December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Whoa, okay. If anyone out there is contemplating sending hate mail, stop right there. 1) That is incredibly rude because Keshi (the artist) has worked her butt off on the revamp and deserves to be respected whether or not you like the final product she created. 2) Harassment/hate mails are against the terms and conditions of Subeta. 3) I will hunt you down and make you sorry :O!. It's perfectly fine to dislike the revamp, but it is beyond rude to send purposefully hurtful mail bashing the artist.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Kellendraysia
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Honestly I think that this pet should be left with its original incarnation. Personally I hate the name change to "Ontra" what is wrong with Otter? I think there are some characteristics of the second revamp for the otter that look good. Honestly I would like to see the muzzle to be even broader, if it is going to be somewhat based on a real animal Otters have as short broad muzzle not a dainty one. To me it feels like a round headed ferret or should I say pherret?

In the second revamp I like the body and the size of the otter's muzzle, though it still should be broader, in the original revamp I like the head shape, despite the forehead being to too tall and the eyes. I think that the first revamp's coloration is more suiting. I think the fluke on the first revamp is better suiting but I like the flow and lack of too much fluff on the second revamp. I find the second revamps composition to be much nicer then the first revamp. And I like the spotting pattern on the second revamp instead of the first but unfortunately I must vote for the original.

I think that this pet has a lot of potential and I am not saying this because the artist who redrew this particular animal is not talented. I find the work to be very well done, but to me it seems very ill suited. So I do apologize if I sound rude.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Schilloyo
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Nyeh, I liked the cute look in the original, but it seems that won't last. =/

I think it looks cuter with less detail, and has a cuter nose and such. =3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like the older revamp more... the new revamp seems to be missing some skull, and that bugs the crap out of me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I think they probably could have thought up a better name like...Otru...Yea I'm brain dead.Ignore that xD I like this one better then the first revamp. The shading if a little more softer, and the tail is positioned better and the eyes are cuter n_n

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

First for sure..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by starfish
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I don't know anything about "proper" shading... so I'll probably get yelled at for saying this... but it looks strange to me... that it seems like someone is pointing a spotlight at it's forehead. Every time I look at it, that's what catches my eye.

Overall though I think it's very cute! I never liked the old otter because it has such a vacant look, no neck, tail coming out of it's middle back, etc. The redraw gives it character and better form. The new name though... ehhh, not so much.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by PaintedSavages
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Thank you, I was about to ask that the artist not be revealed because Ive already gotten one person basically thanking me for asking so that they can send hate mail. Which is completely uncalled for.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Dreamcrystal
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honestly I like either of the revamps, but I think them unnecessary if other pets are getting revamped.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Oh this was a hard poll. I like the newest revamp's legs and tail, but like the colouring, arms and head from the original revamp. :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like the origional pet ;-; I was thinking about getting an otter, er, 'ontra', but if it gets revamped then I wouldn't really want it. I love the eyes on the new one, and the shading, but overall I like the origional the best. If there were ANY pet that did not need a revamp, it would be otter (along with kerubi, too~nya!). but the results look like otter will be revamped and I know my friend Hannah (Reeweta) will be, like, practically heartbroken because she liked the origional alot, and she only has 2 pets - both are otters. I don't really like the new name - Ontra? Sounds like Montre just a bit to me ;_; Sorry if I sound rube or corny or whatever, but, Bleh. I never really minded any of the revamps other than dragon, but I didn't realy like the dragons in the first place so that was fine. But now otter, I'll really dislike the revamp. when I get Matt to sign up he'll go to make his pet and II'll point and say That used to be a cute, fuzzy little otter, now its and ontra. Once again sorry if I sound complaintative, rude, corny, snotty, whatever. I'm just expressing my self and how I feel about this possible revamp. All in all, what I'm trying to say here is: Please dont revamp the Otter!!!!!!!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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Hmm hard to chose, the old revamp has some characteristics are are better than the new revamp, like the fur on the head is better in the old revamp, but the tail is better in the new revamp

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

CombuskensFlame*

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

No Such User drew both revamps .

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I'm good as long as the spectrum doesn't get messed up snugs Phizzles

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by JESSYTA
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The name was changed to indicate that this is a Subeta-species, and not a drawing of the otter that exists on Earth.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Patch
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its lovely. its lineart is nice and the eyes are gorgeous. but why did we have to change the name? im glad we did though. Ontra is way more origonal and it sounds kinda musical.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

This looks like a cleaned-up version of the old revamp. I just hope that the chosen picture is either the oldest picture or the newest picture.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Agreed completely, WolfieWU =( I love my otterrrr

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by WolfieWU
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Gah. That last post should have had a picture of the otter elixir.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by PaintedSavages
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May I ask ( and get a responce ) who the artist for this (ontra as whole) redraw is?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by WolfieWU
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._. I really don't think the otters need a revamp, i LOVE the way my OTTER is, just the way she is. That, and I hate the name ontra. The head and muzzle don't look right, and make the otter lose everything about it that was once cute. Also, none of the paw pads are showing, which takes it down even lower on the cute meeter. and lastly, the tail still looks too thin/small.

If you're going to try and do a re-vamp to the loveable otter, at least make it look like this: I think a revamp that looked like the potion would get a lot of votes. That, and I wouldn't be sad over my pet changing into something bleh. You don't want me to be sad, do you? But, knowing that no matter what I say, the re-vamp is still going to look like.. yeah. I guess I need to make plans to turn my pet into something completely different.. looks at dusk otter item collection and wails

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by topizots
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The head and feet are all wrong to me, respectively said. Its sad the pads of the feet aren't shown as they are so cute that way on the original. I also like the nice, round head without such a gigantor muzzle on the original.

But, I respect the democracy of the poll

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

The forehead still seems a bit too wide to me.. I don't think the top of the head is fluffy enough to offset that. And why can't we see any cute Otter pawpads? Last complaint.. What's up with the Ontra thing? The Kanis thing took getting use to, but Ontra.. It's unneeded and frankly dosen't sound that good. Keep the Otter name! One thing I like is the slightly darker color. Looks a bit better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Dallas
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Oh it's cute! Though it still bugs me that it doesn't have ears. Without a small indication of ears the Ontra's head looks really strange.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Imp
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I'll be sad to see the otter go.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I think it's dumb how some of them have just normal names like "otter" and "dragon," but "ontra" sounds weird too.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I love the body of the new revamp. I think you should combine the new revamps body with the orginal's revamps head. That would look great.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by ANiME_ANGEL12_523
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o.o whoa...they changed the name?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Lenneth_Valkyrie
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They changed the name O.o...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Blithe
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The head seems a tad bit small on this one..but if you combined the head..and tail, of the original revamp with this revamp then I think it'd look awesome n_n.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by sandorliki
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Old revamp looked like it had boobs. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by reedz
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I really preferred when it was called the otter. Gave me, kind of, an idea of its cutesy nature, you know? Ontra sounds too...odd :X

I mean, the Dragon is an awesome pet, and it has an animal name. Can we keep the original name please?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Drayk
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Hm Ontra will take some getting used to...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like the original revamp, though I do like Otter better than Ontra...

I voted for the original revamp regardless. There's something about the new one that I don't like.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by nailtea
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I'm not in love with the spots, but it's eyes are so cute I caved into voting for this one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

The Ontra? o.o ;( I liked Otter!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Nickle
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Does this mean I'm going to have to remember to type Ontra instead of otter when doing Item Identifier? xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by azazel
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Over all I think this one is better, but I really don't like the name. I think it's a good thing to have it be something other than otter, but ontra is too much like montre.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Ontra?? Change the name back.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Hm...what about other things on Subeta with real-world names...okay, there's only one I can think of now. The Musical Note minion? I'm all up for a name-change of that little guy. Just throwing it out there...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like the colour on the second one better, but this one's tail position is much nicer.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Luxe
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The name change is so that no one expects Subeta's otter to look like a real world otter. This makes it more our creature.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like the body on the new revamp better, but I prefer the old revamp's head... hm.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I dont quite understand why its so important to change the name, its not like Otter is copyrighted or anything. Its an animal. But, aside from the name change, i would definately like to see a shorter snout

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

ontra? well, love the new revamp ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Laura_291
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I still like the old Otter/Ontra best. The 2 redraws makes it look kind of.. old, compared to the cuter version. XD I guess I prefer this redraw to the first though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Foolkillersfancy
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Ontra? Old people hate change! walks off mumbling (love the arts tho)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Becky_887
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...Ontra?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by PaintedSavages
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Oh and ha ha, yeah I don't think Im goin to be able to call it by its new name for a LONG time either XD otterotterotter

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