At the moment, yes, vending profits will go down. But in the long run it is a /very/ good thing for the economy.
Vending machines have played havoc with the already unstable economy. Anyone who vends on a regular basis can tell you what the common items are from a machine and with thousands of tokens being pumped into the machines daily that is a hell of a lot of common items flooding the market.
With the token amount doubled, there will be half as many items flooding the market, and after a bit, the prices will start to even out and (in theory) vending will start to be more profitable again.
This will also help by making restocking a bit more profitable as well, as there will be less items flooding the market from vending so prices should rise some given enough time.
Again, I know people profits will be down for a bit as the market needs time to adjust, but it really is best for the economy as a whole I believe and I'm extremely happy that Keith (or whomever made this decision) decided to go through with it.
It's 900k for a 250 and 800k for 100 pointer because Reborn Potions are in the Token Shop. xD
900k for a 250 point token 800k for a 100 point token wtf? NO this doesnt help anyone
I bet you're trying to make sure we can't make a profit from the ocean depth machine unless we get the legendary or the sword XD
Hey, you guys... You could just save your tokens and get stuff from the Token Shop. At least like this, you'll have more Tokens ready for when they bring back the Potions, Minions, or any of the Legendaries that you might want, so I think that this was an AWESOME idea.
At least, most of the so-called "junk" I got was going into my galleries, my two collections, and if they were food, feeding for my pets.
So, even tho this might seem like a bad idea at times, I think it'll be good in the long run.
Maybe it's just me but the logic doesn't make any sense. (I was never one for logic anyway but still)
How will less people vending and getting cheap items be a good thing? Those cheap items will still be coming out, but with less people vending you are LESS likely to get a rare item now. Less people vending, more people then getting crappy items, fewer getting rare items.
Maybe I just answered my own question, you want rare items to be really really rare? It doesn't affect me much either way as I have hardly done much since Christmas. (It seems as soon as I load a few pages I get major lag and it is such a turn off!)
At first I thought this was a stupid idea. Well, it IS, really, but when I sat and thought about it for a while.
As some have said, we've not been able to profit properly from the machines for some time. I vend about 20 1,000 point tokens a day, and it's becoming less and less worth my time.
However, I'm sure this will stop a lot of people from vending. (Which is good for the economy)
So when prices rise, it should balance out. At least, I hope. It will certainly make it harder for me to gather enough tokens every day. Getting 20 was hard enough. -laughs-
I hope this means better items as a result.
Otherwise I may as well just sell the tokens.
me hides from the onslaught that is coming for Buumon
I, personally, don't vend a lot. I do wiz quests and sell the tokens. But,, I think this was a good move. People are vending a lot, and the 'economy' is being flooded with junk items that aren't worth anything, just because they've been vending so many times. If this causes people to stop vending for awhile, I see that as a good thing, and maybe prices will go up, yes?
-.- great. wtf is with you making it like this???? I mean the stuff in the vending machines is hardly even worth 2, uch less four. Figures...
LoL I think someone oopsied on the numbers in their profit reports.
Good, this will maybe control my vending addiction.
haha you shouldve raised it when the new sword came out.
has anyone vended yet since the change? Are the items any better? Maybe it hurts us now, but maybe soon it will be profitable again? I don't know. I am unhappy about it, but I wasn't quite as hardcore as some other venders...
at first i was a little mad when i saw this but lately i havent been able to profit off the machines because to many people are vending and getting the same items, so now that i thought about it, it is better this way. hopefully the items will increase more in price because less people vending them.
No when the items do become more expensive everyone will vend yet again and the prices will drop YET AGAIN I see nothing good comming from this .....
Normally I'm not a complainer. I didn't complain when doing wizard quests became less profitable. I didn't complain when the Saggitarius quests became harder. But now the vending machines are more expensive too? After the changes, these were my main source of income. I always liked the fact that Subeta was the kind of virtual pet site where you didn't need to be on for weeks on a row to get the pets and items you wanted. Sure, it's not all bad, but still, the easy-money aspect is gone now. Let's face it, you've changed Subeta... (But I still love it though. :p)
Oh sorry! Please?
It's not worth it when the items that come out aren't worth crap. Why should I now waste 4 tokens instead of 2 on items that are only worth 1sP to 100sP? I can buy then for cheaper and sell the tokens and make more sP.
If your going to do something like that at least put better stuff in the machines and a better ratio of UBs coming out. And put back the Subeutique items.
I know I won't be doing Wiz or vending for awhile, until I know it's actually worth it. May as well shut the machines down. Blah
Well, this is a nice change! I don't vend much, if at all really, but it'll be nice to see less of those junk items coming from OD and so on. This way RSing will be more profitable! <3 Thanks for the change!
usually if a business is struggling the lower their prices to try and lure more customers to buy their goods. Not doubling the prices to scare everyone AWAY.
Wrong move!
Oooooo between this, the minion feeding and the downtime people are NOT going to be happy folks. I better see some seriously GOOD MARDI GRAS items and fast! (How about Chinese New Year too?)
Finally, something is being done about vending machines. Yes, people are going to complain since their profits get cut now, but personally, I'm very happy with this change 
Good move, Keith.
if only they'd start giving out better prizes also then... Not a fan on the increase! ðŸ˜
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Shakes head The only thing that will come of this is that less people will vend. When vending is such a popular activity, I don't see how this could be a good thing.
How was it possibly in the red? 
Now I'll have to vend more tokens. xD Oh well at least its not getting rid of them entirely.
Anyone ever stop and think that the REASON vending didn't make very much profit at 2 tokens is because people were vending too much and flooding the market with items that became worthless? If anything this will make vending more profitable in the long run because less people vending=less market flooding of items. At least until everyone catches on and jumps on the craze again and cuts their own throats (so to speak) by over vending. Never could figure out why there were no limits in place from the beginning when everything else on the site has limits to avoid damaging the already fragile economy here. I think this is a good move, even if it's only a temporary fix at best.
lol! Ocean Depths needs to bring back Subeutique stuffs
Especially the astronomically priced retired items
well i tried to get into suggestions and ideas, but i cant so i am going to post here..my thought is that the vending machines are in the red because tokens cost so much and you only get that rare item now and then. now we have to use 4 tokens which averages 6000.00 and for what? to get a jumper that costs 100.00. and maybe, and i mean maybe.....get a rare item. i say either lower the cost of tokens or put better items in the machines and you will see a big turn around. thanks for letting me vent. have a great day!
Honestly, the first thing I thought when I saw this was "How on EARTH was it in the red? Those things get more action than [insert innappropriate reference here]!" XD
But I agree with the others. If you guys have to up the token intake per vend, we should at least get more decent stuff coming out. I know it's a game of luck and all that, but still..
Not to mention that the more rare items in the machines = more tokens being used = better for the economy, right?
But if the items are worth more, doesn't that mean the vending machines are still "losing money"? 
Sorry, just had to say it
Shakes head The only thing that will come of this is that less people will vend. When vending is such a popular activity, I don't see how this could be a good thing.
It's already been hard to make a profit from vending before, but now it's going to be very rare..... 
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Noooooo. Now I'll never get my Riptide or that shiny icy sword.
But if this means token sales go up.. then I'm happy. owo
Great... that just means no one's gonna use the machines
So much for vending. I don't usually complain about stuff like this either, but I think this is a bad move unless you make the prizes better.
Vending was one of the things that I really enjoyed about Subeta, and I thought the price was pretty fair considering you get common, not so good items most of the time.
Thumbs down.
Lol @ everyone complaining.
I don't see a problem with it.
Err. It's sometimes hard to make profit with 2 tokens, now it will be harder. o= I stopped before this, though xD when prize get things started to deflate a lot...
Hmm, this will make wizard tokens have a higher price...hehehe o3o not a bad idea. 3
Whoops, blank comment by accident xD Boo @ increase, I haven't gotten anything great with 2 tokens, doubt 4 tokens will change my luck @:! XD
That's awesome, great strategy. Should change Subeta's economy to something better.
Thanks Keith for at least addressing that you made the change and why. Ive been on other sites that make major changes like this and tend to ignore their members and their comments on it. I was shocked and a little upset to but if the items might get better that come out then im all for it! Thanks!
I am so happy I vended this morning...whew! this sucks
Well this doesn't make me happy. I guess I am done with vending machines and will just horde tokens. I barely break even on vending machines. 9 times out of 10 the tokens cost more then the return on items. This is just really messed up.
Actually, I think it's a good idea =3 I use the vending machines all the time, and right now I don't think many will profit from it, but as the cheaper items are being used, the prices will surely move up, and make a profit again. Although I must admit my jaw dropped to see the price doubled XD
But all in all, I think this is a good move =3
Who's craptastic idea was this? -sobs- My Subetian existence is smushed T.T
I really don't like this idea. We pay out the ...for wiz quest to get the tokens. What I used to get with 2 tokens overfilled my inventory, now with the cost at 4 my items were cut by half. And what I received was nothing more than what I had already been getting. I really think you need to revise this idea, or up the chances of better items.I also don't think the quest need to ask for so many items either, but.........anywho.