I love the paralix =X!
Magnus: Gargoyle, made of stone, angular, short snout, almond shaped eyes, horn on nose and head, two toned face, and ears.
Dragon: European-based dragon, made of flesh and scales, rounded and muscular, large, long snout, no horns, curly antennae, one-toned face, no ears, and gumdrop shaped eyes.
Not to mention that this revamp was to go back to the original dragon which was bipedal, quite round, and did not have a moustache. Contrary to popular belief, we are thinking about what we revamp and why when we do it.
Shut up! Shut up all of you! Your al being so childish! Spiritchan, go find another site to pick holes at! Chimera, ignore Spiritchan, it's not worth it!
Twins?
Spirit, you really have no capacity for comprehending sarcasm, do you?
All you've done is proven what a useless effort trying to talk sense into you is.
XD Thanks for proving my point.. See those differences I told you about? That's it folks.. that's all there is.
Man, they look EXACTLY alike! :|
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Oh, don't worry dear - I think we've well stopped now. ^.^
Please people stop fighting! I hate it when people fiht ;-;
Darling, I could make a list.. but you're right - it is useless drama - because everything that is said, is never taken to heart. And Kelpie, I've several humble "inquiries" for you - but they have nothing to do with the subject at hand (revamps), so they won't be mentioned here.. and yes, on the note of the dragon revamp.. we've the mangus (same thing, with ears, horns, and a pointy nose), and the dragon (apparently, the same thing without ears, floppy antennae thingies, and a round nose).. Difference in the species? Nope, not much. The mangus was to be thin, and lithe and evil. The dragon (to my understanding) was to be chubby, wingless, and friendly... Now it looks, they're nearly twins.
Spirit, no offense, but this argument of yours seems a bit rediculous. I haven't seen anyone saying that Subeta is corrupt or ruined. I think perhaps if you don't like the way things are going around here, then just stop getting on here and causing useless drama over something simple as a pet revamp. It's not that big a deal to go around spreading rumours. My opinion only. As staff members and other users have said, Staff works very hard to please Subeta users, but you can't please everyone at once. Remember that fable from when you were a child?
This HAS to mean that the one I'm waiting for is coming tommorrow or in July. YESH So close!
I'm thinking about saving up to change a pet into a galactic torrey...but...maybe not. It would be dull and confusing if all me pets were spacy. Renn's definetely not gonna change into anything other than arid, at least I know that. Subeta, you're spoiling us. grin Now I'm wandering away from my original goal again.
I love the Paralix and the Dragon omg their so cool looken!
These new pets rock my Galactic socks! 
Hmmm. I may need to save up RL money to make more pet spots, these are too cool not to own!
runs off to annoy the gypsies
Oddly enough, there happens to be a thread in Bragging and Complaining asking for feedback on the dragon, serpenth, and paralix. The thread was started by Chimaera showing that we're not wholly corrupt. These pets were a way of piloting and polling possible revamps. Sure it's not an official poll, but it serves the same purpose.
Spirit, I believe it's been said time and time again to former staff members. You are no longer staff. To pretend that you still know the inner workings of staff and its policies is ignorant on your part. Things change. You would be wise to remember that next time you want to fling an accusation, and perhaps make a humble inquiry instead.
well, I don't know whats going on.. I never do lol
But I love them. All the Galactic pets are neat 
Oh my goodness, this batch was well worth waiting for. They're all amazing...o -so tempted-
If I didn't already have a galactic pet, I'd be tempted to get the Keeto (is that is, the one on upper left?).
I think they look nice, good job artists.
Wow, if this happens everytime new colors (revamps) are released I really wonder why the stuff keep on enjoying making new things for the users. @-@ And if the Admins/Staff wasnt listening how come they care for what the users wish to be wearable for example? sigh It should be logical that you simply cant make EVERYONE happy - it does not work.
oops lol
"(Also, XPrimalEyesX, who is is a dragon"
Spirit, it might not be my place as an artist to say that, but ou're getting WAY off topic. :/ Also, a thing users don't quite get, it seems. is that we put a crapload of time into those pets, items, NPCs... you name it. "Yea I know but we have the right to not like it", y'know what? Yes, you have the right to not like it, you have the right to critique. But there's a way to do it politely regardless of the image you're looking at. The artist has been working their butts over this image, most probably, to give you a result that pleased the staff and that we thought would please you. Having the users turn around and tell us this or that pet wasn't how -they- expected is not only rude, but it's annoying. The more people we have doing this, the less patience and confidence we have; hello? We're humans, not machines. We can't -possibly- hope to take all of your critiques, all of you may it be 100k of users or half of them. Trust me, we'd love to; I know I would love to take all the critiques and just... magically whip a pet out of my ass that would please the entire population of Subeta. But I can't. It's not human to be able to do that. Most pet artists get hurt by the comments and refuse to read them any further for this particular reason. hence the lack of communication between staff artists and the users.
I consider myself as a very sociable person, someone who is very open to critiques, and so is Chim. I've know her for quite long enough to be able to say her(and our) buttons have been pushed to their limits of the acceptable. I don't claim to know everything about art, I don't claim to be the best artist there is around, which is why I'm open to users, might it be critiques or other stuff.
ChimaeraAndDream I know... I just felt like I needed to put a word in xD
"(Also, XPrimalEyesX, who [b]is[b] is a dragon"
Oh and.... I think you guys are making to much of a big deal over something so stupid. Who cares if they revamp the Paralix or any other pet? Its not your site. Deal with it, just like everyone said with the... Ahem, "longcat". We need to except change and embrace it. This site is for older users and all`s I see is a bunch of people acting like there ten. Stop being so immature over something so simple as a revamp. Change happens... Deal with it.
Just the usual pet-release fight, Vanilla. No cause for alarm.
What the freak happened here.... Man Im so late.. But I also see nothing wrong with the anatomy on bot dragons.... I think you guys just need to calm down cause they both look fine... You guys are just paying to much attention to the shading and its fooling you..... But I do have to agree, I hope the Paralix doesnt get revamped to something like that... The one we have now looks much nicer.
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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">You know, I wish I could quote some of those users that came forth - but then again, I deleted all the mails, after all, I don't want my mail read again, so that people who carry strong opinons can get bent over the table.
How convenient. I had no idea you were the Subeta agony aunt.
if the dragon revamp continues on the same thread as the galactic one just released.. why have a dragon and a magnus? they'd look practically the same. you can see there was a lot of effort put into these pieces but i don't like the paralix and the serpenth just because they are glaringly inconsistent with their species. perhaps this is fine, if the species are going to be revamped.. but i think the paralix species as a whole looks amazing as it is, and i'd hate to see it revamped into the same style as the galactic.
Dragon Heart I totally understand, I felt the same way about Angelic Feli. I waited ages for it, and was very disappointed with how it turned out.
Sometimes I think we get an idea in our head of what a certain color will look like and when it's not what we expected it's a really big let down.
Hopefully some other pet tickles your fancy soon and you forget about this disappointment?
If not getting to make demands on every single pet that comes around is the definition corruption, it's certainly news to me.
We ask for input. We listen to what the users are saying (which is NOT, might I add, the same as -doing as they say every time-). We poll revamps when we think a poll is necessary. If we don't, we don't.
The assumption that you will always get what you want needs to have an end put to it. There's a thick air around here that everything should be done at the whim of individual users, and it unfortunately does not work like that in most sane games. We will take some input, yes, but not all of it.
And if you think we're evil, corrupt, etcetcetc just by simple things like PET REVAMPS, well...there isn't much we can do to change your mind, is there? 
"Those who don't will either learn to like them, come to accept them, or speak out against them. "
The thing is that those who speak out against them, or suggest a smaller change get bluntly ignored, Chimaera. It happened more than once.
I'm done, no more rants. I need a breath of fresh air.
On that note - one of the SOLE reasons that many people like subeta as opposed to other pet sites, is how the staff holds themselves to the user-base.. You know, letting them participate in large decisions (like pet revamps), letting them know what's going on, etc etc... That little aspect of subeta that went poof out the door? I know you've got to be trying your best, but to let go of core ideals? That's sad.
Like I said. No matter how hard we "try", someone will always be disappointed. We do the best damn work we can do, 24/7, and someone will always walk away upset.
You get used to it.
I also KNEW how hard it was to be consistant with the pet species itself, and I also KNEW how hard it was to bring out something that the users would appreciate... And dear, it's not because of the particular pet - it's because of how Subeta has been going in general. The surprise today, was the hoard of people who voiced their opinions, letting me know their feelings - that subeta has become something it should not... The artwork, you should know, is absolutely wonderful - but it's the problem behind it that bothers me most... You know, I wish I could quote some of those users that came forth - but then again, I deleted all the mails, after all, I don't want my mail read again, so that people who carry strong opinons can get bent over the table.
Like someone wouldn't be convinced Subeta was becoming "corrupt" anyway. Conspiracy theories are all the rage, didn't you know?
To advance, some things must change. Not everyone will like every change. Those who don't will either learn to like them, come to accept them, or speak out against them.
One particular change is the fact that we're accepting that we can't make everyone happy, and so now we make decisions based on what we believe will add new interest to the site and our pets.
Some people will like our new changes. Some people will hate them. Some won't mind either way.
That's just how statistics work.
(And for the record, I suspect plenty of people probably think I'm evil or something fun like that. Nope, I just make hard decisions sometimes, folks. Part of being human, and part of working a management job.)
Jessyta, I was looking forward to getting a Galactic Paralix, I wanted to turn my Galactic Escalade into one. I love the Paralix species, I have a gallery dedicated to it. I've had a Paralix before the first revamp. I've gotten a bunch after they were redrawn and Sooki did a wonderful job with them. Now... I want to sit and cry. Just sit and cry.
I appreciate the effort and work, but... Really. Try harder when continuing to draw pets which originally belonged to a fired staff artist.
Wow. It's sad to see such disrespect from someone who KNOWS how hard it is to be a staff artist. 
Folks if you dislike a certain pet, perhaps you'd just be best off not getting one. It's not like any of us can have one of every pet anyways right?
O_o Oh my gosh... I don't know when the Serpenth got a Galactic color, but I'm seriously shaking in my chair. It looks SO GOOD! So evil, yet..yet...Godly. I MUST know who drew it, so I may worship that person and kiss their virtual feet. I don't think I've been so stunned since the Reborn Donadak.
"do what we think will be best recieved by the users." .. Oh.. so THATS why you have a whole hoard of users that feel Subeta has become corrupt! Silly me. XD (and for your information - this came to me as a surprise, which is WHY I'm making such noise - they're afraid to do so!).. And, on another note.. No, I don't know how you handle things anymore - but neither do the users.... And, on that note as well.. Does this mean you will be revamping the Dragon, Paralix, and Lasirus? (I hope I spelled that right)...
ChimaeraAndDream, you're so blunt. I LOVE YOU. XD Blunt Honesty is better than fluffy fake ones.
Anyhow! About the pets! I like the dragons. They look very vicious and dragon-like. Though, I'm going to start saving the old Paralix pet images I like, because I fear that this is a foreshadowing of a species re-draw. Not that it's a bad one or anything.
The Keeto looks strange to me. But oh wells.
And the Torrey actually looks good! This and the reborn are about the only good looking themes the poor Torrey has. (My opinion of course)
Spirit, keep bashing all you like. It's not going to change anything; you can either keep carrying on or drop this.
Firstly, policy changes. Secondly, we--as a group, not speaking for myself here--do what we think will be best recieved by the users. Again as a whole, not referring to you, your highness.
Third, the staff customs were brought on as a gift to us from Keith--and as you may have noticed if you frequent the forums or consequently do not live under a rock, we are changing them to non-customs because, lo and behold, it didn't work out so we're going to try something else.
I don't know who you think made you the expert on staff, but being as though you don't know how we handle things or what we're working towards now, you're a bit lacking.
(And, as I'm sure someone will point out my daring to be so blunt--I can exercise the right and pleasure just as much as anyone else, and especially in response to the same in kind.
The Galactic Dragon looks so pretty I just had to go and change my Liung. ish blinded by the shining prettyness
Ah - thank you for clearning that up about the "bumping" - My computer only shows.. well.. certainly not enough comments. On the other note.. was it not supposed to be polled, if any species was going to be revamped? I.. saw no poll - instead, you surprise the users?... And Tat, I know this is all good and fun for you, but if you were able to see my first comment - it would be to the effect of "you've either messed up, or are revamping it"... Yes, I was aware that that was a good possiblity, but.. wouldnt' it make more senese to revamp it first, THEN bring out the "new" stuff - as opposed to raising people in a fuss? Indeed, as one of the other users mentioned, I couldn't even tell it was a dragon at first - I had to right click to look at the file-name to figure it out! And, speaking of the dragarth revamp - was somebody totally out of town when it was shaded? Even from two feet away, it looks like there is 0 shading on that... even less so than on the original dragarth.. Granted, the anatomy is better, but the shading is horrific.. Why have I not commented until now? Because I figured it was just a one-time "mistake".. it seems lots of them have been made.. How about that rule, where we were not to make staff-related items, because we didn't wanna' be to "full of ourselves".. Has that rule gone out the window too? It seems to have, yes.
I am in love with the Paralix^^ I hope if there is a revamp, they'll look similar to that. This one looks so vicious drool
I didn't recognize the dragon at first. It looks amazing^^
Great job artists!!
Oh I just noticed the claws on the paralix and dragon. They are great. Those wings on the dragon are smexy :3
D= Ew no! Don't revamp the Paralix to look like that new one! N'or the dragon. ;; They both look fine like they are. While I admitt, there are some decent things on these, they just don't match up with how good they looked before. No offence to the artist of these, but there's a lot of work to be done.
LaraAnita, perhaps it's best not to get involved.