

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Aug 7, 2014 11 years ago
Tucker
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I was dreading even coming back on this morning because I didn't want to have to import again. :( Thank goodness I didn't have to this time. I tried testing before it went live. I quit because 1. everything that I had to say was already being said and those repeating were pretty much told, already known report other bugs. 2. The damn page keeps threatening to crash firefox on me. 3. I have better things to do than checking what achievements are there or not. That's not really my job to be forced to do. Too many damn achievements to go through and it didn't help when they all weren't even there in the first place.

Being forced without a choice really pissed me off. Hello, I said I hate loading that page or the import page because this almost makes firefox crash on me. I already got the "Firefox is not responding" pop up during one forced import. Seriously, if I get forced again I'm not even going to let the page load, achievements be damned.


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Aug 7, 2014 11 years ago
Lypsyl
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Crotchety

I've started a wait and see approach to these things. I started out looking for missing achievements, but by the second, or was it third time, I had to import, I gave up since every time I did it, different achievements had problems. Bad enough having to go through my 1500+ achievements once, not gonna do it again and again and again every time they tweak something. So, I'm going to wait until next week to do a proper achievement check (so far I've only done spot checking).

I agree though, many of these problems were first mentioned in the beta thread and never got fixed. Like they were looking at it and thinking that's not important right now - only they then forgot about it instead of noting it to take care of it before roll out.

Aug 8, 2014 11 years ago
Jessica
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Don't like the new achievement notification thing that appears when you get a new achievement...but that's just me : /

Aug 8, 2014 11 years ago
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B3AST

I'm still missing some achievements that I was missing through testing stages, that I know I have, eg.

Big Spender Spend a total of 500,000,000 in the Millionaire Center! 2,147,483,647 / 2,500,000,000

& Page 3 of 'Items' category is not linked (though if you change the URL manually, you can see it)

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Aug 8, 2014 11 years ago
Caraduin
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Spirill

I've noticed that a number of the Great Pandemic/Survival achievements are completely missing from the system as well as a few of the achievements in the Game and Legacy categories. There could be more missing that I don't know about because I hadn't earned them.

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