New Project - Armory Sorting

Hello, Subetans! We have a battle-related community project, with a shiny new icon cosmetic as a prize for your help. Subeta has a lot of fun items, and we'd like to catch up on the organization of them with your thoughts and feedback to inform new features. Please read the instructions and give the armory sorting a try here!

FYI, Survival will not be starting tomorrow. Please don't post Survival questions to this news post, let's stay on (sword) point for the sorting. Thank you!

February 14, 2022, 6:13 pm by MarchOnOff
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Got it, thanks :)

Well, this was fun actually, thanks for the border guys! <3

February 14, 2022, 2:26 pm by Stocking
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Glad to find out these are weapons LOL

I mostly went off what the item image looks like and what knowledge I do have of weapons (such as sporks are one handed swords) because the wearable overlays would stop loading after the first couple items. I realized nearing 250 that the subjectiveness of this should be very helpful.

February 14, 2022, 2:24 pm by Bokuto
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always happy to help with little tasks like this :D plus it helps with the wait for the token shop

February 14, 2022, 2:01 pm by Theatre
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At least for the first 250, you can use the achievement as a counter to track how many you've done.

February 14, 2022, 1:59 pm by Rathoren
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how do we know how many items we have helped sort? can you guys do a counter?

February 14, 2022, 1:53 pm by METROID
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Bats would be a club or blunt weapon. Maces are technically this too (their special trademark are the spikes on the end to inflict bleed damage), but not all blunt weapons are a mace! Your hammers, clubs, bats, maces and general heavy object used for whacking something over the head for blunt force trauma is going to be a blunt weapon.

February 14, 2022, 1:45 pm by Tessalia
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thank you for this, I love to help!! I have to admit that it is a relief to read the comments and see I am not the only one with questions in regards to some items... phew! doing my best but things like, for example, a bat... is it a mace? I assumed so. Look forward to what you guys do with these categories --the Battle coliseum was due an update!! (such as being able to train all your pets with just one click, instead of going one by one as we have to right now) :) Love subeta and proud to say I have been a member for close to 15 years! <3

February 14, 2022, 1:27 pm by Marcus
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Always happy to help with little tasks like this - I'm curious to see what these will be used for in battling, and how the battling system is going to change!

February 14, 2022, 1:22 pm by Chinchilla
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And yeah, you have to refresh every now and again when it's taking too long.

February 14, 2022, 1:21 pm by Chinchilla
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Thank you for the clarification. Sounds good!

February 14, 2022, 1:21 pm by METROID
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Also I think I broke the sorting page, now it's perpetually spinning in loading. xD i don't think I've gotten every weapon yet!

February 14, 2022, 1:18 pm by METROID
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Scepters are generally a staff, but if it looks short when held in the HA, like doesn't reach the ground, I'd call it more a wand. There was one scepter I listed as a wand because it looked more like one than a staff.

February 14, 2022, 1:16 pm by Keith
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All of the items coming up either can be used in battle, or have some sort of 🤫 secret use. Usually they're old PVP items (like the potions....... you could throw them at a pet in PvP and change their color 🙃 why did I do that?!) -- just choose whatever feels right and we'll be able to pull out some useful information :D

February 14, 2022, 1:06 pm by Chinchilla
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A suggestion. Instead of having "sword" as a category, maybe make it "blade" so the daggers and knives can go with them?

Also would a scepter be on handed staff or a wand? I've been doing one handed staff as most staffs are two handed.

February 14, 2022, 12:41 pm by Bliss
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Thank you so much for clearing that up. It would be neat to see other things like this in the future :)

February 14, 2022, 12:33 pm by Galaxia
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Keith's not adding other categories right now since the sorting has started to keep things more organized, but more categories like that might be part of doing another round with another prize. In the meantime, the vibe is the thing and a lot of this is subjective anyway. Mistakes aren't going to count against people, we promise. This is for research purposes to improve projects in the future, not to punish people for giving us their time and effort (which we very much appreciate!)

February 14, 2022, 11:15 am by METROID
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Basically a greatsword or sword that would be determined as two-handed is going to have a long grip as opposed to a short sword. If it looks heavy, has a huge blade or a long grip, it's going to probably be a two-handed weapon in battle. Big clubs and hammers and double-sided axes are also going to be two-handed typically.

February 14, 2022, 11:10 am by feral
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Sorting these made me realize how little variety we actually have in weapon types OTL

February 14, 2022, 11:09 am by Bliss
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We have a lot of one handed items and a lot of items that don't fit any category

February 14, 2022, 11:05 am by Bliss
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I noticed those too. I've been putting them as "other"

February 14, 2022, 10:59 am by Kicak
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- shields go under one-handed: shield imo. "Worn" category is not about whether a particular battle item doubles as a wearable. For example: a sword item may double as a wearable on the avatar, but it's a sword and goes into one/two handed sword category. And a chest-armor item may not double as a wearable on the avatar at all, but in theory it's an item meant to be worn and goes into "worn" category.

February 14, 2022, 10:54 am by Christopher
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Is it possible to make the checkbox next to "Magical" darker, because I literally could not see it for like 10 minutes until I read comments and realized it was a checkbox NEXT to the title

February 14, 2022, 10:49 am by Bliss
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I've been getting potions (like spectrum and sun). I don't think those are weapons, unless I'm wrong.

I also thought of some more categories: powders (bottles of powder, sacks) Rayguns Talisman Charms Potions you drink (Pylonics)

February 14, 2022, 10:48 am by METROID
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We also need a blunt weapon category. Clubs, bats and hammers all fall under blunt force weaponry.

February 14, 2022, 10:45 am by METROID
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Basically we have a lot of weapons that don't fit the listed categories, which is just a slight oversight. Like, we have a lot of polearms, which include spears, glaives, halberds, pikes and lances. These are weapons that have excellent spacing, usually light enough to be one-handed, are usually fast. We have glove/clawing weapons that don't fit any category either.

February 14, 2022, 10:41 am by Bliss
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Is it possible to get categories for daggers, knives, whips, scythes and magical weapons? I tried really hard to help and so far (I just want to help), I've done over 250. What happens if we try to help, but make mistakes? I'm not really concerned about the avatar border , but for those users who are--what happens if they tried and made mistakes? Do they get to keep the border?

February 14, 2022, 10:33 am by Bliss
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Damn. I'll have to put knives and daggers under other. I'm sure staff know that they're gonna have to re-sort these for mistakes ;-;

February 14, 2022, 10:29 am by METROID
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Technically no. Daggers/knives are a short-range weapon that require up-close and personal type of combat. These are stabbing/thrust weapons typically, though not unusual to use slashing moves, but the idea is to stab as many times as possible quickly. A sword is different as it gives you some spacing, and is comfortably wielded as both thrust and slash. Katanas are a sword though, a specific kind of of course.

February 14, 2022, 10:20 am by Bliss
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I've been putting dagger(s) under sword. I hope that's still considered the same thing?

February 14, 2022, 10:07 am by METROID
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I put those under trinket - other

February 14, 2022, 9:54 am by Bliss
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Trying my best to help :)

February 14, 2022, 9:05 am by MarchOnOff
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Where to place Defense Tag or Sack of Crystalline Shards, for instance?

February 14, 2022, 9:02 am by MarchOnOff
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Aha, ok, thanks. But there's some items I have no idea where to place them, like a wearable that's also a bomb that's also held and we don't have held...feels like Joey in Friends, a pen that's also a clock...

February 14, 2022, 8:58 am by Marina
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There's a new achievement that gives you the border, you can check your current number completed there!

February 14, 2022, 8:53 am by METROID
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I'd look at the size of the shield, especially if you hover over and the HA is wearing it. If it is a small shield, it's easily one-handed. A two-handed shield is going to take up a huge portion of the canvas even if the HA is able to hold it one-handed.

February 14, 2022, 8:50 am by EsMentiras
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please please please add a section for daggers!

February 14, 2022, 8:45 am by Caterpillar
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Are there no more items to sort once it doesn't load up any more items?

February 14, 2022, 8:37 am by MarchOnOff
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Uhm...been clicking and reading on stuff for like 30 min, is anything suppose to happen? Do I keep going on...?

February 14, 2022, 8:26 am by KEN
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I agree with This project should give out the 'Help Subeta With Something Important' achievement.

February 14, 2022, 8:04 am by METROID
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I mean there's no spork category. HOW COULD YOU FORGET THE ALMIGHTY SPORK?

February 14, 2022, 8:01 am by METROID
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Basically if you're gonna pull from Dark Souls, pull every category of weapon. xD You could probably get away with not using ultra greatswords or katanas for categories, I'd just throw those types of weapons under 'greatsword' or 'sword'. Most shields are typically one-handed aside greatshields.

I'm not sure what this system is going to lead to, but if it's to incorporate more stats, it's certainly curious!

February 14, 2022, 7:57 am by METROID
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Also I assume by 'magical' does this mean elemental components? I'm a bit confused by this, but I assume it has to do more so with staves that do sorcery/magic damage.

February 14, 2022, 7:49 am by METROID
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This id fun! Kinda wish for choosing other, you could write in what you think something is. Like we have a lot of dagger/knife class weapons that function different to a sword. Same with spears. Basically I love the dark Souls vibe of these classifications, but the categories could easily expand to more types to really make sure it is accurate!

February 14, 2022, 7:15 am by Chazezmom
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You should DEFINITELY give us the achievement, "HELP SUBETA WITH SOMETHING IMPORTANT' -- definitely!

February 14, 2022, 6:59 am by Daydream
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I've a question, will this affect how we are allowed to use weapons in the future? I ask this because battling is already so optimized and hard to improve sets even at medium tiers, I cannot imagine what I would do if I couldn't, say, use the Forj Tempered Kusarigama and Replica Minotaur Knocker on the same turn.

February 14, 2022, 6:56 am by Daydream
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ohhh i dont think its even intentional but this is the most fun i've had on subeta in ages, literally raking my brain with philosophical questions like "is a snowball a bomb?", i LOVE it (not sarcasm)

February 14, 2022, 5:16 am by Evil
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Oh - just hit the "Magical" box and move on :p.

February 14, 2022, 4:03 am by Silverfish
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because I forgot these exist:

I'd probably throw small/big crossbows with small/big guns flamethrower, grenade launcher etc: big gun chainsaw: OTHER ....frisbees, chakrams and boomerangs with other non-sword cutting or bludgeoning weapons respectively?

February 14, 2022, 3:46 am by Silverfish
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Okay soooo hard to say what are your intentions guys, but at this point my personal checklist would be something like:

  • is this something you'd hold in your hands to attack (weapon) ___- could it be used with one hand ______- small sword ______- knife/dagger/sickle ______- mace/hammer/nunchuck/morning star/axe etc ______- whip ______- orb ______- gun/slingshot ______- magic wand/staff (half your height or less) ______- OTHER

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  • if it's a set of two it's 2 handed
  • if it kinda looks one handed but it's on a /very/ long chain a la the kusarigama weapon it's probably 2 handed? idk discuss)

___- does it need both hands to use ______- big sword ______- big mace/hammer/morning star/battering ram/axe etc ______- big gun/slingshot/harpoon/catapult etc ______- halberd/polearm/spear/(wizard) staff ______- scythe (inherently 2 handed imo) ______- bow (inherently 2 handed imo) ______- PAIRED SET (see note above) ______- OTHER

  • is this a shield (shield) ___(most are one handed but can keep the 2 handed distinction here for a couple rly massive ones)

  • is this something you'd throw at an opponent (thrown) ___- bomb/potion/grenade/dart/throwing knife/arrow

  • is this primarily on your body and not held (worn) ___- is it armor (helm/shoulders/chest etc) ___- is it an enchanted amulet/ring/trinket

  • is this an animal companion or otherwise really not a weapon (other)

February 14, 2022, 3:20 am by GanondorfDragmiere
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What a nice way to help. Sometimes I forget what I was clicking on when a similar item was asked before, because of the amount of items. laugh But I'm happy to read that a fine-tuning for more categories is a option (and that I'm not the only one who which to have more categories). I don't see a plushie as weapon like (as long as it's not the ). So it would be very helpful in future to think about more categories.

I just wonder how long we have the chance to help on this project? Will it open for 2-4 weeks? Shorter or longer? I would help as much as I can.

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