Stick it to the Man!: Pronoun Stickers

October 7, 2019, 3:36 pm by

These are great, thanks staff! Well done! ? ( Smh at the "Yikes" comment just getting more and more likes overtime -__- That's a yikes, that that many people would agree with that comment... )

October 7, 2019, 3:22 pm by

Guys, keep it civil (this is not the place for debate) and please remember that Subeta is a very inclusive community and hatespeech, discrimination, etc. will not be tolerated here.

October 7, 2019, 2:58 pm by

Lol my attention span is fine? I've just wasted enough of my time today on bigots

October 7, 2019, 2:58 pm by

Oh shit sick burn, the I know you are but what am I defense! Clearly dealing with a master of bigotry.

October 7, 2019, 2:57 pm by

glad you're self aware

October 7, 2019, 2:56 pm by

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

October 7, 2019, 2:51 pm by

I'm not saying someone can or can't be trans. I am saying that someone who has Gender dysphoria is trans. There are processes that do need to be followed so that medical accidents and life long damage are prevented. It is not my problem if your attention span is short and you refuse to read what I wrote.

October 7, 2019, 2:50 pm by

Staff really need to ride herd on posts like this for longer than the first couple of hours.

And also to just ban people who cross the line, because this gets really old really quickly and often it's the same people every damn time.

October 7, 2019, 2:50 pm by

subeta: releases something nice and kind of useful for everyone

a dozen transphobes in a trenchcoat: (rubs hands together) it's my time to shine

October 7, 2019, 2:47 pm by

XD Troll coward.

October 7, 2019, 2:43 pm by

Gross. But thanks for letting me know to block you =]

October 7, 2019, 2:42 pm by

yeah....stopped reading your novel when you started telling me who can and cannot be trans

October 7, 2019, 2:39 pm by

Dance for your masters, you pathetic hypocrite. Dance!

October 7, 2019, 2:37 pm by

Yeah, you don't see multiple raging grammar-related comments on posts like "10 Dogs Who Forgot How To Dog". Somehow all the people who are so very upset about incorrect usage of grammar manage to either laugh like everyone else or simply ignore that content.

October 7, 2019, 2:34 pm by

You have heard of Munchhausen by proxy, right? This might be the point is making in relation to the articles she linked.

Can an adult person be trans... yes. They have gone through the process of puberty and most likely sought medical help. But there is the open debate of de-transitioning, being misdiagnosed with gender dysphoria (cases where a lesbian woman is lesbian with masculine behaviors, not necessarily trans. Cases of rape where a man/woman may feel disgusted with her body, feel weak, etc.), and other issues related to that debate.

She did make an accurate point about mixing hormone blockers/inhibitors and anti-depressants. Anti-depressants are known to make depression symptoms worse. Changes in either female or male hormones will also cause significant mood changes. Case and point, women who go through menopause, women with poly-cystic ovarian syndrome, low testosterone levels in men, etc. Now imagine giving a person both and little data to determine what effects may or may not happen. This is what you might be seeing as suicidality in the trans community, among other factors. And I can't stress this enough it needs to be studied and something done about it, because human beings should not have to suffer like that.

We've never fully studied long-term effects of cross-gender hormone replacement treatments. None of this is transphobic. It is a very real concern that should be studied in extensive lengths, sound fair? No one is denying a trans person's humanity, they are simply asking how will this impact a person with gender dysphoria in the long-term versus the short-term. Are there cases where transitioning is successful, yes. Are there cases where it was not successful and a person is regretting it, also yes.

The other issue. Can a child be trans... maybe. I only say this because data is still being gathered on this particular age group and we also have to factor in a few other things too, namely the parents. Parents who may suffer from their own mental illness may project their deepest desires onto their children. Parents with Munchhausen, narcissistic personality disorder, poor parenting methods or virtue signalling, all have to be considered in these cases. No one wants to deny a person's feelings, but these cases are far more delicate with a variety of sad cases to prove it. This is not transphobic.

Then you have rapid onset gender dysphoria which has been proven with studies. One study was retracted because it wasn't "PC" enough at Brown university, question is why is this trend occurring? And how will this negatively impact people with diagnosed and misdiagnosed gender dysphoria? You also have issues with studies nowadays because all studies must comply with diversity rules. How can you study something specifically about trans persons if you do not have enough people to study from much less different ethnicities and cultural backgrounds. How can you determine what may ail a trans-woman specifically if you have to also include women, men, trans-men and so on. Just a thought, not trying to insult anyone.

Bullying a person for being trans is transphobic, saying they have no right to exist is transphobic. Accidentally misgendering a person is not transphobic unless it is done with malevolent intent, in which case bullying.

Questioning the science that is still out on the whole matter, is not transphobic. And there is the issue of medical care. A trans-woman will never deal with cervical or ovarian cancer, whereas, a trans-male most definitely will have to worry. Is it transphobic to mention these concerns to a trans-woman/ trans-man? People have a hard time accepting any illness or condition. How gender dysphoria is treated by people is no different than how people with borderline personality are treated. Is this right? Most definitely not, but you can't mind control everyone to do as you want them to do. You can only manage yourself and your own reactions to your surroundings, no one can do that for you.

People are allowed opinions, questions and thoughts on any topic so long as their actions are not harming anyone. If a word is causing you harm, you need to seek professional therapy.

Language evolution is great so long as it still retains the meaning, logic, and good context clues. Words adapt new meanings every day, slang being a good example. However, removing gendered words and splitting the meaning of gender and sex can lead to a serious issue of being misunderstood. Some languages are entirely gendered such as Spanish, Italian, French, German, etc. And some do offer a neutral usage. Russian has neutral terms, but this is used for inanimate objects. When you alter how news, media, or any content is written, you change the meaning and it can be good or it can be disastrous.

A good case, is every time a news report is made regarding someone who identifies as non-binary or trans. You will often see confusion in the reporting because of all details related to the case. The case with the teacher in Virginia being fired over a trans student being misgendered is a good example. This has its own impacts that can't and shouldn't be ignored.

October 7, 2019, 2:20 pm by

There are opinions, and there are opinions.

It's a dick move to attack someone over differences of opinion in matters of taste. I personally think that pineapple on pizza is an offence against G-d and nature and I really enjoyed Twilight, but I'm not going to call you a douchebag if you love Hawaiian pizza or think that Twilight is a horrible book.

However, the opinion that some human beings aren't worthy of equality, justice, basic respect and civility is not a matter of taste. It's bigotry, and bigotry should not be socially acceptable.

October 7, 2019, 2:19 pm by

nice ableist insult, bud. Really helps you get your point across.

October 7, 2019, 2:18 pm by

I know, I really don't get it....I'm cis, so while pronouns might not be something I give much of a thought, I understand their importance for those outside the gender binary, and it literally takes nothing to call someone what they want to be called. Bringing up grammar is just laughable, since our society mostly speaks in slangs, made up words, textspeak and memespeak these days. I think you'd find singular they in a dictionary a lot quicker than you'd find "glamping" or "frienemy" lol

October 7, 2019, 2:07 pm by

pride flags this pronouns that WHERE are the top / switch / bottom stickers??

October 7, 2019, 1:55 pm by

I just just thinking, you know those speech bubbles that came out a few years ago? I think it would be great to have pronoun ones.

October 7, 2019, 1:50 pm by

Ah, thanks for reminding me I should put my pronouns into my Subeta bio like I have on my Twitter. :V

October 7, 2019, 1:49 pm by

Imagine jumping through hoops to avoid using pronouns entirely (or trying to), a way that no human being actually speaks in real life (because it's super unnatural to say "a person" or "Bob" in every sentence all the time) just to avoid accidentally respecting another human person.

October 7, 2019, 1:41 pm by

Anyone else suspect that those claiming to be grammar purists/traditionalists just want an excuse not to treat trans/non binary people with respect, and don't care that the way we use language is obviously always evolving in countless ways? I've never seen anyone complaining that the pronoun 'you' used to only be plural, and therefore we should bring back thou/thee for the singular you. Anyone upset that 'literally' now has two entirely contradictory meanings (both in the Oxford dictionary) and you can only guess the meaning from whether you think the context is sarcastic or not? (off topic, but I love the English language) And I'm supposed to believe that one little pronoun change is confusing/difficult even though it's very close to how we've used the singular they for centuries?

But um, whoever the artist is they have done a great job (see what I did there?) and I'm glad that this site is inclusive. Can't believe treating a group of people as human beings is a big ask for a minority on here, but most of ya'll are great. :)

October 7, 2019, 1:19 pm by

Jesis Christ that's lame.

October 7, 2019, 1:09 pm by

oof x0.5 speed

October 7, 2019, 1:07 pm by

You're right - I was blind, clowns are the REAL queens. Honk honk.

October 7, 2019, 1:05 pm by

Using Yikes in a newspost is rude, no matter the context of the newspost, ty. A pet revamp? Using Yikes is rude. A new SBQ line? Using Yikes is rude. New Subetapedia entry. Yikes is rude. Yikes is conotative and symbolises disgust, fear. There isn't anything positive about someone saying Yikes. Especially in that context.

It isn't that hard to understand that pronouns are important to some people. Just because they are not important to you personally doesn't mean they don't matter to someone else.

uh, i identify as a clown, and i'm a little uncomfortable with that association. clowns support all forms of gender and orientation possible, that wig isn't rainbow for no reason.

October 7, 2019, 1:00 pm by

i think the she/her sticker is a little difficult to read (i don't have the best eyes/best visual processing) but overall i think this is just delightful!

October 7, 2019, 12:53 pm by

you forgot your wig, queen

October 7, 2019, 12:46 pm by

Y'all are so feral. ? Thank you for the stickers! I like them.

October 7, 2019, 12:34 pm by

These are great! Would also love to see a wider color selection eventually :)

October 7, 2019, 12:31 pm by

are the transphobes getting angry at this aware that they're on a website that has multiple lgbt characters, one of them canonically having no gender & using they/them pronouns? (shoutout to quentin, we love u)

October 7, 2019, 12:29 pm by

That's an awful lot of words to tell us you're transphobic

October 7, 2019, 12:16 pm by

I unfortunately usually absolve myself from these debates to avoid retribution b/c of my anxiety, and to protect friends of mine from knowing me, lol. I'll just have to face losing anyone that doesn't want to associate w/ me for my willingness to offer some insight that is controversial, but when I saw this, I literally got pissed b/c it's so uneducated.

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You know that only HALF of all trans people (including nonbinary) live to 30? (mostly because either suicide or getting murdered). I wouldn&;t exactly call that the picture of entitlement.

So, let me start with this page that links to a page that has been removed from its original site. Then lead on to this one, which I have read numerous articles from a very WIDE variety of resources about. And then lead into the psychological issues in this one leading up to other studies which show these findings. Then there's the generalized craziness of it all, which doesn't include the numerous small town articles across the world where people in authoritative positions like TEACHERS have been fired for using the wrong pronoun in a gender specific school where trans-KIDS have identified as that schools specific gender and it was a complete accident that the kid was called a he instead of a she, or v.v.

Whether or not any of these new terms - and I use this lightly - are biologically correct and are part of some kind of process of evolution, it is still far from being understood so many doctors in many fields find the best way to go about it is through medicinal purposes (such as hormone inhibitors on top of anti-depressants, which the latter is known to cause worse symptoms in over half of those taking them) which in turn is the REAL cause of the state of mind of individuals undergoing the gender dysphoria phenomenon.

I personally don't care how you want to identify as it doesn't quite affect me or others to the extreme... yet. The random cases of people in positions getting fired are random, isolated and global. What DOES affect others is the end result, which will also affect you, as well. No one is truly informed here, so don't try to shove in another's face what could potentially come back and be shoved in yours, which is always the case when all parties involved aren't properly educated/informed and right now, there's no way of confirming or denying any aspect of it.

Hopefully it's noticed that I don't go w/ "mainstream" media, and I certainly don't use Wiki which is completely 'governed'. Since we don't have a debate section anymore b/c it's not "PC" for people to debate things and there's not enough moderators (real life, c'mon), it will either be deleted or responding comments will be overly moderated. I do truly wish the best for all involved in this ... evolution. ;)

October 7, 2019, 12:14 pm by

looking in here was a big fat mistake but now i get to stuff my blocklist so

anyway i luv these stickers thank u <3

October 7, 2019, 12:14 pm by

I just wanted to say that attacking people for giving their opinion is not okay, as long as they are not being rude about it. I'm all for freedom of speech, but there's no need to be a jerk for no reason; no matter which side of the argument you're on.

Even though I don't know much about pronouns, I'm glad to see people feel more included and safe because of these stickers :) It will definitely be helpful when addressing someone in the forums.

October 7, 2019, 11:57 am by

People talking about the colors of the stickers...and they all look gray to me >.>

October 7, 2019, 11:49 am by

The blue/pink coding is used in several pride flags, such as the trans flag, (but also the demiboy/demigirl flags) so I'm not exactly bothered by she/her being pink and he/his being pink - they're the colors used to represent these genders within the community.

If anything, I think I'm more annoyed by they/them being brown, rather than light gray

October 7, 2019, 10:58 am by

lmao are people getting mad at words in here?

anyway, these are rad, I just wish the colors were more um fun. and maybe more contrast in the design, they are a little hard to read

October 7, 2019, 10:22 am by

It's alright. It's a human thing to react emotionally first, then logically after the emotions calm down.

October 7, 2019, 10:21 am by

Can both sides not be blithering, braying jackasses for once?

October 7, 2019, 9:45 am by

That comment felt too harsh for me to leave it tbh, sorry. I'll change it to 'haters on here can stay mad'. My sensitive self as soon as I posted that was like no son that's not the right path...

October 7, 2019, 9:39 am by