New Project - Armory Sorting

Hello, Subetans! We have a battle-related community project, with a shiny new icon cosmetic as a prize for your help. Subeta has a lot of fun items, and we'd like to catch up on the organization of them with your thoughts and feedback to inform new features. Please read the instructions and give the armory sorting a try here!

FYI, Survival will not be starting tomorrow. Please don't post Survival questions to this news post, let's stay on (sword) point for the sorting. Thank you!

February 14, 2022, 3:17 am by indica
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there should be a category for minions/creatures since i ran into quite a few equippable minions and non-minion creatures when sorting haha xD

February 14, 2022, 2:49 am by kaliope
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Does it count right? I got the achievement and avatar boarder and I doubt I sorted 250 items already.

February 14, 2022, 2:40 am by Silverfish
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I'm so confused for half of these, but okay

Some blatant examples would probably come in handy

February 14, 2022, 1:31 am by Kinky
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, So did I. If it didn't have an aura, even if it was a wand or something, I didn't mark it as magical. Like, obviously they are probably magical, but most didn't have an aura.

February 14, 2022, 1:28 am by Syre
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I think a category like "support" would be a good addition (for things like shrines and auras that surround the pet). Even if they do damage as well, they're not really weapons you wield in 1-2 hands or throw. Also something like "minion" (not that exact word maybe to avoid confusion with the other kinds of minions we have on site). There seem to be a lot of items that are just an animal/spirit you bring with you to battle. As mentioned by others there are some weapon types that pop up a lot, like daggers, that could use their own subcategory.

Also I think bows could just be available as 2-handed only and shields as 1-handed only. For regular bows you can't use them 1-handed, and most shields would be 1-handed (I guess you could have a really wide shield that requires 2 hands, but I don't know if we have an item like that and it would be an exception). Everything else seems like it could be both 1 or 2-handed, but bow/shield just seem like they never would. (Unless you're dual wielding shields :P). (Also, for 2-handed orbs, I've been putting the SubetaBalls there because mentally I think of them as having the size of basketballs).

I haven't been looking at the actual stats of any weapons, only considering the item/overlay art and name/description. I find it a bit hard to judge what is magical and not. It seems like almost everything could be magical. Are all elements magic? Then any weapon that does any damage aside from Physical would be magical. But to avoid classing everything as magic, I've been thinking that it should seem truly magical, and not just reference an element.

February 14, 2022, 1:03 am by Luck
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Oh - it seems I took it mega Literally and only marked things as magical if they had an aura 😳

February 14, 2022, 12:27 am by kytten
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Did the best i could! The border is very pretty. :)

February 14, 2022, 12:19 am by Thia
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maybe there should be a category for things like hammers and baseball bats. Bludgeon?

February 14, 2022, 12:01 am by Tribble
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I have been assuming all amulets and wands are magic, otherwise going by name or item description

February 13, 2022, 11:55 pm by Scathach
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How does one tell if an item is magical?

February 13, 2022, 11:54 pm by Thia
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okay how can an orb be one-handed or two-handed?

February 13, 2022, 11:53 pm by Trees
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Will there be other chances to get the border if we don't get it this time?

February 13, 2022, 11:42 pm by Tribble
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How do we tell a one handed shield from a two handed shield?

February 13, 2022, 11:42 pm by demon
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mostly the quills confused me, i placed them in other.

February 13, 2022, 11:41 pm by Thia
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okay turns out if you refresh the page, you get a new item, so you can just do that if you're not sure of something

February 13, 2022, 11:39 pm by Thia
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does a crown count as a helm?

February 13, 2022, 11:30 pm by Valiska
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You need a knife category. They're not swords!

February 13, 2022, 11:26 pm by Reaper
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Seconding or thirding or possibly more-ing folks who've brought up that we need a "this is not a weapon" option. On top of things like , I have now also gotten which I can see is classed as a weapon but like...why? As far as I can tell it has no stats at all.

February 13, 2022, 11:25 pm by Satyr
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I feel like I used "other" too many times, but oh well. I had fun with it.

February 13, 2022, 11:20 pm by Marina
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Wow, I didn't think of checking the achievements either, haha. Thanks for the tip!

Though I was wondering if it was going to count towards the "Helper" achievement ("Help the Subeta Team with something important!"). What is that achievement used for these days?

February 13, 2022, 11:14 pm by Reaper
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Now why you gotta go and be logical like that? Lol! I forgot achievements were a thing to check headdesk

February 13, 2022, 11:12 pm by Tribble
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I keep going back to my achievements to check progress

February 13, 2022, 11:11 pm by Reaper
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Only complaint is that I wish there was a counter somewhere so I could see how much progress I've made towards 250 lol

February 13, 2022, 11:04 pm by Nerds
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I think worn items doesn't always mean they're in the wearable system.

February 13, 2022, 10:58 pm by Marina
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I had no idea that the Twilight Potion was a weapon. Neat.

Also, I want to second that I keep getting stuck debating myself on one- vs two-handed bows...Pretty sure all longbow-style bows should be 2-handers, though. Maybe small crossbows could be 1-handed.

February 13, 2022, 10:50 pm by Terra
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also! is 'magical' for things like wand/staffs (ie things that magic casters might use) or is it for items that have some kind of aura in the art? like dark matter?

February 13, 2022, 10:49 pm by Greymane
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Suggested additions: Under Wearable: -Face -Back -Wrist

Not a Weapon - For mistakes

And "Meteor Crossbow" is clearly a longbow. :P

February 13, 2022, 10:47 pm by Terra
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we need a category for dagger/knives, whips, and scythes. i'm also unsure how to differentiate between one-handed and two-handed weapons? do we go by the wardrobe overlay--where most weapons are held in one hand just due to the base--or whether the weapon is traditionally used with one or two hands in real life? i am confusion.

February 13, 2022, 10:45 pm by NoLongerHuman
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nice! I tried my best judgment (and some research) to sort everything that was shown to me. hope to have helped a bit. thanks for the border <3

February 13, 2022, 10:45 pm by Kinky
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, I went with 'other' as well, but someone further down said you could put them into the sword category. Those, hammers, scythes, and lances just went into 'other' because they don't really fit into any other category right, imo.

February 13, 2022, 10:38 pm by Armor
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I keep forgetting to select "magical" for things that are obviously magical (wands etc) -o-

I've been choosing "other" for daggers/knives as well--they're not really the same as swords!

February 13, 2022, 10:32 pm by Tribble
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I have been choosing "other" for daggers and knives, as they aren't really swords. What is everyone else doing with them?

February 13, 2022, 10:22 pm by Snowwall
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for me looks wearable (previews to a "held in one hand" avatar). So, is it "Worn" or "One Handed"?! "One-handed" can be a shield, while "Worn" cannot be...

Particulars aside, I would love an explanation as to what the five categories are meant to be. You know, for the non-battle-oriented folk who haven't the foggiest what is the difference between a potion and a bomb battle-wise and can only go by the look of the item?

February 13, 2022, 10:20 pm by Ariko
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Yessssss organizing items my beloved pastime ❤️ And the sort page is so neat and organized too. Categories could use some additions (lances/spears, daggers, minion) but overall very relaxing. I love putting things into neat little (virtual) boxes~

February 13, 2022, 10:18 pm by Les
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Hmmm... Hammer might be another category needed depending on how many hammers i run across...

February 13, 2022, 10:14 pm by Dracona
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I did the best I could!

February 13, 2022, 10:03 pm by Kinky
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Welp, did my best with my limited knowledge of the items!

February 13, 2022, 10:02 pm by Mort
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I apologize in advance for the potential mistakes. I will sort out the rest in the next few days.

February 13, 2022, 9:52 pm by Blythe
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I love all of the items I’m discovering. Goose-a-pult, anyone? Also, didn’t realize was a weapon…um…other, other. 😂

February 13, 2022, 9:48 pm by Julie
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I like to check to see if I have some of these weapons. Plus it reminds me of all the awesome battle weapons the site has.

February 13, 2022, 9:46 pm by Delphi
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Done! Good luck to the rest of you all! ♥️

February 13, 2022, 9:46 pm by BlueRiver
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Say, what about healers like ? Where do those go?

February 13, 2022, 9:30 pm by Blythe
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I just realized you can only choose one option. I was pretty pleased with myself - this one is worn on the hand AND thrown AND an other type weapon…whoopsies. So, now I’ll just do the one that seems like it makes the most sense. I like these kind of all-hands-on-deck projects. 😊

February 13, 2022, 9:23 pm by Rude
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Every time I submit one, the item preview for the next won't even pop up unless I refresh entirely. Any idea if there's a fix for this?

February 13, 2022, 9:06 pm by Nebet
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I just got the border, I did the best I could! :) This was kinda fun yet challenging.

February 13, 2022, 8:32 pm by Narshe
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I dont do battles or pets to have an opinion over this but I am interested to see what follows!

February 13, 2022, 8:29 pm by Pinocchio
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It's really hard to see the "Magical" checkbox, but now that I know where it is I'LL DO MY BEST. The achievement for this popped up yesterday and I was like "??? Where is this sorting project" but here it is finally. XD

February 13, 2022, 8:15 pm by Galaxia
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We're not removing this for a bit, there are a lot of items to go through. So you have some time if you need to get to it later, and we'll provide notice if a deadline is set.

Giving it your best shot is the whole of it, thank you for helping!

February 13, 2022, 8:11 pm by Galaxia
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You're not going to be docked for having an opinion, promise! Especially on matters of whether something is magical or not, or if you make a judgement call on the description rather than the overlay or vice versa. Even just putting something in the other>other category because you're just not sure about it is going to be all right.

Please don't feel bad for pinging me, I'm glad to help! You can put it in 'other' right now if you prefer, or you could put it in swords depending on how you feel about the length and classification. It's less about right or wrong. More the idea of if we were to make an opponent or an event in the future that used these categories, what helps with that experience? If a battle opponent or NPC had swords listed as an interest or item pool, what out of Subeta's battle items would you expect to see (or what would throw you out of immersion)?

February 13, 2022, 8:11 pm by Anrivef
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Took me a little under 2 hours to get the achievement, cross-referencing with Subegalodge for weapon info (many thanks to them!!) This was a great task, and a wonderful reward for it c: thanks for letting us help!

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